HOW TO GET YOUR REPLICA ZETA

Seeing a lot of posts about Drake not having options to buy a zeta replica.

There is a quest you must accept from Jhalzan after obtaining your relic which requires you to talk to Gerolt.

This is "The vital title" and allows you to purchase Replicas for all stages of your relic weapon.

Your relic must be equipped to receive the quest, unlike previous others. Since the weapon is mostly useless for most of us as well, you may overlook the quest as I did.

OH MY GOD, I'm so glad i didn't rush to do the new relic and made sure to look around first. I can't imagine how many people are going to not do this first before trading their relic. SE is gonna have alot of angry relic holders cause of this.

Edit: Funny thing is I sat there for 10 minutes trying to figure out why I couldn't complete the quest only to remember my zeta was glamored and not equiped.

Glad I have to work and didn't rush to start this. I would have been so pissed

I know eh.

You could get a replica zodiac before so I was looking into it before the patch to see if there was a zeta and it took me literally an hour to find the information hidden in the recesses of reddit.

Frankly they either needed to:

1) Put that this quest was a requirement to purchasing replicas, both in the patch notes and in game

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2) ALSO accept the item achievement for obtaining a Zeta (which gives you the "Z" title) - this seems more sensible, I mean you can't get this achievement without a Zeta!! I hope it was just overlooked.

Because doing the Vital Title quest was NOT REQUIRED for obtaining your Zeta.

I really hope we can get an official response.

Nevermind...

And i did not know and did not do the quest... and now i can not get my replica zeta...

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Originally Posted by seida

Frankly they either needed to:

1) Put that this quest was a requirement to purchasing replicas, both in the patch notes and in game

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2) ALSO accept the item achievement for obtaining a Zeta (which gives you the "Z" title) - this seems more sensible, I mean you can't get this achievement without a Zeta!! I hope it was just overlooked.

Because doing the Vital Title quest was NOT REQUIRED for obtaining your Zeta.

I really hope we can get an official response.

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Isn't the quest required to get the title?

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Originally Posted by Felis

Isn't the quest required to get the title?

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Nope! You get the "Z" title when you get your Zeta (the quest before "The Vital Title")

The quest required for buying the replica was an extra, unnecessary quest that appeared AFTER you obtained your zeta. I know in my case, and many others', if you had more than one job to 50 he always had a red quest marker, so I didn't notice he had a new quest related to the Zeta. It didn't do anything except unlock an extra achievement, as far as I can tell.

I do not recall said Quest. I purchased replicas from his assistant yesterday

wth, so now my Zeta is gone or what T_T
Wouldn't it be hard so to tell us how we can purchase a replica (and that we need the original with us) in the same window when they asked us if we REALLY want to trade the Zeta?? *whine*
Honestly the Title should be enough - I can imagine a LOT of ppl traded theirs in thinking they could get the replica without it

EDIT: I googled a bit and found this screenshot
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ng_dirt_cheap/
went to Drake and yay all relic stages are there, just got my Zeta for 90 Gil lol

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Originally Posted by seida

Frankly they either needed to:

1) Put that this quest was a requirement to purchasing replicas, both in the patch notes and in game

or

2) ALSO accept the item achievement for obtaining a Zeta (which gives you the "Z" title) - this seems more sensible, I mean you can't get this achievement without a Zeta!! I hope it was just overlooked.

Because doing the Vital Title quest was NOT REQUIRED for obtaining your Zeta.

I really hope we can get an official response.

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You got one yesterday.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...32#post3482932

I have a question, so if I finish my BLM Lilith Rod Zeta, can I buy the replicas of ONLY the stardust rods (and all stages towards Lilith Zeta) and NOT any other relic weapons from other classes?

If so, this really suck because no one is going to spend an entire week to do the whole thing again (Thats how long I spent)and waste another 1 mil+ gil, 80k or so GC seals and not to mention 3750 Allied seals for the Alexandrites.

This is BS beyond BS. I think you should be able to buy the replicas for ALL classes once you get your first Zeta because they are only good for glamour anyway.

If SE thinks that people should do the relic quests for all classes to get their Zeta replicas, then how letting the developers do what they expect people to do, starting from 0 gil, GC seals and Allied seals?

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Originally Posted by Xorianne

I have a question, so if I finish my BLM Lilith Rod Zeta, can I buy the replicas of ONLY the stardust rods (and all stages towards Lilith Zeta) and NOT any other relic weapons from other classes?

If so, this really suck because no one is going to spend an entire week to do the whole thing again (Thats how long I spent)and waste another 1 mil+ gil, 80k or so GC seals and not to mention 3750 Allied seals for the Alexandrites.

This is BS beyond BS. I think you should be able to buy the replicas for ALL classes once you get your first Zeta because they are only good for glamour anyway.

If SE thinks that people should do the relic quests for all classes to get their Zeta replicas, then how letting the developers do what they expect people to do, starting from 0 gil, GC seals and Allied seals?

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That's correct, you have to do the whole quest line again, if you are planning weapons for other jobs. Zeta's can be turned in for the first step of the new lvl 60 relics and therefore it makes sense to keep them locked to specific jobs and not unlock them all at once after finishing one. Old ARR relics have been nerfed to the ground, it took us over 8+ months (36mil of gil, thousands of tomes & weekly missions) to get an zeta as it was new, and even than we needed to do it for every single job if we wanted the relic. There's no problem at all with that, you can nowadays finish an old relic within a couple of days and no effort.

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Originally Posted by LunaFaye

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So why didn't they make it that zeta replicas COULDN'T be turned in for the new relics? And allow you to unlock all zeta replicas that way.

Oh and if you want the sense of work to remain, make every relic require 100'000'000x the amount of resources required currently, as well as a 500 billion gil downpayment made to Gerolt per Zeta. Also, anyone who currently has a relic that ISN'T a Zeta or i80, it automatically destroys it and makes them start all over again. So then you'd need to start with 300m thav mists for the Zenith phase of your frist relic.

I disagree with you on the point that it takes a couple of days to finish an old relic ( I am assuming zenith to zeta). It DOES NOT takes a couple of days. It needs 1 mil+ gil (Which if u are wealthy, it shouldn't be a problem, but if not, well, good luck getting the gil you need), 80k+ GCseals for the Bombard Cores (this means several weeks of expert deliveries, grinding fates, and leves), 2000-3000 poetic tomestones (which you will get from dungeon grind anyway, so not a big deal), 100+ dungeons grinds including those you cannot solo(so if you are dps, good luck waiting for the 20-30 mins queue to do one of the required dungeon and guess what, there are about 25-30 dungeons you cannot solo because the adds and boss are too strong and your fc mates are too selfish to help you with any of them anyway) and last but not least, 3750 Allied seals ( in the other words, hunt until your eyes bleed). Oh did I mention you need at least 3 x 9 leves allowance just for Atma to Animus too?

I understand how it has been nerf down and all but if anything, these weapons are only good for glamour and nothing more nowadays. You got to Zeta, experienced the content and do what needs to be done. So what is the point of having people grinding the same thing over and over and over again anyway?

There is hard and there is ridiculous. This... is simply ridiculous and BS.

/shrug Longevity of the game when it was relevant ?

I don't agree that you should get all the replicas after you complete 1 relic though.

But anyway, you can use edit to bypass the text limit in the post.

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Originally Posted by LunaFaye

you can nowadays finish an old relic within a couple of days and no effort.

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No you can't unless your required job is 60 to do the dungeon content unsynced. Even then, it is still a grind and I'm guessing that running the 50 dungeons unsynced will actually still be slower for a solo Lv 60 rather than running it synced @50 with others who will get you in and out of those dungeons in 15 minutes or less. If you're DPS, you might be better of running it unsynced due to queue times.

Those damn books too:
90 enemies
27 dungeons
27 FATEs (Many of which are on a 1 hour respawn time, and also NPC initiated which can be longer)
27 Leves (assuming you don't have to do additional to get the one you need to pop)

Even this alone in two days is serious time put in, and wouldn't plan for much outside FFXIV.

I am smack dab in the middle of getting my first Zeta. I know it isn't anything like it used to be before 3.0, but you still need a crap load of gil, GC seals, and well more than the 2000 capped poetics to get this thing done. You still have to gather light, which is not a fast process unless you love raids and EX primals, and you're going to be running more dungeons for a chance at the items needed for the Zodiac Braves step in the upgrade. Unless this drop rate has been increased to 100%?

If you can get it done in two days and retain your patience, I will gracefully bow and call you M'lord.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

and you're going to be running more dungeons for a chance at the items needed for the Zodiac Braves step in the upgrade. Unless this drop rate has been increased to 100%?

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Jup, it has been - doesnt help the fact that its still a huge grind, but at least you dont have to run AV 40+ times anymore... and yes, I've met a poor soul like that

In response to the OP, and to others who have put the time into getting their Zeta: Nothing can take this away from you, and unlike me, you got to experience your Zeta while it was the most powerful weapon in the game. I have so much admiration and envy for you guys.

I am doing the questline because it is interesting, and because I want at least a taste of what you guys went through, even if the grind has been nerfed. Doing the Animus upgrade which I believe has not been changed was without question the hardest part for me thus far. You couldn't get me in three dungeons a week, and I was doing three dungeons a night; I even soloed Aurum Vale @ iLv123 to test my solo ability, and because I have this OCD thing with avoiding exp points. It really pushed my anxiety limits to the test as a healer, and I took two nights away from the game to regather myself after the books were finished.

You can get a replica, sure. But all it says is I got this cool glowy weapon in the easiest manner possible. You examine someone and see that their Zeta version is not a replica, you KNOW they wen't through some shit, and a lot of it. As far as becoming obsolete so quickly being only iLv135; it's all about perspective. And from my perspective, I like to think that my Zeta continues to consume energy. It eats every codex proceeding it under the guise of a glamour! :p

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Originally Posted by Vidu

Jup, it has been - doesnt help the fact that its still a huge grind, but at least you dont have to run AV 40+ times anymore... and yes, I've met a poor soul like that

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Ohhh that poor, poor soul! It's ridiculous to run a dungeon that many times even if a blind monkey with downs could do it easily. But AV before it could be plowed? Just something not right about that. SE should give him/her an exclusive flying Marlboro mount!

Anywho, good news to hear that the drops on those items are 100%. I don't mind multiple runs, I just don't want all the exp from them. Dungeons like Brayflox HM and The Lost City of Amdapor I could run no matter how many times SE shoves them down my throat. I LOVE those instances!

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You can get a replica, sure. But all it says is I got this cool glowy weapon in the easiest manner possible. You examine someone and see that their Zeta version is not a replica, you KNOW they wen't through some shit, and a lot of it.

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You can't actually get a replica unless you've gotten the real thing, though...

About two months ago I decided that I wanted the sch arr relic so I did the whole thing, and from start to finish it took about 2-3 weeks. However, this was when I was level 60, had loads of free time, already had some tomes and gc seals, was able to craft everything myself, and had the gil to buy everything else that I needed.

Most of the steps only took a couple days. The worst part, by far, is still the waiting on fates for the animus step (believe it or not, this step has been nerfed too. It used to be 100 enemies per book, I think). My tip for the light farming is soloing Ifrit nm, since no one does light farming parties anymore. He gives very little light, but you don't need a party and can kill him in about 20 seconds.

It has been significantly nerfed, yes. I'm sure there are people who can get it done much faster, but for those who actually have lives outside of the game, it will still take some time, effort, and resources.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

You can't actually get a replica unless you've gotten the real thing, though...

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Oh, I misunderstood then, I think. I know you have to get it the first go, but I was under the impression you can just get replicas for other jobs if you have got a least one Zeta?

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Originally Posted by Gemina

Oh, I misunderstood then, I think. I know you have to get it the first go, but I was under the impression you can just get replicas for other jobs if you have got a least one Zeta?

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Only finished weapons get replicated. Gerold don't replicate weapons he have not created yet.

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Oh, I misunderstood then, I think. I know you have to get it the first go, but I was under the impression you can just get replicas for other jobs if you have got a least one Zeta?

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Nope. If you want any replica of any job's 2.x relic stages, you must have gotten its zeta and either 1) bring it with you to the dude in North Shroud, or 2) trade it in for the 3.x anima step, which will cause the game to "remember" that you had it and unlocks replica purchase for that weapon without having to carry it with you anymore (since you will no longer have it)

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

Nope. If you want any replica of any job's 2.x relic stages, you must have gotten its zeta and either 1) bring it with you to the dude in North Shroud, or 2) trade it in for the 3.x anima step, which will cause the game to "remember" that you had it and unlocks replica purchase for that weapon without having to carry it with you anymore (since you will no longer have it)

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Ok gotcha. So it works a bit like a calamity salvage NPC. That makes more sense than what I was thinking lol.

When did SE add necromancers to the game?

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Originally Posted by Gemina

Ohhh that poor, poor soul! It's ridiculous to run a dungeon that many times even if a blind monkey with downs could do it easily. But AV before it could be plowed? Just something not right about that. SE should give him/her an exclusive flying Marlboro mount!

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No need to get so hostile... That was back in the days when it was current content and it sucked extremly to have a dungeon like AV that synchs you down (remember there were times when unsyched wasnt a thing) and get stuck on it and at the same time watch all your friends get their drops and move on to other dungeons because they dont want to run that place for the 6th time in one day... so yes, that poor soul

Anyone else think that replica weapons should be storable in the Armoire?

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Anyone else think that replica weapons should be storable in the Armoire?

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It probably won't happen, because they're cheaply bought. A lot of stuff that you can get from the salvager/recompense NPCs isn't put on the armoire either for that reason

I don't change weaponry frequently enough to want to bother keeping replicas around (and I certainly don't have that kind of space), I just make a trip to North Shroud every time I need one.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

It probably won't happen, because they're cheaply bought. A lot of stuff that you can get from the salvager/recompense NPCs isn't put on the armoire either for that reason

I don't change weaponry frequently enough to want to bother keeping replicas around (and I certainly don't have that kind of space), I just make a trip to North Shroud every time I need one.

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The only reason I brought it up is because yes they are cheap, but they REQUIRE you to have your actual relic on you to buy them. And since the HW relic has to option to trade in your completed Zeta, replicas are no longer available to you from that point.

Apologies for the necro, but I've been off the forums for a bit and decided to reply now that I'm back.

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Originally Posted by Reptiletc

they REQUIRE you to have your actual relic on you to buy them. And since the HW relic has to option to trade in your completed Zeta, replicas are no longer available to you from that point.

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I heard about that problem coming up initially, when the first stage of the HW relic came out, but I thought they'd fixed that.
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Originally Posted by Niwashi

I heard about that problem coming up initially, when the first stage of the HW relic came out, but I thought they'd fixed that.
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They did long ago, you can just buy whatever weapon you desire after you got it and finished that last quest. Having the weapon or a replica on you is not required.

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Originally Posted by Reptiletc

The only reason I brought it up is because yes they are cheap, but they REQUIRE you to have your actual relic on you to buy them. And since the HW relic has to option to trade in your completed Zeta, replicas are no longer available to you from that point.

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You need to have the zeta on you or trade it in for the HW crystals in order to purchase the replicas. Trading in is better option imo (free 1 inventory slot + convenience of not having to dig it out when you wish to go to north shroud to purchase any previous stage replica) unless you have any emotional attachment to the zeta.

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Originally Posted by Vidu

Having the weapon or a replica on you is not required.

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I have been trying to buy a replica of my BLM zeta weapon but when I talk to Drake he says:

Forgive me, but I'm afraid I cannot do anything without a true Zodiac Weapon Zeta upon which to base my replica. Could you bring one to me?

Well, no. I traded mine in!
I used to be able to purchase the replicas, in my Armoury Chest I have Replica Sasuke's Blades! I did both BLM and NIN relics to zeta.
When I check my journal I have completed the quest "The Vital Title".

Any ideas?

...So you mean that I need to do ALL the quest that take long hours when I just want my Zenith back because âtma is not shiny and uglier...?

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Originally Posted by AlbynnS

...So you mean that I need to do ALL the quest that take long hours when I just want my Zenith back because âtma is not shiny and uglier...?

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Or you can just get a new Zenith. You can buy the ilvl 80 relic at the calamity salvager and upgrade it again.