Change I wish the most from 4.0

I really hope they prune the skills in such a way that we don't have useless skills anymore. I like to play black mage and these useless skills bother me so much. A good example of this is freeze. It has too long of a cast time and being ground targeted is only a hinderance, it is an aoe utility skill that has no place in aoe rotation nor is it utilised almost anywhere. Then there are the thunder spells. Change the thunder spells so we actually use them in our rotation. Currently only thunder 1 is used as a filler spell and thunder spells are largely irrelevant.

I am sure there are many more but those are my biggest problems with blm. What is the point of having spells that you never use?

mass pvp?..

i'll never went in ff pvp but in other mmo pvps - mass freeze spells are very handy.
in ragnarok online f.e it's the blm go to skill for entrance def in war of emperium or mob control.

just a thought but like i said i never tried serious pvp in Eorzea :)


Cheers
Yuni

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Originally Posted by Neela

mass pvp?..

i'll never went in ff pvp but in other mmo pvps - mass freeze spells are very handy.
in ragnarok online f.e it's the blm go to skill for entrance def in war of emperium or mob control.

just a thought but like i said i never tried serious pvp in Eorzea :)


Cheers
Yuni

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In my experience it's too hard to hit the freeze without swiftcast, and you also have blizzard 2 which also binds and you mostly want to bind people that are attacking you. Freeze is too hard to use effectively in pvp.

BLM's skills are all useful somewhere, and if you don't do PvP, where freeze becomes absolutely needed, just remove it from your bar and forget about it.

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Originally Posted by Samsta

In my experience it's too hard to hit the freeze without swiftcast, and you also have blizzard 2 which also binds and you mostly want to bind people that are attacking you. Freeze is too hard to use effectively in pvp.

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Because if you keep trying to hardcast it or swiftcast it you are doing it wrong, you should cast it from astral fire III, preferrably with a fire proc waiting, to go back to AF3 asap after freeze.
You probably play BLM wrong in general, thunder I is used as a filler but if you skip thundercloud procs all the time you are literally not using the strongest spell in the game (beats fire IV potency by about 200) and on a side not the strongest attack in the game in general.
All jobs have 2 or 3 skills that are useless in PVE; tri-bind, one ilm punch, leg/foot graze, etc, and become useful in PVP.

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Originally Posted by NoelNoel

BLM's skills are all useful somewhere, and if you don't do PvP, where freeze becomes absolutely needed, just remove it from your bar and forget about it.

Because if you keep trying to hardcast it or swiftcast it you are doing it wrong, you should cast it from astral fire III, preferrably with a fire proc waiting, to go back to AF3 asap after freeze.
You probably play BLM wrong in general, thunder I is used as a filler but if you skip thundercloud procs all the time you are literally not using the strongest spell in the game (beats fire IV potency by about 200) and on a side not the strongest attack in the game in general.
All jobs have 2 or 3 skills that are useless in PVE; tri-bind, one ilm punch, leg/foot graze, etc, and become useful in PVP.

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I am using thundercloud procs, but sometimes they don't proc and the only presence thunder spells have in our rotation is thunder 1 as a filler spell, I just wish they would be represented more like they were in 2.0. When it comes to freeze, yeah, I don't pvp too much so I might be wrong about that, I guess I just wish we would have frost spells in our aoe rotation and freeze would fit that niche perfectly if it were a little different. I just think it's a waste for it to be only useful in pvp.

Bards: The wanderer's Minuet charge up sound ( every time you use a skill ) removed or able to mute that one only ... is driving me nuts :(

More traits, less clutter, skills that replace other skills at certain levels (like, quick knock becoming wide volley at lv50), skills becoming traits, skill pruning, shadow bind becoming useful again, and smaller rotations.

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Originally Posted by MPNZ

More traits, less clutter, skills that replace other skills at certain levels (like, quick knock becoming wide volley at lv50), skills becoming traits, skill pruning, shadow bind becoming useful again, and smaller rotations.

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I don't use wide volly. Quick nock uses less tp for the same potency. Sure you have to be closer to the mobs, but that's never really a problem.

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Originally Posted by bardaboo

I don't use wide volly. Quick nock uses less tp for the same potency. Sure you have to be closer to the mobs, but that's never really a problem.

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Exactly, plus does any bard really ever uses Shadowbind outside of PvP? Migth as well just put this skill as a PvP skill and give use Farshot instead.
Another useless bard skill is Swiftsong, yeah use it in dungeon o/ but you still gonna have to wait for your tank sinceh e lose the song once he gets any mobs aggro. Yeah, use it in the open world area o/ oh wait, jsut take your mount or sprint you'll go way faster.

That's three totally useless PvE skills that should be reworked.

As for me what I'd liek to see in 4.0 is basically a new way to travel, 3.0 gave us flying, I'd love to be able to swim in 4.0, completely underwater content with swimming mounts. Fighting in a way that not only do you have to care about the X and Y axis but also the Z. That would be awesome, but maybe too much to hope for.

Monk: Greased lightning applying a free sprint effect, touch of death and haymaker to be abilities with cooldowns off global, haymaker should also proc when blocking or parrying an attack.

Warrior: berserk and thrill of battle should be cross class abilities.

Paladin: should get cure and stoneskin innately. switch cnj sub for pgl. shield swipe should be a trait that has a chance to deal dmg to attacker on block.

Idk they have the tidus outfit and his main thing was swimming. Odds are looking good imo.

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Originally Posted by Knives

Monk: Greased lightning applying a free sprint effect, touch of death and haymaker to be abilities with cooldowns off global, haymaker should also proc when blocking or parrying an attack.

Warrior: berserk and thrill of battle should be cross class abilities.

Paladin: should get cure and stoneskin innately. switch cnj sub for pgl. shield swipe should be a trait that has a chance to deal dmg to attacker on block.

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idk id much rather have cure replaced with something else for cross class tbh, we got physic as cross class and no healers need cure at all, which are the only jobs to need cnj besides pld, who has clemency now.

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Originally Posted by bardaboo

I don't use wide volly. Quick nock uses less tp for the same potency. Sure you have to be closer to the mobs, but that's never really a problem.

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Can also just combine the two... When over 12y away from the target, the ability slot swaps to Wide Volley, increasing maximum range to 25y and giving it a new animation, but at the cost of 10 additional TP.

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Originally Posted by bardaboo

I don't use wide volly. Quick nock uses less tp for the same potency. Sure you have to be closer to the mobs, but that's never really a problem.

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Heehee, it's completely unused in player rotations in general anyway, and it's really useful when your tank dies and the twenty-something mobs they had start chasing you. And, its animation is really cool too, but it ends up just sitting completely unused in most content. They would just need to rework the skill a bit, so it's acceptable.

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Originally Posted by Slyqc

Exactly, plus does any bard really ever uses Shadowbind outside of PvP? Migth as well just put this skill as a PvP skill and give use Farshot instead.
Another useless bard skill is Swiftsong, yeah use it in dungeon o/ but you still gonna have to wait for your tank sinceh e lose the song once he gets any mobs aggro. Yeah, use it in the open world area o/ oh wait, just take your mount or sprint you'll go way faster.

That's three totally useless PvE skills that should be reworked.

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Totes... With Shadowbind: it was really useful against single enemy units before they seriously nerfed its single target PvE utility. And, swift-song is just irritating because you have to recast it every time you're attacked, and it would be so nice if it was just recasted after the encounter automatically.

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Originally Posted by Knives

Monk: Greased lightning applying a free sprint effect, touch of death and haymaker to be abilities with cooldowns off global, haymaker should also proc when blocking or parrying an attack.

Warrior: berserk and thrill of battle should be cross class abilities.

Paladin: should get cure and stoneskin innately. switch cnj sub for pgl. shield swipe should be a trait that has a chance to deal dmg to attacker on block.

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Those cross classes are ridiculous.. MRD/WAR has both of those because that's their theme, WAR is the huge hp pool/low defensive CD tank, the reactionary self healing tank that does a ton of dps, because lorewise they're akin to raging beasts. Giving that to another tank wouldn't really make sense.
Besides I don't think you understand how insanely overpowered that would be on a paladin, tank-busters wouldn't apply to us anymore if we could get a warriors health pool with our defensive cooldowns

Shield Swipe does do damage on a block though? I've seen shield swipe crit for 1k before for me.

BRD: - WM charge sound, the "hisssss" sound is driving me nuts, get rid of it SE!
- swiftsong? The song that increase move speed, remove it or make it more usefull.
- heavy shot animation look ackward for me, your character just bend his/her back too much

Maybe talent system like typical mmorpg standard? FF14 probably the only mmo where i see in endgame everyone feel look and play the same

Non restricted glamour? I want my BRD to dress in heavy armor =/

I wonder if we ever get "swimming" section? all that apartment/house and the sailorsuit and bikini is wasted without swimming lol , this game remind me of SWTOR where they cant put "swimming" because engine techinal problem.

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Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

Can also just combine the two... When over 12y away from the target, the ability slot swaps to Wide Volley, increasing maximum range to 25y and giving it a new animation, but at the cost of 10 additional TP.

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Yeah. I actually did that after i made my post. I still am against macro usage, but this one is mostly harmless even though it does cast wide volly sometimes when it shouldn't.

Diverse ways to play every job class instead of a cookie cutter ST and AoE rotation.

More then Tomestones and Tokens.

Progressive Gear that doesn't get outdated every other patch.

Interesting and fun content.

A rework of the stat system so it is more then just Attack Power. Make physical and elemental resistances matter.

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Originally Posted by Samsta

I really hope they prune the skills in such a way that we don't have useless skills anymore. I like to play black mage and these useless skills bother me so much. A good example of this is freeze. It has too long of a cast time and being ground targeted is only a hinderance, it is an aoe utility skill that has no place in aoe rotation nor is it utilised almost anywhere. Then there are the thunder spells. Change the thunder spells so we actually use them in our rotation. Currently only thunder 1 is used as a filler spell and thunder spells are largely irrelevant.

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All Freeze needs IMO is a DoT or to be a DoT field, and it will instantly become usable again.

Trying melee class and i could use this function.

When you use a skill that require to be "flank" or "rear", i wish they have a notification or a sign that show you are indeed attacking from flank or rear, maybe a different damage number color? Or a word "rear" or "flank" beside the damage number? Or a sound effect?

I play with average internet speed and with flying numbers off, so when i attack someone from flank, iam not even sure if it really flank or not. A small notice like above could really help a lot