http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...read?p=3547688
Hildibrand Season 2 officially begins in 3.2. Prepare for more Gilgamesh, Enkidu, Hildibrand, Nashu, and Angry Briardien.Quote:
Official translation, post #35
Q: Isn’t it about time for some more Hildibrand?
A: Hildi will return in Patch 3.2! As to who brings him back home… well, that’s a surprise!
(Maybe more Godbert.)
Hildibrand Season 2 Official Release in 3.2!
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02-02-2016, 04:21 PMEdwinLiHildibrand Season 2 Official Release in 3.2!
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02-02-2016, 05:11 PMRyuRoots
I hope Briardien stays in Ishgard for the scholasticate and Hildi gets a new sane person to deal with his antics. Super excited for more Hildibrand in any case, though.
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02-02-2016, 05:19 PMYojimzoIf there isn't more Godbert then I will be severely disappointed in SE.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwinLi
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02-02-2016, 05:22 PMSpawnieneed more hildys mom lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Yojimzo
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02-02-2016, 06:19 PMDualbladeOn the one hand its fun to see Briardien have to deal with him, though he did resign himself to just going along with it by the end of it last time...plus a part of me thought the WoL. when asked to be discreet in the investigiation, should have asked whether he's seen Hildy yet. Lot easier to be so without him after all.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyuRoots
On the other hand, I wouldn't mind Hildy and Briardien having their own seperate things...plus that means even MORE content to do! But it'll probably be Hildy in the current one, easier on devs and stuff. -
02-02-2016, 07:59 PMCojika
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02-02-2016, 08:04 PMNalien
Yay, I guess...
I mean, the quests were fun, but at this point I kind of want some more "serious" side quest stuff... Mail Mog needs a season 2, Winebaud's Riddles could provide a great questline, or even better we could get new Grand Company ranks with an actual story attached to them? I'd love something like that. Heck, even the Doman Adventurer's Guild could do with more sidequests... There's a lot of potential side quest material which just isn't getting used, instead we get hilarious face contortions I guess? Looking forward to it regardless, but I'd still rather have seen some of the other side quest potential fulfilled in 3.0 and then had Hildy return for 4.0. Back to back Hildibrand runs the risk of becoming stale, eventually he is going to need a significant break to build anticipation... -
02-02-2016, 08:30 PMTheodric
I'm not a fan. It was fine in moderation but it's going to become very stale rather quickly if we end up not getting any more serious side quests. I'll be bitterly disappointed if he ends up arriving for the Scholasticate quests because they were marketed as being something new and different. Such things are tolerable for me when confined to a specific set of quests. I turned my back on WoW because it stopped taking its lore seriously and sought to make as many quests as possible into pop culture references/jokes. If FFXIV goes down that same route then I suppose I'll take my leave as well. :(
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02-02-2016, 08:38 PMBlackbird1we have waited long enough the people need more hildibrand and his wacky antics and we mustn't forget godbert and his nakedness lol!.If i remember correctly there was a quest involving sherlock holmes hildibrands rival maybe we'll see him paired with hildy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nalien
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02-02-2016, 08:52 PMRyuRootsUh. What exactly do you think the long break between the last Hildibrand patch and this one was? Have no earthly clue what you think "back to back" means in this context unless you somehow consider it and the scholasticate quests the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nalien
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02-02-2016, 08:55 PMTheodricI wouldn't really call it a 'long break'. At least not in terms of raw content. The Scholasticate quests were advertised as a 'more serious' set of side quests only for Hildibrand's influence to show up there as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyuRoots
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02-02-2016, 08:59 PMNalienTwo patches isn't what I'd call a significant break, the Scholasticate quests are either following off into their own thing (please be that) or will be reintroducing him now, so depending on that, I'd potentially count them. Hopefully they remain their own thing though.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyuRoots
We got Hildibrand back to back in 2.0s life cycle, I don't want that to happen again to be honest. I don't want every single patch to bring in some new silly antics, because frankly that's just going to wear his comedy thin too quickly and I'd much rather see the writing team take a break and work on something different for a time. I think if they did that, not only would we get something different in the interim, but when he finally does return it would be fresh again. -
02-03-2016, 12:26 AMAnaviAnael
Who is this Gilgamesh? There is only Greg.
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02-03-2016, 01:59 AMKaitlanKela
To people complaining that Hildibrand is overused and more serious content please:
I respect your opinion; the humor is rather lowest-common denominator. Slapstick, crossdressing, absurdity, etc. It's not very refined.
BUT
1. The main scenario is entirely serious. Like 1% of time you get to make fun of Alphinaud's drawing to pick up girls shtick.
2. Every dungeon/trial introduced has backstory and questline buildup, all serious
3. Raids, Alex and Void Ark, serious questlines
4. Anima questline: serious (well, there is poor gertie and his debt to laugh at)
5. The scholastiche - was a touch humorous with all the /glassesadjust but nowhere near the magnitude of Hildibrand
There's plenty of serious content being developed. This questline is highly popular precisely because it's cheap humor in the hellhole that is post-calamity eorzea. If you don't like it, nobody is forcing you to play it. -
02-03-2016, 02:00 AMKaurie
I hope Scholasticate is not a pre-req. I've tried to do that quest line twice now, but zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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02-03-2016, 02:03 AMKaitlanKelaLast Hildiquest was 2.5, Before the Fall Part I, released in January of 2015; over a year ago.Quote:
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02-03-2016, 02:40 AMNalienOh I'm not saying I don't like it, I actually quite enjoy the quests. I'm just fairly put off by how much effort goes into them at this point, when other side quest content is fairly bare bones. Hildibrand isn't the only light hearted quest series we get, I'd have gladly seen 3.# follow the Doman Adventurer's Guild through some more antics, perhaps with a finale post-credits "He's back!" cut to Hildibrand ready for 4.0, but it doesn't look like we'll be revisiting them any time soon... That would have got me excited for more Hildibrand, instead I'm just kinda worried he is going to become a standard thing. I like cake, but I wouldn't want it every day. When things become standard, they quickly loose their appeal IMO, I mean we get dungeons every patch but the dungeons themselves have long since lost any lasting appeal IMO, the early ones had potential that was never met and promptly abandoned as they had to churn them out each patch. I'd rather not have a similar thing happen to Hildibrand.Quote:
Originally Posted by KaitlanKela
Still two patches. All you've done is remind me how Heavensward has been plagued with delays... Both its initial launch and 3.1, we've not gotten much of anything over the past year outside Heavenswards main scenario...Quote:
Originally Posted by KaitlanKela
Christ, when 3.1 had about 5 minutes of main scenario (an exaggeration, but we all know 3.1s main scenario quests were far shorter than previous ones), what can I possibly expect from side content like Hildibrand? Do I want 5 minutes worth of Hildibrand in 3.2, or would I rather wait and get the same standard of quests (or better) as 2.#? Hopefully whatever issues 3.1 had are behind them at this point though. Hildibrand is coming back and no amount of concern on my half is going to change that, I just hope it was worth bringing him out of glorious flying sword mount retirement. -
02-03-2016, 02:55 AMKaitlanKelaFirstly, expac =/= "patch", it's patch + a lot of other stuff that needed development time, like races and jobs and areas and things that don't normally come in a patch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nalien
Secondly, there were a ton of new things added during that year. Whether or not they are good or if they came out timely is a different issue, but they used development time too. Time that wasn't Hildi.
I think 3.0 + 3.1 was a perfectly long break from hildibrand, considering his popularity. Honestly, shouldn't popularity determine what content gets added anyway? If not that, how would you decide? It's impossible to please everyone all of the time, and there are a LOT of people playing this game. What gets the most interest from the playerbase should get the most attention from the devs.
As far as having him every patch from here on, if it was me I'd do every other patch. I agree that every patch it may lose some of it's novelty and it gives dev hours to some other things. We don't really know what they'll do with it. If they do it every patch like they did before, /shrug. That's their prerogative.
I agree with you that I would rather them do it not at all if they can't do it properly. However, I have hope that, even with limited resources, this will get done properly because of how popular is was in the past and the amount of attention it will get once it's released. 2.x Hildi set the bar pretty high and I would think Yoshi recognizes that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nalien
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02-03-2016, 03:15 AMNalienMy expectation is that we'll get some gags related to the new climate he finds himself in, perhaps a run in with an inquisitor ("Filthy Rats!") and probably a Gentleman of Darkness to mirror the main scenario. That could work, and hopefully it does (or I'm completely wrong and they blow away my expectations), but that's my concern; predictability and nothing really new or fresh to bring to the table. I'll gladly be wrong on this, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by KaitlanKela
Meanwhile, I found the Doman Adventurer's Guild quests to be refreshing enough that I want more, and we've got an entire expansion of new NPCs that could benefit from a Mail Mog style quest series. Just my opinion of course, but right now I'd rather see that, than more Hildibrand. I am happy we're getting more Hildibrand, don't get me wrong, I'm just hesitantly happy, while if they'd announced new Doman Adventurer's Guild quests, I'd have zero hesitation.
That's exactly why I'm voicing these concerns. I don't think it is as simple ask going "Just make whats popular", because that appeals to a niche. Hildibrand fans got Hildibrand, meanwhile people who enjoy riddles got a fairly slapdash job with Winebaud's Riddles and a few oddities in Heavensward. With an MMO of this size I think it's important to cater to multiple tastes, and even when catering to a specific taste, it's important not to overdo it. It's been a year though, so perhaps it's been long enough, I just hope they've got more planned than just Hildibrand at this point. Quite cruel of them to leave the kids quest hanging with a Valefor tease, of all things...Quote:
Originally Posted by KaitlanKela
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02-03-2016, 03:37 AMKaitlanKela
I think we're pretty much saying the same thing. We just both hope it's done well.
And like I said, if they did it every other patch, then they might get to develop/continue some of the other things you mentioned
By definition, popular doesn't appeal to a "niche," though. At the very least it implies a plurality. If a plurality of people would play content, I think it's only fair that that's what gets focused on: economically you've got limited resources. You should try to make the most people happy with the time you have to dedicate to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nalien
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02-03-2016, 03:50 AMKurogaeaNone of the sidequests were "serious" or even felt that way. Only thing that was remotely like that was the Coils which you don't have to do but the story makes it seem so dire.....yet nothing happens if you don't do it. I'm glad their adding hildabrand again. The humor is welcomed in a world filled with monotony, repetitive and cute strike at urgency with every chance it gets. (aka, we can't die, WoL OP for life)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nalien
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02-03-2016, 04:17 AMUnstablePersonality
All the people saying they shouldn't add him back are forgetting you simply don't have to do the quest at all?
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02-03-2016, 04:48 AMTouchandFeel
Yes!!! So much yes!
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02-03-2016, 05:29 AMAoxaviarSome Facts...Some REALLY WISHFUL Thinking as well
It is my hope and great wish that Scholasticate questline remains a solo act from the returning of Hildiabrand personally. I like it and I also like that we get a serious investigation over Hildi's antics.
My really wishful thinking is that we get sent back to Big Bridge and find that its finished and we get new area's to explore while tracking him down to watch Golbert piledrive him again!. I do believe that the Hildi and Giga are permentantly link.
Based on current side storys inside ishgard, the thief isn't hunting Hildi, but playing the Scholasticate questlines, I think the thief has decided who his/her true rival is, and it ain't Hildibrand. -
02-03-2016, 05:35 AMDerio
There is so much yes to this. The scholasticate questline was too serious without any real action. Almost to the point where the investigation got boring and almost a waste of the warrior of light's time. At least in the Hildi series there was comic relief and a band of characters that were enjoyable. Its almost sad that the hildi side quest is the thing I am looking the most forward to in 3.2
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02-03-2016, 05:43 AMLineageRazor
Whether you enjoy it or not, it's pretty clear that the Scholisticate questline is SE's "long-runner" questline for this expansion. The fact that they're so vague about how Hildy is going to be making his return leads me to believe that he's either just going to be a cameo appearance in the Scholisticate questline, or he's going to get a one-and-done quest unrelated to the Scholisticate. I find it quite unlikely that he'll actually get a long-runner in the same vein as his ARR appearance, simply because it would be too much work to be developing two long-runners at once.
It's possible that Hildy may "take over" the Scholisticate questline and transform it into a zany romp, but honestly, if that happens I hope it's not because folks expressed their disapproval of the Scholisticate storyline and SE is switching rails to appeal to the masses. While I'll admit I enjoyed the Hildy story more than I'm enjoying the Scholisticate story, I DO still want to see where it goes, flaws and all... -
02-03-2016, 08:02 AMEdwinLiI doubt he would take over the Scholisticate Side Story completely if he returns there. Most likely if Hildy returns in Scholisticate he may end up as the role Briadien had in Hildibrand Season 1 being mostly a character the story less focus on and to serve as a rival to the Briardien.Quote:
Originally Posted by LineageRazor
Ya he is a idiotic rival but that is what happens when Hildibrand's personality is based on Inspector Clouseau from the Pink Panther series. However, that idiotic personality is part of his charm if not his only one.
If players haven't noticed yet, Hildibrand Season 1 was basically the Final Fantasy version of a Pink Panther episodes.