Okay.... {spoilers}

So one of the Padjali managed to seal a non-elemental spirit into...an Allagan drone? and then placed THAT inside an Allagan-style coffer of unusual size?

How? Why?

I read my character's expression as, "Allagans. Why is it always Allagans?"

http://i.imgur.com/V13nPRO.png

I honestly took it to be a pokeball joke, lol. I know precious little about Yo-kai Watch though and it doesn't explain the "ancient stone vessel" aka "allagan treasure chest."

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I honestly took it to be a pokeball joke, lol. I know precious little about Yo-kai Watch though and it doesn't explain the "ancient stone vessel" aka "allagan treasure chest."

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Apparently it is supposed to be an homage to how the protagonist(s) encounter whisper in the games/anime. And the Allagan Drone and Coffer were supposed to reference Gachapon machines (the ball part being what the Pokeballs were base off of). But still between the fact that the Elementals asked for allagan technology to contain a foreign supernatural being and how the Pomanders look in Palace of the Dead, I'm more inclined to think that the Twelveswood might be more influenced by Allag than we thought.

I'm guessing they're just reusing pre-existing assets? But yeah, I did find it odd how they'd use the ADS minion to contain the thing, although I did instantly thought it was a reference to a pokeball.

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But still between the fact that the Elementals asked for allagan technology to contain a foreign supernatural being and how the Pomanders look in Palace of the Dead, I'm more inclined to think that the Twelveswood might be more influenced by Allag than we thought.

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I forget where it was exactly, but there was a decidedly advanced looking... Thing... Somewhere in the Shroud in 1.0, I believe in some inaccessible ruins, that was never explained... I think it was an elevator? Didn't look particularly Allagan from what I recall, but this was 1.0... Allag wasn't much of a thing back then... Chances are it was meant to be Garlean in origin, given their activity in Toto-Rak, and chances are it's just been swept under the rug now anyway... Still, could be the people of Gelmorra had some Allagan technology kicking around, which they promptly discarded when Stockholm Syndrome kicked in and they got all chummy chummy with the Elementals... I mean, their civilization went underground, that is where one expects to find Allagan artifacts...

The old Shroud/Mor Dhona zone would pretty much pop you out right on Crystal Tower, too... So the Shroud is certainly close enough to have more Allagan influences than we've seen thus far... I'm suddenly more and more interested in wtf is going on in West Shroud...

Either way, it's a clear reference/homage to Yo-Kai Watch then. I wouldn't think too hard on it. Let's not forget all the ADS we killed as Spriggans for Easter.

Or do.

Yes, do forget about those. This event, like most seasonal events, is probably about as canon as you make it (and you shouldn't make it very canon at all).

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Either way, it's a clear reference/homage to Yo-Kai Watch then. I wouldn't think too hard on it. Let's not forget all the ADS we killed as Spriggans for Easter.

Or do.

Yes, do forget about those. This event, like most seasonal events, is probably about as canon as you make it (and you shouldn't make it very canon at all).

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Indeed. Throw seasonal events in with the Hildebrand dimension of Eorzea. A lot of them don't really make any sense when you think about it. They're just meant to be a bit of fun.

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I honestly took it to be a pokeball joke, lol. I know precious little about Yo-kai Watch though and it doesn't explain the "ancient stone vessel" aka "allagan treasure chest."

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It's a reference to how the games / anime starts. The protagonist goes into the forest and finds an old gachapon (crank wheel prize) machine, uses it, and said prize ends up being the Yo-Kai Watch. Like here, Whisper comes part and parcel with it.

... I'm too amused at how a Legendary Dork Dark Knight like myself is wandering around, killing things with a cartoon cat at my side so I can get an axe with his likeness on it. I'm such a loser...

Fenral, your Avatar's expression and the caption made me chuckle.

^ because u'r cute/hansome, so much so u could kick a kitten & get away with it? heck if I know I don't question how NPC arn't panicing when a PC player comes riding in on a Garlean Magitech Reaper or Giant Dragon I mean they do when its a "Hostile/enemy" NPC but gods damn i'd semi-panic if I saw Garlean tech runing up to me as a NPC (& almost have a heart attack right before the PC guy dismounts) I mean if their this complaciant its no wonder stuff keeps going wrong right under their noise... damn Adventure's & their use of "Enemy" stuff confusing NPC's everywere.

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^ because u'r cute/hansome, so much so u could kick a kitten & get away with it? heck if I know I don't question how NPC arn't panicing when a PC player comes riding in on a Garlean Magitech Reaper or Giant Dragon I mean they do when its a "Hostile/enemy" NPC but gods damn i'd semi-panic if I saw Garlean tech runing up to me as a NPC (& almost have a heart attack right before the PC guy dismounts) I mean if their this complaciant its no wonder stuff keeps going wrong right under their noise... damn Adventure's & their use of "Enemy" stuff confusing NPC's everywere.

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You o realize that the one we are playing as is a bit of a special case right?

I'm more surprised that our characters fall flat on their bums when the Whisper is freed.

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...I'm more inclined to think that the Twelveswood might be more influenced by Allag than we thought.

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I mean, there is that theory that the forest was planted/seeded in part by Sephirot's followers...or is them...

If you look closely in Azys Lla, you'll see the Allagans had extra large Pokeballs stored on the Alpha Quadrant.

If you had any doubts remaining that ye Olde English as used by this game is not entirely tongue-in-cheek, I believe we have our answer:

http://i.imgur.com/uoakgYR.png

Yeah, I saw somebody else getting that achievement... not quite there myself on account of still trying to finish my i240 Anima Weapon. I'm curious as to whether or not getting all the weapons also gives a unique achievement and with it, a title or mount. Despite the utter insanity of trying to get all the weapons, I might be compelled to do so if that's the case...

Haven't gotten it myself yet, but Reddit has reported the all weapons achievement as coming with a second mount, and being named

"More Inventory Slots, Please."

Apparently the price hikes stop at 15 Legendary medals, except for the last three which cost 30. In case you'd forgotten that Akihiro Hino *ahem* Nohi is the king of the soulless grind, might I direct your attention to Dragon Quest VII-IX, Dark Cloud, White Knight Chronicles, Inazuma Eleven, LBX, Fantasy Life, etc. Of all the things to have as your trademark...

As an added bonus, it even seems the Wandering Minstrel stops by to talk with him now and then. I'll try and get a screencap that doesn't have a bunch of people in the way.

Well I looked it up... and that Whisper-go with Jibanyan riding side-saddle is pretty tempting...

... but while I may be crazy, I'm not that crazy. I already got my Jibanyan axe, I think I'll just get the Furunyan Hovernyan sword (though why I'd ever want to glamour over my GotT I can't fathom) and maybe the Robonyan F-type gun and call it there.

I on the other hand am pretty much that crazy. But then again I at least want to to get all the anima weapons as well

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As an added bonus, it even seems the Wandering Minstrel stops by to talk with him now and then. I'll try and get a screencap that doesn't have a bunch of people in the way.

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Ok, I know the minstrel is Yoshi... those this mean Nohi is the avatar of that factor 5 person from the live letter?

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Ok, I know the minstrel is Yoshi... those this mean Nohi is the avatar of that factor 5 person from the live letter?

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Nohi is an anagram of Hino, so I assume yes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akihiro_Hino

Really shouldv'e been the Jibanyan in Ironworks riding a Whisper-Lion though

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Ok, I know the minstrel is Yoshi... those this mean Nohi is the avatar of that factor 5 person from the live letter?

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preety much, in fact I think his name is Nohi's name with reverse syllables

Well, I don't know much about Japanese... but I do know that it's written in syllables and not individual letters.

So yeah, Nohi is just Hino backwards - basically telling everyone he's the avatar of Level-5's Akihiro Hino.

Most of the Yokai stuff doesn't really bother me that much, but that mount is the most out of place looking thing I've seen to date in this game. Not a fan.

I just got it, and the mount is comical. It's out of place, but what do you expect from a mount designed like a kiddie ride using a cartoon ghost as the basis put into a (sometimes grim) fantasy world?

I love that mount.

After my third frustrating attempt at Final Steps, only to be greeted by that hokey mount, seeing it just nyoom by, my frustration melted. It's hilarious. I need it.

Considering the Golden Saucer exists for these kind of things, the mount seems like a minor jump the shark.

Well, at least thanks to its small size, you feel like you're going fast with the Whisper-go...

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Considering the Golden Saucer exists for these kind of things, the mount seems like a minor jump the shark.

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Fun fact apparently Nohi commissioned Godbert to make the Mounts, specificlay requestiong something as flamboyant as the Saucer's attractions

Interestingly, Noko's description mentions Humans, has the term Humans actually been used in XIV before? It's usually just Hyurans

Nah, "human" is used, albeit sparingly, to describe all of the races as a group, of which Hyur are one.

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Nah, "human" is used, albeit sparingly, to describe all of the races as a group, of which Hyur are one.

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Does use of the shortened form, "Man" count, because I find that term to be used a lot more commonly

"Man" is, of course, used much more often (i.e. "man and dragon"), but there was at least one place where "human" got used instead. Bugger if I can remember where, but it was fairly minor dialogue.

Coulda sworn it was Alka Zolka addressing Surito Carito, but the line seems to have since been changed...

I figured it was just another way to show that the Yo-Kai are obviously not native to Eorzea. After all, Hino Nohi says he's from a "far-off land," as are the Yo-Kai, or somesuch when you first introduce yourself to him...

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As an added bonus, it even seems the Wandering Minstrel stops by to talk with him now and then. I'll try and get a screencap that doesn't have a bunch of people in the way.

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I can confirm that this is true! I almost got a screenshot while getting the Bushinyan Shogunyan weapons, but was fumbling with the HUD and missed my chance... especially disappointing since there weren't many people around owing to my usual play time.

Ah well... I'm sure I'll get another chance, given I've decided to go for the All Weapons achievement with my Guillotine done. Not much else to do.

There's a small, naked Lala in the foreground (welcome to Gilgamesh!), but I got a good one.

http://i.imgur.com/oauZWH4.png

If I ask them nicely, will they plan an event for Inazuma Eleven: Scales of Ares next year? Eorzea needs soccer!

I hope we get a crossover event for the next Resident Evil game. :rolleyes:

On a more serious note, though, I'm just throwing the increasingly silly seasonal events into the same 'bubble' as the Hildibrand stuff. I'm hoping that we never see this sort of thing leak into the MSQ's because I'd hate to see FFXIV go the same way as WoW. A game which once took itself fairly seriously, boasted in-depth lore and then threw a lot of it away for cheap 'humour' and even went so far as to have entire zones driven by pop culture movie references.

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On a more serious note, though, I'm just throwing the increasingly silly seasonal events into the same 'bubble' as the Hildibrand stuff. I'm hoping that we never see this sort of thing leak into the MSQ's because I'd hate to see FFXIV go the same way as WoW. A game which once took itself fairly seriously, boasted in-depth lore and then threw a lot of it away for cheap 'humour' and even went so far as to have entire zones driven by pop culture movie references.

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I don't see that happening (yet). It's pretty obvious the Yo-Kai Watch stuff isn't canon (and is a special limited time event like the Lightning event(s) was - you won't see it happening again).

Also pretty sure this game isn't going to go the way of WoW yet. WoW's problem was, after Vanilla, that it started relying on the RTS games' lore for villains... and after the Lich King, who was the last piece of fallout from the Third War that needed to be dealt with, they had to start going further into the RTS stories. They dug up Deathwing, who was around during the Second War, and had us fight him... then sent us off to fantasy China (they weren't emulating Kung-Fu Panda - the Pandaren were in Warcraft III, albeit as something of a joke) and gave us an unclear and ultimately weak villain who, upon defeat, used time travel to make players refight an alternate version of the First War. Now the most recent expansion is just going to be Burning Crusade all over again... with a different setting and a new class instead of new races.

... all with cheap (and sometimes bad) pop culture references, tired gameplay, a recycled story that will continue to butcher the RTS games' lore, dull characters, and no real dramatic tension.

I am not a fan on Hildibrand's humor, too and I'd hate it if it leaks into the MSQ. Already some of that humor was seen in the NIN's job quest and as well as the CUL one although it might be more a reference to that cooking anime where everyone experience immense "pleasure" when eating good food.

I guess we'll see in 3.4 if/when Yda and Papalymo returns and I can see the devs trying to lighten things up after the events of the whole Dragonsong War.