Titan EX Still ruining Lives somehow.... Silly rant

So I have gotten on the pony band wagon again after the great disappointment that was farming for them before unsynced was a thing. XD

For the most part, farming has been a breeze while unsynced. (Garuda ex with all tanks and a DPS is hilarious)

But Titan.....Oh Titan...... Still shaving off years of peoples lives I see....

Honestly, the fight isn't all that bad even synced now, with the Ilvls we have available, but you would think that running it unsynced, getting that pony would be all too easy. Well Apparently, you thought wrong.

There are two scenarios I have run into with this. 1: The party lined up just can't get on the same page and we end up disbanding because we can't even get a clear OR 2: The team is amazing and we are clearing Titan every 5 minutes (give or take) and the bugger won't drop his dang pony!

Sadly, the first of the two issues is still the more prevalent one. Usually if there isn't a clear after the second attempt, people leave, regardless of any progression. I can't say I blame them. I have been farming this bugger for quite a while with no success on a pony drop and on the one time it did drop during the amazing party runs, I rolled a ONE on it. Like SERIOUSLY?! A one........ I didn't even stand a chance. XD (Guess it isn't much worse than getting one less than the person who got it though :P) So I wouldn't want to waste time in a "bad" Party either.

Oh Titan, when will you learn that I care not for your earrings and your fancy jewelry, all I want is for you to poop out a horse!

In someway it just shows how some people do not deserve the unsynced pony's. I get unsynced for progression for newer people. But pony's and stuff it feels kinda cheap since myself and alot of other people did it the hard way. But that happens with older content it gets easier i suppose:)
May i add, titan cost me over 100+ wins to finally get the pony. Ramuh on the otherhand i had it on the first drop(Long live the RNG)

But no. Same goes with moogle ex. Was doing a unsynced party for a friend, and people just couldn't get through their head they should not touch the whm/blm untill they cast to interrupt. Its just so annoying at times XD
All in all, i really love the titan fight! But for some people(They claim =P) latency is a big issue haha.

Anyways keep on rocking till titan stops knocking =P

In my experience pre-heavansward I could clear titan-ex in 4/5 PUG parties. However, after Heavansward the odds are more 1/5. I think its the influx of new players. When I check them they are usually wearing dungeon i90 gears. Idk why they just don't buy the 115 gears from MB at the very least...

get a friend and duo it (tank + heal), it still takes only 5 minutes and you only have to get 2 ponies

a heal with vit accessories can survive the gaol explosion, which deals about 13k dmg without shields, same for the tank

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Originally Posted by Blitzace

In someway it just shows how some people do not deserve the unsynced pony's. I get unsynced for progression for newer people. But pony's and stuff it feels kinda cheap since myself and alot of other people did it the hard way. But that happens with older content it gets easier i suppose:)
May i add, titan cost me over 100+ wins to finally get the pony. Ramuh on the otherhand i had it on the first drop(Long live the RNG)

But no. Same goes with moogle ex. Was doing a unsynced party for a friend, and people just couldn't get through their head they should not touch the whm/blm untill they cast to interrupt. Its just so annoying at times XD
All in all, i really love the titan fight! But for some people(They claim =P) latency is a big issue haha.

Anyways keep on rocking till titan stops knocking =P

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I ran Titan ex the "right way" so many times before the new content but had no luck just the same. I don't have the exact numbers but I am sure it is in the same realm as yours. lol I don't know if this makes me deserving of a pony, or not, but the blood sweat and tears are real. XD

As far as moogle goes, I refuse to do that one unsynced unless I know my party very well. That fight is just too touchy for it. I have run into that very same issue with the BLM and WHM moogles though. XD It is so frustrating and similar to trying to communicate the wind and water debuffs on Bismark EX. lol

haha yeah for sure, i mean titan was a nightmare. had groups that cleared em without mistakes and had groups that couldn't dodge a single landslide(So called farm group ny ass xD!) But that goes for every primal i guess. The most irritation i had was garuda for sure. *Starts* *Explain tactics* *repeatedly remind people DO NOT TOUCH SPINY!* *Spiny spawns* *mark IGNORE* *Spiny dies!* lé sigh. I give up!

Haha, No but seriously. Moogle is a pain in the ass, and as far as bismark goes... lets just say i leveled up my DRG to 60 and geared it almost up to full 190 to get that clear(just dinged 60 last night) Cause for the hell of it, not a single party i've been in is able to clear the DPS check past phase2. Wether its unlucky or just rolled some bad people in my tries, i don't know. But i'm gonna do my very best to clear is now :P

My FC has started a "Minimal ilv night" Titan EX has never been so hard xD Took Titan, Garuda and Ultima Weapon down so far and its been fun :)

I wonder why people QQ about Titan and not Ramuh, Ramuh kicks Titans' arse.

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Originally Posted by Chiramu

I wonder why people QQ about Titan and not Ramuh, Ramuh kicks Titans' arse.

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And I learned that the last week. XD I got my pony from ramuh at least though. XP Still, getting players to be on the same page in ramuh is one big pain a lot of the time. XD

Bad players will be bad no matter what their ilvl is.

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Originally Posted by FridgePanic

Bad players will be bad no matter what their ilvl is.

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In all fairness, give the game real time movement tracking like WoW or Rift and much of the "badness" would drastically vanish.

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Originally Posted by Lan_Mantear

In my experience pre-heavansward I could clear titan-ex in 4/5 PUG parties. However, after Heavansward the odds are more 1/5. I think its the influx of new players. When I check them they are usually wearing dungeon i90 gears. Idk why they just don't buy the 115 gears from MB at the very least...

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...because folks are selling them for 100k+ lol... I seen some go for 300k.

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Originally Posted by Jim_Berry

...because folks are selling them for 100k+ lol... I seen some go for 300k.

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Amazing how some people still don't know about NPC vendors.

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Originally Posted by Blitzace

All in all, i really love the titan fight! But for some people(They claim =P) latency is a big issue haha.

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It's not lag. Weight of the Land is simply a fast cast. You need to start moving as soon as that bar shows up. Not a second after. But it's really no problem if you're late. As long as you're not late when 3+ of them are stacked.

Still can't get Titan to give me a pony - however I expect some groups to fail when going DF for Titan.
What has shocked me recently is the amount of players who can't seem to get a clear on Garuda. I have a better clear rate on Ramuh and Titan using DF then on Garuda since Heavensward.

I think Garuda is preventing majority of the bad players to progress to Titan etc yet.

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Originally Posted by Twilite

It's not lag. Weight of the Land is simply a fast cast. You need to start moving as soon as that bar shows up. Not a second after. But it's really no problem if you're late. As long as you're not late when 3+ of them are stacked.

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If you're a ranged or a caster and you're having issues dodging Weights, you can position yourself about one Weight's length behind the rest of the group. You'll still be baiting Landslides in the right direction, but that way, if you don't get out of a Weight in time, you'll only get hit by one instead of the entire stack.

I ran titan hm the other day for trial roulette. Granted wasn't unsynced... but after titans heart, there was only 4 people left. Me (dps), tank, healer n another dps. Everyone else died. The only time I took dmg was stomps... I would figure by now people would have it down. Guess not. Lol

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Originally Posted by Jim_Berry

...because folks are selling them for 100k+ lol... I seen some go for 300k.

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That's for the HQ version. NQ is cheap at the vendors and even on MB.

Besides, not hard to make money. Here's just one quick way to do it:

Get your 2 free retainers at max level. Look at the market board and see what sells often and start sending them on hunts every hour you can. You'll easily make 100k a day.

Just had a group last night wipe on Titan HM. It was sad...

2 people knocked off to landslide
3 people dying to every bomb combo and Weight of the Land
OT refused to remove his tank stance

Then I get flak for not raising the other healer. "I can solo heal this, I'd raise him but I'd be wasting MP watching him die to the next set of bombs every time. My MP is better saved for the DPS who die every bomb phase, at least they can squeeze in damage and free Gaol targets between dying."

Glad to know I'm not the only one who's been carrying Titan hm lately. Running for light the other day and literally all of the deeps died. One went as far as to say we should just wipe it with no dps up so I dropped everything and carried harder (War deeps ftw). I think it was just me and a blm that got raised in the end.

The simple reason people continue to fail the extreme primals as of late because the new players who never did it and the older players who never could do it think that somehow they can magically beat all the extremes through beating it overgeared and unsynced without bothering to learn the fights.
Also in regards to plumes.Except for the last phase on titan extreme always stack together.makes it easier to dodge them as a groups as opposed to having them all over the platform and getting in peoples way.

I am still trying too clear titan ex too move on too Ifrit ex it been a few months and no clear >.>

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Originally Posted by Metalwrath

The simple reason people continue to fail the extreme primals as of late because the new players who never did it and the older players who never could do it think that somehow they can magically beat all the extremes through beating it overgeared and unsynced without bothering to learn the fights.

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I'm a new player trying to get through Garuda. It's been frustrating. I know all the mechanics like the back of my hand, but I keep getting with parties that have no idea what they're doing. ("No! Not the Spiny Plume!" wipes again) I've attempted to get through Garuda all week to no avail. I may try it unsynced and see if that helps.

Either that or actually find a group to stick with long-term. I'm pretty stuck in "solo" mode for 99% of the game, so I haven't done much to find a consistent group. I can't imagine even attempting the Coils of Bahamut with Duty Finder.

Ramuh is the one I've been having trouble with. Between groups and RNG I keep seeing whistles slip juuuuust by me.

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Originally Posted by Garlador

I'm a new player trying to get through Garuda. It's been frustrating. I know all the mechanics like the back of my hand, but I keep getting with parties that have no idea what they're doing. ("No! Not the Spiny Plume!" wipes again) I've attempted to get through Garuda all week to no avail. I may try it unsynced and see if that helps.

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In unsynced you can ignore the mechanics and burn burn burn within 3 minutes. It's a beautiful thing. A competent healer can solo heal it.

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Originally Posted by Lan_Mantear

In my experience pre-heavansward I could clear titan-ex in 4/5 PUG parties. However, after Heavansward the odds are more 1/5. I think its the influx of new players. When I check them they are usually wearing dungeon i90 gears. Idk why they just don't buy the 115 gears from MB at the very least...

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This has been a problem in a lot of dungeons since 3.0 came out, actually.

When I first started heavensward, I didn't notice much of a difference in the new dungeons/raids/trials, but the moment I went back to run older content I was like, "What the hell happened??" Suddenly I had healers who couldn't keep me alive on basic pulls and Dps who were so slow it was taking near 30 minutes to run a dungeon that I used to speed pull with PUGs in 15. Then I realized... noobs.

The reason the HW content was going (semi) smoothly was because the people in HW were the same people who were running old content with me back before expansion, but all the old stuff is now populated with people who can't run HW yet because they haven't cleared the old stuff, and they suck. I wish there was a more graceful way of saying that, but it's true. They suck. Especially the ones who power leveled to 50 using FATES or some other method. They don't know their rotations or how to do their jobs, so when they have to run a dungeon that's not pure easy street things fall apart.

The first wave of these people have already hit HW, and when I saw them I was like, oh God... they're here...

I never found Titan to be that difficult, myself. The hardest part was finding 7 other players who weren't doing their best to imitate a quacking duck. That being said, there are certain fights that can still wipe a team REGARDLESS of unsync, and Titan is one of them.

Most unsync parties are all: "BURN BURN BURN!!!! F*** THE MECHANICS! BURN!!!" That's why a lot of noobs sign up for unsync'd parties. They think they can just skip the mechs and get an easy win. The thing is, you can't ignore a Landslide (well, maybe a PLD can every minute or so, but still), or the T9 debuffs/divebombs. These are make or break mechs that will wipe a player, or the team, if you think you can just unsync and somehow be immune.

I hated Divebombs in T9, myself. I don't think I've ever met a player who liked them, but this unsync'd fiasco has made me glad they exist. There are some fights that I don't think you should be able to just sidestep without any skill. The original players who ran those raids/trials didn't even have echo to fall back on. It's a little insulting to see noobs think they are somehow entitled to an insta clear because they have some fancy gear. It also cultivates a bad attitude in those players. They roll into HW thinking they're gonna do the same thing, that fights will just fall apart in front of them, and then they can't figure out why they keep wiping their group over and over and over.

I like unsync'd runs. I want them to stay, but I am glad that certain bosses like Titan or T9-T13 are still gateway bosses that cock block the noob train. Personally, I don't think they should allow unsync'd parties until after you've already cleared once. That way, the noobs will have had to put the effort in at least once and won't go into Bis Ex thinking they can just faceroll over him.

Titan unsync can cause major issues.A lot of Dps not realising how little hp the gaol has and accidently breaking it and getting healer hit with landslide.Seen this happen so many times.
Ifrit Unsync has the issue if you do too much dps you skip a phase which leads to instant wipe.
Leviathan has a similar issue that you move to phases too fast from high dps and the generator doesn't recharge in time.
Garuda unsynced on the other hand can be done in 3 mins ignoring some mechanics even with a team that consists of 1 healer and 7 tanks.

Also with Ramuh unsynced there is the potential to accidentally push the add phase too fast especially when tanking him as Warrior.The more damage he takes during add phase the short the add phase becomes meaning you might not get time to kill all the adds.

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Originally Posted by Metalwrath

Also with Ramuh unsynced there is the potential to accidentally push the add phase too fast especially when tanking him as Warrior.The more damage he takes during add phase the short the add phase becomes meaning you might not get time to kill all the adds.

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I've seen all of these phase pushes first hand. I usually run as my PLD, and in ever single case I was forced to completely STOP Dps'ing at one point or another to avoid pushing phases, because I was dropping boss Hp to within 1% of phase change by myself.

Sometimes, Level sync almost causes too much trouble to be bothered. It's helpful, for sure, when you have noobs in the group who don't know how to output their maximum Dps, but when you have a full pre-made with vets who have all cleared the content the hard way, it's almost better to just run sync'd so you can avoid getting insta-wiped by phase changes. It's not like they're long fights to begin with. Titan ex could be cleared in 5 minutes before HW came out.

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Originally Posted by chibaby

I am still trying too clear titan ex too move on too Ifrit ex it been a few months and no clear >.>

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The honest truth about difficult clears is that unsync'd will not necessarily help you as much as actually having a group that know what they're doing. If you know the fight really well (as in you can get through the whole thing straight to add phase without dying or falling off and know all of his moves like the back of your hand) than look for people who have already cleared it. Set up a PF explicitly stating your case (Need a Titan Ex clear. No noobs. Know the fight/have past clear exp, etc.) and be willing to boot people who don't pull their weight.

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Originally Posted by Februs

The honest truth about difficult clears is that unsync'd will not necessarily help you as much as actually having a group that know what they're doing. If you know the fight really well (as in you can get through the whole thing straight to add phase without dying or falling off and know all of his moves like the back of your hand) than look for people who have already cleared it. Set up a PF explicitly stating your case (Need a Titan Ex clear. No noobs. Know the fight/have past clear exp, etc.) and be willing to boot people who don't pull their weight.

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thank you for your help I will try this

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Originally Posted by chibaby

thank you for your help I will try this

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Be warned: PF's can be a cut-throat or toxic place. A lot of people try to join PF's to get easy clears and will sign up hoping the other 7 people will carry them. It shouldn't be as big of a problem for the older fights nowadays, since it is possible for a smaller group of experienced players to carry the weaker ones, but it still happens (it's a HUGE problem with the newer fights in the game. The Dps check for Bismark ex was astronomical and required all 4 Dps to MAX their outputs when it first came out. There were no carries in that fight, but people still tried to sign up thinking they could just hide in the group). So, try to stay positive and keep your eyes open for any bad apples trying to sneak their way onto the wagon.