I don't know how it is for other data centers, but on mine the unranked Feast queue is absolutely horrendous. I've only done Solo so Party queue might be much better.
With the way queues work for the Feast, an unranked player can only be teamed up with Bronze or Silver people and other unranked.
With the season almost ending, I decided I wanted to get my ranking up since I was busy with all manner of other things. I never expected me to constantly have hour long waits+ for just 1 match.
Friends I know that are Bronze get matches in 10 minutes, and here I am still with a 2 hour long queue.
The problem seems to be because of the vast amount of people who have already ranked up. Since Bronze can also be in a bracket of [Bronze, Silver, Gold] and Silver also has [Silver, Gold, Platinum], most of the time they end up in those matches. So other people are constantly in and out of my queue as they get a match for themselves leaving me to wait hours on end.
Something really needs to be done about it I think. Sure now I know as soon as Season starts to get at least Silver ranking ASAP. But the amount of people who might get interested in the Season will need to wait months just to play at a decent rate.
Unranked Feast Queue is Horrendous Late Season
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07-12-2016, 11:29 PMkuma_ausUnranked Feast Queue is Horrendous Late Season
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07-13-2016, 01:52 AMUnstablePersonalityFrom what I've seen of late all pvp ques are bad, except fields of glory atm.Quote:
Originally Posted by kuma_aus
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07-13-2016, 04:25 AMFebrusIncorrect.Quote:
Originally Posted by UnstablePersonality
Feast has been queuing very quickly since last week. Even as a tank, I've been averaging about 3-8 minutes a queue. At the peak of my queues last night, I went on a six match streak of insta-queues. It has been great, and I've seen ranks anywhere between bronze all the way up to platinum.
Kuma has the right of it. The problem is the way in which ranked players are matched together. The majority of Feast players are either silver or gold ranked. Most of the matches I've played tend to have at least 2 gold ranked players on both teams, meaning that bronze and unranked players are locked out. They can play with silvers, but silvers are mostly prioritized to fill in the gaps in gold-platinum level matches; so, the pool of players to fill in slots for un-ranked or bronze matches is quite limited. -
07-13-2016, 04:49 AMNakanishiWe're Aether. Queue is dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Februs
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07-13-2016, 05:04 AMDimitriiAnd you guys are supposed to be the superior NA pvp data center. For shame.Quote:
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P.S only teasing lol. -
07-13-2016, 08:03 AMEorzean_usernameAether here, I gave up on Feast solo queue after Shatter, 1 hour+ queues and still that way when I try with blind hope every few days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Februs
I know you're joking, but is there actually a perceived 'best' NA datacenter for PvP? Most discussions seem even between Aether/Primal, they're just different (different top GCs, habits, etc).Quote:
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07-13-2016, 08:37 AMDimitriiNot really perceived as such in this forum but over on reddit yes Aether is perceived to be the more competitive, serious, and active NA data center, even though the rankings in feast are not reflecting this atm. And yeah JP data centers are also perceived to be superior to the NA data centers with Mana being heralded as the best PVP data center period. Really wish they would merge Primal and Aether data center for PVP purposes to make them more on par with Mana, while at the same time making PVP more active in the NA scene, but given that SE has never seemed to consider the idea it must be too difficult or stressful server wise to implement for them in a technical sense. Anyway the whole Primal/Aether thing is just forum conjecture though and I wouldn't place too much significance into it myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eorzean_username
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07-13-2016, 08:41 AMSashazorThis is because a large sample of the better PVPers do not participate in Solo Queue, since it is absolute cancer. Very few RUM members ever stepped foot in there, same with RareX. Also, top 10 Aether Solo Q ladder is littered with a small handful of win boosters, which I know turned off even more people from participating.Quote:
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07-13-2016, 08:59 AMUnstablePersonalityThis right here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nakanishi
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07-13-2016, 10:13 AMFebrusOut of curiosity, how is win boosting done in a game-mode where the teams are random and party queuing is impossible? (I'm asking honestly)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sashazor
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07-13-2016, 10:18 AMFebrusI see, I see ... Well, that really sucks for you guys them, because it means you're stuck with the absolute worst PvP game-mode EVER conceived, and I can't imagine those queue times are any good either. A very sad state of affairs for you Aetherites.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nakanishi
Has no one tried to revitalized Feast on your server? It only took one forum post here to get all of the Primal PvP'ers who have been itching for a real fight to crawl out of the woodwork. I would have thought something like that would have been even easier on Aether ... If not, then you have my sympathy, because that would mean that you don't really have any PvP at all on your data centre at the moment.
More often than not, I see people talk about specific worlds rather than entire Data Centres. Well known PvP groups, LS's, or specific players tend to get the spotlight, and their world gets a highlight by association. Gilgamesh and Balmung, specifically, were known long time as having well established and proficient PvP groups and players, and you can see their tags pretty commonly in the end results pages of matches. If you actually tally the numbers, though, the overall population is still quite small. SE would do well to consider mergers for the sake of optimized matchmaking.Quote:
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07-13-2016, 10:22 AMNakanishiI don't think anyone wants to, Feast (Solo) queue is just asking to have an aneurysm. Not to mention the win-trading. (Healer duos queuing when healers lacking, waiting for both their queues to pop, then one of them just pretty much afks/plays exceptionally lackluster for the match). Not even gonna talk about 10 stack tanks consistently throwing matches.Quote:
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07-13-2016, 10:41 AMFebrusHoly hell, that's bad. I'm glad to say that I haven't seen such behavior over on Primal since Feast's revival. People throwing matches in solo-queue typically only happened here when Feast was overpopulated with tome hunters, because they were only there for a fast pay out. At the height of the season, there were actually PF's set up for it ... which was awful. Thankfully, I haven't seen much of that since Shatter came out, because the only people queuing now are mostly people who are interested in actually playing the game (tome hunters likely still believe the game mode is dead).Quote:
Originally Posted by Nakanishi
I'm honestly kind of surprised that you guys have had such bad play on Aether, given your PvP reputation. I get that competition brings out the absolute worst in people, but helping someone boost their rank by throwing your own win rate under the bus seems very counter-intuitive to me unless the only reason you're there is for tomes. Given that queue times are crap for you guys, I doubt that would still be the case; so, it really does seem odd that there isn't more fair play going on... -
07-13-2016, 10:54 AMDimitriiOne could actually argue its even easier to win trade there now if queues remain dead, since with no one queuing 8 ppl have a much higher chance of all getting slotted into the same lobby and throwing games as they see fit under the cover of "the black week." Kinda sucks for the fringe players 90 to 100 since its fairly likely the lot of them will indeed get knocked out by win traders. Because of the rank tiers considerations in matchmaking lobbies however I'm not sure how one would be able to win trade all the way up to the top 10 like a previous poster hinted so I'm a little skeptical on that. Platinum players cant play in the same lobby as unranked or bronze. The boosters could only really help you get to low gold I think.Quote:
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07-13-2016, 04:15 PMkuma_aus
A lot of people are saying "queue is dead" on their data center.
The Feast ranked has [Unranked, Bronze, Silver], [Bronze, Silver, Gold], [Silver, Gold, Platinum] and [Gold, Platinum, Diamond] queue brackets. With out you mentioning your rank it's kind of hard to understand if there really is a problem or not with the whole of The Feast or just a bracket problem like I am experiencing. -
07-13-2016, 04:27 PMCleanseAre you sure the top 10 has boosters? Pretty sure they all played a lot and won more than the rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sashazor
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07-13-2016, 06:23 PMFebrusI suppose I can see how that would be the case, but I still find it odd. I have trouble reconciling the concepts of boosting and solo-queue, specifically. I mean, if you're going to go through the trouble of getting 8 players together to try and boost, then why not just use party queue? I get that consecutive wins with the same party reduce your rank points, but you would at least be guaranteeing the party composition and end result. Whereas, in solo-queue it's entirely possible that your 8 players won't even be in the same match. Even if it's only 2 players who are doing this (the booster and the boosted) it's still a roll of the dice that they'll be slotted against one another, let alone in the same match together. A full group of 8 seems even stranger to me, because unless 7 out of the 8 are willing to sacrifice their own rank for the sake of one player it just doesn't make sense to do it this way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dimitrii
That said, I also have trouble understanding the concept of a player who is willing to sacrifice their own rank for the sake of someone else in the first place. The only reason I could even imagine this happening is if the player who is losing doesn't actually care about rank ... but then why play Feast at all? Tomes would be the only reason I could think of for that, but if queue times are dead I don't see that being a valid reason to sign up for this kind of bizarre and unreliable strategy. It's very strange. By comparison, tome farmers who were just exploiting a quick queue and a short instance make more sense. -
07-13-2016, 06:24 PMNakanishiI got Silver friends who queue (fits all relevant brackets) with no pop in sight.Quote:
Originally Posted by kuma_aus
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07-13-2016, 07:42 PMSlib
I got a pop last night on Aether. Team wasn't cooperative, but got a pop. Not bad for the first day this week ;O