In an interview with Gamewatch, Yoshi-P responded to a question about the current maps:
GameWatch - Are you getting rid of all the current maps...?
YoshiP - We are scrapping all...
(abbreviated, thanks Reinheart for the translation)
With that noted, there are a lot of locations/objects on the current map I thought were very memorable. So include yours here and maybe the dev team will take care to move them into the new maps if they haven't decided on it already.
One of my favs is from Coerthas Western Highlands, near Twinpools, "The Fury's Gate" if I read the Eorzean script right (someone please correct me):
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/250...1305194799.jpg
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/8...1305194817.jpg
Add yours, and let's make the dev team aware of our fav places!
Get your favorite places included in the new FFXIV
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10-19-2011, 02:45 AMNeptuneGet your favorite places included in the new FFXIV
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10-19-2011, 02:49 AMSeirra_Lanzce
i have in my picture folder hehehehe
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10-19-2011, 02:56 AMAnonymoose
I can't imagine Eorzea without the crashed airship and dead dragon, but I also can't see it surviving a celestial body surface impact on the continent. I just hope that a few of the finer touches are kept. It's not that I want to see anything specific survive, just some of the aesthetic traditions that the peoples of Eorzea hold true.
The fall of Dalamud may take their land, but I hope it doesn't take their culture. However, you know what I miss more than the aesthetic of Eorzea? The aesthetic of:
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Originally Posted by Anonymoose in Another Thread
Aesthetic Styles that the Loss of I Would Lament- Wood, wheelhouses, and stained glass a la Gridania (AG in particular)
- Stone, water, and plant life in one structure a la Ul'dah's central fountain.
- Cave with roots, fountains, and tranquil lighting a la the CNJ guild interior.
I doubt these things will be drained from the world entirely just because specific map elements are being nuked, though. -
10-19-2011, 02:58 AMNeptuneMe either, here's my favorite pic from that. That, I'm assuming, is a no-brainer to port over.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anonymoose
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10-19-2011, 04:51 AMAlerith
I need to put out the possibility that we might not actually get hit with said moon.
We could always find some magical way of stopping it, and the world can still be warped from the magic, the moon being too close, or meteor fragments hurtling towards the surface.
I'm not quite yet willing to acknowledge that the adventurers are going to fail to avert the apocalypse in some way. -
10-19-2011, 05:03 AMMolly_Millions
The tree in the black shroud, you all know the one.
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10-19-2011, 06:08 AMAnonymooseWell, the moon is pretty big. I'm sure a direct, fill-on collision would be a disaster that would leave nothing left of Aldenard to actually CHANGE. If the whole moon hit, it'd have to hit a distant ocean (remember, the umbral eras drown the world?) or be broken up somehow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alerith
The Lore says that Dalamud orbits the Moon, and the moon Orbits the planet (though, the citizens of Eorzea don't know this because they have no concept of space and what planets even are). This contradicts astronomy as a whole, but does link to theories about the earth's creation.
It's possible the Dalamud was never a moon at all, but a meteor whose direction and velocity were just right to get it sucked into the gravity of the planet's orbit. Even our moon doesn't technically orbit the earth, the moon orbits the sun WITH the Earth. If, like our situation on Earth, the center of gravity of the Planet/Moon's orbit of the sun is different than the center of gravity of just the planet, it leaves a little bit of an imbalance. Maybe the meteor captured by the planet/moon has fallen out of the stable orbit.
Between the Garlean Empire, Cid, and the Archon involvement, I'm sure there will be some epic degree of damage control that ultimately prevents the apocalypse but still leaves us with a cataclysm. It's a give and take kind of thing, lol. Regardless, the moon's red (atmospheric scraping, maybe), Cid clearly refers to "meteor..." and everyone's panicking.
Still, though - the EORZEA 2.0 PDF shows the new city states and they look pretty post-apocalyptic. I think we're in for quite a smack. -
10-19-2011, 06:22 AMTsukinoThe big glowy one in the water, or the unassuming one that emits a bunch of light when you touch it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Molly_Millions
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10-19-2011, 07:02 AMDragon
Thanalan - All of it.
Mor Dhana - All of it. -
10-19-2011, 07:05 AMMolly_Millionsthe one that glows when you touch itQuote:
Originally Posted by Tsukino
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10-20-2011, 06:06 PMNeptuneYou are kidding right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragon
pic!Quote:
Originally Posted by Molly_Millions
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10-20-2011, 06:48 PMellohwell
Wow we can attach images!
Is that called Fury's Gate or Fury's Eye? I can't remember, all I remember is waiting for sunset/sunrise for something amazing to happen and it never did! For example, I thought the sun would set behind it creating an aura/god's ray through the hole... but nope!
As for which areas I would like them to keep, well it's hard because I like everything they've made. I love the pale cliffs and rolling fields in La Noscea, so I hope that La Noscea retains it's M.O. when version 2.0 hits. I also like everything about Thanalan (except for how empty it is) so I do hope it retains its sense of self too. I love the trees in Gridania, including the white tree (which is staying according to the images I saw), and also the huge tree (if you know the one I'm talking about).
The wharf besides The Mirror in The Black Shroud is also nice, as well as the lakes in Coerthas.
I like the dungeons in all three regions (thanalan, shroud, La Noscea) even the ones you have to plane-hack to see. The underground, sulfuric lakes in Coerthas are amazing too if you can get to them.
I just like everything. If they can downsize everything but still retain everything and bring it within walking distance, that would be ideal. -
10-20-2011, 06:54 PMTsukinohttp://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...1283796780.jpgQuote:
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10-21-2011, 02:32 AMNeptuneWhoa, that is weird! I heard about lights but that is MIST! What's going on there?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsukino
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10-21-2011, 03:17 AMellohwell
It's called treespark for a reason, I guess.
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10-21-2011, 03:49 AMDragonNo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neptune
Mor Dhana and Thanalan are the only places I even remotely feel attached to. Thanalan is exactly how a SAVANNA (it is NOT a desert, but a savanna) does look (the only thing that should be changed is that Ul'dah should NOT look like such civilized town and instead should be more wild and have no paved roads whatsoever), and Mor Dhana has a realistically different look. If they want to split them up into smaller zones, such as West/East Thanalan which should require traveling through Ul'dah and split Mor Dhana into two smaller zones (Northern Mor Dhana and Southern Mor Dhana), that'd be fine. -
10-21-2011, 04:12 AMAndrien
cant think of a fav location. however i hope they add a jungle like place like the one in the movie Avatar.
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10-21-2011, 04:21 AMAnswa
I was once lucky enough to snag a great pic of the drake/airship in Mor Dhona.
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10-21-2011, 04:47 AMAkoreeThey'l be changing the zones to make them less repetitive and more "alive", this doesn't mean that they'l change how each zone looks entirely. You'l still get your savana but it won't be made up of the same copy/pasted terrain and empty fields.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragon
The zones are currently near-empty wastelands populated with monster groups. In old-school MMOs this was adequate, but I'm fairly certain that the guys at SE talented enough to come up with much better stuff now that they're changing engine. -
10-21-2011, 04:55 AMDragonQuote:
Originally Posted by Akoree
I was replying to someone's response which was "Seriously?" with MY reasons for picking Mor Dhana and Thanalan. (If you want to use the term wasteland, that's what I consider Gridania and the age-old "jungle/forest" scenery used in TBS.) -
10-21-2011, 05:02 AMAkoreeI could see that you were replying to someone, and I've read the post of yours he replied to. But you did state that you wanted Thanalan and Mor Dhona to stay in the new FFXIV. The thread to my understanding is about which part of which zones you wish to still be there after the cataclysm, the fact that you want both zones to remain almost makes it sound like you do not wish them to be redesigned and stay as they are, which to me feel like wastelands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragon
I do agree that Mor Dhona is one of the more good-looking zones in the game (I even made a lore thread about it) but I wouldn't say no to it being changed up a bit in the way its layed out and the monster distribution as well as making it more lively and interactive. The same thing can be said about Thanalan, I kinda like the zone despite it being empty, it has a certain calm vibe to it that I like in certain areas and the western side next to the see is fairly good-looking.
You're totally in right to like them as they are btw ;)
I just hope they change for the better after the cataclysm. -
10-21-2011, 05:11 AMZantetsuken
From what I've seen of the new maps, there is nothing that we have now that is worth porting.
Just take SS and movies of things as they are now, because what is coming is beyond awesome and there is no going back.
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10-21-2011, 05:48 AMNeptuneI'm wondering too if you fully realize why I posted this thread. I'll try to explain. The entire zones, mor dhona and Thanalan, are being completely scrapped, and it's impossible for them to be recreated in the new game engine. What they are going to do is rebuild those 2 zones from scratch and reuse the textures. So the look and feel that you said you liked will carry over to the new game automatically. The question at hand is if there's a specific place or rock, tree, bush, etc that you feel should be ported into the new engine. If so you should post about it because otherwise it's going in the trash can. Lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragon
Good point about Ul'Dah being more of a desert town. It seems rather unbelievable that in the middle of the desert with no apparent water source, is this huge city with all this "trade" around it. Who cares about the desert enough to want to trade there? I would find a true dirt floor city to be more believable. -
10-21-2011, 05:49 AMSeirra_Lanzce
is it wrong for me to say that i love The Black Shroud as it is?
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10-21-2011, 05:50 AMNeptuneInhuman. lol.Quote:
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The Black Shroud makes me want to throw up, but it's also my hometown. I love the feel of it, but the copy/pasted terrain is insanely taxing on the mind! -
10-21-2011, 05:52 AMSeirra_LanzceBut Nep dear, i just love the maze and copy/pasta, this is really from the bottom of my heart! I just love the maze!Quote:
Originally Posted by Neptune
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10-21-2011, 06:01 AMNeptune*Says a prayer to the Twelve for Seirra Lanzce* lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce
I think it should be an actual forest.. like the Ronfaure but better. I hope it keeps the same mood but allows you go walk in all directions. Right now it's some kind of weird iron forest. I just hate how you see the same thing no matter where you go. In Thanalan or La Noscea, I have the illusion of being different places. But in the Shroud, it feels more superficial somehow. You know you're just crossing through Tunnel A1 or Pass 2B, there's no suspension of disbelief at all.
Until you get to the Galmorre ruins.
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10-21-2011, 06:04 AMSeirra_Lanzceisn't that what Maze suppose to look like? the same scenery over and over again xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Neptune
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10-21-2011, 06:06 AMNeptuneWell, isn't a real maze more symmetrical? If it looked EXACTLY the same everywhere I would greatly prefer that to the small amounts of variation that are repeated everywhere. In a real maze that's man made you would get a much greater sense of mystery! And a real maze nature-made would be not copy-pasted! Give me either one. Anything but what we have now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce
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10-21-2011, 06:07 AMSeirra_LanzcexD Don't worry Nep, i'm still digging the 2.0 Black Shroud :) Can't wait to make a new adventure there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neptune
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10-21-2011, 06:08 AMNeptuneThat one screenshotish looking blurb looks really nice, with the crack in the ground.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce