Dear SE can we have more gear options or more dungeons to hit the ilvl 170 mark please.
I feel there is just too big of a gap between the dungeon levels.
the research facility is ilvl 142 then we have ilvl 145 for Neverreap and The Fractal Continuum. not too bad a jump there.....then we jump all the way to lvl 170 for the 2 new dungeons
come on now why is there such a huge leap....it's very discouraging to some of us(I'm speaking of several people I have come across ingame and a couple of my friends in rl)
please note, this is a request not a demand and these are my opinions and I do not claim to speak for everyone. since this is a forum however I thought I would see if others felt like I do.
please do not respond as a naysayer and give no good reason why you feel that way.
Dear SE can we have...
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11-23-2015, 05:27 PMWildspriteDear SE can we have...
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11-23-2015, 07:46 PMAlexftwQuote:
Originally Posted by Wildsprite
Actually at i170 you have alexander normal aswell(which is pretty much the same as a dungeon with just a boss) so replace it with 3 new dungeons.
Tbh the 2 new dungeons are easy but probably hard with i150 gear. Part of that lvl gap is so that people get to practice their rotations when they reach lvl 60 ^^.. -
11-23-2015, 07:49 PMSargentToughiewell the OP is talking about ways to *get to* i170, which I totally agree with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexftw
When you first hit level 60, grinding for law until you can start affording blue gear is an absolute disaster. Could you imagine being a fresh 60 tank? You'd be... What? i140 with your level 59 weapon against a bunch of i200-210 DPS. If they do their job even remotely well, you might as well have not even shown up for work.
@OP: Much as I hate to suggest them since the system itself is fucked and needs to be re-tooled... You could always join a hunt party, I guess? -
11-23-2015, 07:50 PMUltima
Sorry, Yoshida and team in the past have proven they only care for current players, anyone currently trying to gear up are not important and must subject themselves to grinding the easy dungeons while also hunting with the most toxic members of the community this side of the planet. :^)
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11-23-2015, 07:52 PMCyrilLucifer
Next patch should be uncapping Esos (and possibly removing Law entirely), so getting to 200 shouldn't be hard then.
Of course, that doesn't help you now. I understand your frustration. -
11-23-2015, 07:54 PMWellFooled
May I ask, what about this gap in particular is discouraging to you? My sister recently (starting at 3.1, when she learned she needed to be Ilevel 179 for diadem) went from Ilevel 142 to 175. She accomplished this in a couple of weeks running roughly a dungeon a day. On paper a 25 Ilevel gap might seem daunting, but I think in practice it isn't. Patch 3.1 also provided extra law tome stones from neverreap/fractal and also added craftable Ilevel 185 gear as an option. I feel like things are paced well enough as it is, even for newer level 60 players.
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11-23-2015, 07:55 PMPenceExcept that the required Law tomes to buy i170 gear was halved, and they previously added i180 upgrade items to Law vendors. Feels like they care a little bit to me. The i180 gear is pretty cheap also, 200k for a body on Tonberry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultima
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11-23-2015, 07:59 PMSargentToughie
Actually, I just thought of something.
One idea that they could work with involves taking a note out of their own book. Right now the 2.0 level 50 job quests give you the i90 AFZ gear for completion, so... What if the level 60 job quests did the same? They could issue out free versions of the most recently 'outdated' gear set. For 3.1, that would mean one full set of i170 unupgraded Doman gear plus the weapon for every fresh 60.
And then they can just update the rewards through the patches, as gear is made irrelevant by the most cutting edge content. -
11-23-2015, 08:15 PMViduI believe one reason they gave you that full Af2-set is because its not easly availbel anymore (you can exchange the tokens, but you cant buy it). Giving away that ilvl180 that shortly after we farmed it feels wrong... I'm not saying "Everyone gotta work for it as hard as I did!" I'm more concerned that it will take away the feeling of making progress, gearwise. I dont know about you but I actually like switching a piece of old gear for something better... I could only imagine giving you tokens for ONE set of your choice after you finished the main quest - that way you could gear up your main but would still have to progress on your alt characters.Quote:
Originally Posted by SargentToughie
Also, for me gear is always an indicator for expierence... if I see someone in Fractal with full 180 I would assume they know the dungeon/endgame/their class kinda well... -
11-23-2015, 08:19 PMPenceThe game already suffers from a severe lack of content, it's probably not the best solution to completely destroy content this early.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vidu
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11-23-2015, 09:55 PMWildspriteperhaps you misunderstood me, I'm not asking for handouts. I just feel like there should be less of a gap there, to me a logical step would have been a couple ilvl55 or ilvl160 dungeons in there or maybe even 1 of eachQuote:
Originally Posted by SargentToughie
personally swapping out gear to me feels less like progress and more of a grind "what I just got this gear now I gotta swap out for something else to enter the next dungeon? ~grumbles~"Quote:
Originally Posted by Vidu
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11-23-2015, 10:06 PMArtemiz
Must admit I can see the OP's point, I'm a returning player and I've just hit the glass ceiling that is level 60. I'm not too sure it's a big problem though, my real frustration is that Nevereap is such a horrid dungeon to play and as a BLM I'm avoiding it, I don't think it's that difficult but that last boss is my idea of BLM hell, especially with the new tighter rotation I'm trying to learn. It will take me a while to earn enough Law tomes to get into the new expert dungeons but that's the way it is I guess. Would be nice to have some ilvl 160ish dungeons to play but in the meantime I'll just do Fractal a few dozen times and low level roulettes....yay.
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11-23-2015, 10:15 PMWellFooledI think it would be difficult to justify spending the resources on new dungeons that would already be out dated for most players and would become outdated for new level 60 players in the matter of a week or two.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wildsprite
If gearing up now makes you feel like you're replacing gear too quickly, wouldn't your suggestion of adding more steps to the gearing ladder just make that feeling worse?Quote:
personally swapping out gear to me feels less like progress and more of a grind "what I just got this gear now I gotta swap out for something else to enter the next dungeon? ~grumbles~"
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11-23-2015, 10:31 PMWildspriteI think you misunderstand. it feels like too much effort to grind all those tomes and notes just to have to replace that gear to move on to higher content. I don't want the eso tome gear other than weapons and accessories due to limited space and the eso grind is a big load of garbage, so little tomes for the effort. I realise they need us to work with the existing content till they add more but for crying outloud the tome grind gets old fast. then there is the thing about liking the content enough to feel the grind is worth it to get that gear......:/Quote:
Originally Posted by WellFooled
I should mention I'm sick a lot so it takes extra effort for me to do a lot of things a lot of the time. not that any of you care -
11-23-2015, 10:50 PMWellFooledI can understand, the vertical progression in the game sometimes goes a little too quick for my liking. It does seem like we replace gear that we slaved on too quickly sometimes, but eso gear has had much more lasting power, but you also seem frustrated with it. You don't seem to want gear too quickly, but you also don't approve of the gear that requires more time to obtain. I'm just a little confused what you want and how you think that Ilevel 155 dungeons will get it for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wildsprite
I do care. I'm very sorry to hear about your health and I wish you all the best in getting well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wildsprite
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11-23-2015, 11:42 PMWildspritemy thing is this with gear, step over gear being replaced quickly is fine if we dont have to work our butts off for it....but to me tome gear should last a lot longer than it does...Quote:
Originally Posted by WellFooled
I mean come on to have to get all of the law gear and upgrade it to be able to enter ilvl 170 dungeons feels ridiculous to me, I feel like it should last a lot longer than it does. to have said gear be dungeon drops without the need to upgrade would be nice.
Also the eso gear I would be happier with if they gave us better storage for it...like letting us put the fully upgraded stuff in the armoire would be nice.
for some reason going back over my posts I feel like this one contradicts past posts...sorry about that
thanks I appreciate it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by WellFooled