Please raise the gil transfer limit.

with 3.5 trillion gil in circulation and how much some people have amassed, the current limit just doesn't make any sense. It discourages people from moving cross world to find a raid static. It discourages players from meeting up with friends. And saying its to prevent RMT abuse isn't a good reason. RMT preventative measures should NEVER come at the cost of making the game less enjoyable for legitimate players. WoW had a gil transfer limit of 1/4 of the possible max (in FFXIV numbers 250m). The current transfer cap is 1/250 of that.

If you need more gil sinks in the game, just add them in a meaningful way instead of straight up deleting tens of millions at a time from players that worked hard for it. And investing into items isnt really a solution for people with 100m+. We shouldnt have to do that much work to retain our money.

It also encourages bots to send millions gil to other servers. It also helps the servers economies remain stable.

I am fine with it, my characters are max level and both of them don't even have 500k. Its based off the average player and it does it well.

If you want to transfer 10million gil to a server, that is 20$ for each move. Your guild makes a donation to SE and you get your gil. =)

The gil transfer limit isn't a gil sink. It's a preventative measure to protect smaller servers' economies.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

It also encourages bots to send millions gil to other servers. It also helps the servers economies remain stable.

I am fine with it, my characters are max level and both of them don't even have 500k. Its based off the average player and it does it well.

If you want to transfer 10million gil to a server, that is 20$ for each move. Your guild makes a donation to SE and you get your gil. =)

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I take it you don't craft, I apparently have 5 times both your characters combined and I don't even try that hard. o.O

I don't get how it helps to protect a small server's economy when it just means that the people who transfer are just going to check the market for stuff they can buy and resell at a profit. The only difference is the pain in the ass it causes.

They should raise that cap up to 200-300mil atleast, current amout you can take with you when trasferring is mere pocketchanges.

With the amount of gil in circulation at this point in the game, it could be raised a little higher than 1m on your character and 100k per retainer. By no means do I have a lot and I have more than that atm and had far more back when I did my transfer. Something like 3m or even as high 5m would allow people to transfer more efficiently without all the fuss and without doing any damage to the economy on the destination server or giving shady players/rmt the option to use the service to move gil around.

1M or less would be reasonable if transfers were free. But with the real money cost, and the ability to buy items to sell on the new server 5-10M would be reasonable.

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Originally Posted by Brian_

I don't get how it helps to protect a small server's economy when it just means that the people who transfer are just going to check the market for stuff they can buy and resell at a profit. The only difference is the pain in the ass it causes.

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Because that's just shuffling already-existing gil around from character to character. It's completely different from taking an enormous amount of brand-new gil from outside the system and dumping it into the economy all at once.

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

Because that's just shuffling already-existing gil around from character to character. It's completely different from taking an enormous amount of brand-new gil from outside the system and dumping it into the economy all at once.

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The two scenarios you described are essentially the same thing because each server has an isolated economy. Having gil transferred to the server and having gil suddenly just appear on the server won't have different consequences on the server.

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

Because that's just shuffling already-existing gil around from character to character. It's completely different from taking an enormous amount of brand-new gil from outside the system and dumping it into the economy all at once.

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I've been thinking about transferring servers for a while. Every time I check the MB, I buy up all the allagan coins and demimateria that are not outrageously overpriced. It's probably not efficient as I could just buy items that resell at a profit, but I prefer knowing I will have the gil immediately without relying on the MB.

So, I will have 5m from selling that stuff alone. That's gil that's not in the market, that's not player to player. It's straight up taking a large amount of raw gil from one server and moving it to another. If you actually put more effort into the process, I'm sure you could quickly accumulate a much larger amount of cash tokens -- so sitting in PF rather than just relying on the MB.

If people want to move a large amount of gil, they can. Your markets aren't safe from anything. So, that's not why the limit exists. If it is, then it's a horrible reason.

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Originally Posted by Brian_

I've been thinking about transferring servers for a while. Every time I check the MB, I buy up all the allagan coins and demimateria that are not outrageously overpriced. It's probably not efficient as I could just buy items that resell at a profit, but I prefer knowing I will have the gil immediately without relying on the MB.

So, I will have 5m from selling that stuff alone. That's gil that's not in the market, that's not player to player. It's straight up taking a large amount of raw gil from one server and moving it to another. If you actually put more effort into the process, I'm sure you could quickly accumulate a much larger amount of cash tokens -- so sitting in PF rather than just relying on the MB.

If people want to move a large amount of gil, they can. Your markets aren't safe from anything. So, that's not why the limit exists. If it is, then it's a horrible reason.

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That's definitely dumping gil into the market. I was specifically replying to you about buying items to resell at profit.

I really don't see any legitimate reason that they should start allowing massive amounts of gil to move from server to server. That just opens the door to using server transfers as a vehicle to basically P2W your way to riches in relative ease. Yes you can move more money with the Allagan coins and the clear Demimateria, but obtaining them in huge quantities is time consuming at best and requires a lot of effort.

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

The gil transfer limit isn't a gil sink. It's a preventative measure to protect smaller servers' economies.

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Except on smaller servers I can buy stupid expensive frilly items and resell them for a profit after the transfer.

Certain glamour gear goes for a few hundred thousand here, but a few million elsewhere.

They'll just do what they do in WoW, which also has a gold transfer limit(which only applies to characters, not guilds, so you'll get people making guilds, dumping it in the bank and paying the 55 to transfer the guild itself)... Buy mounts, pets, and materials for resale.

Especially when going from large to small... that item in stupid high supply on one server might be scarce and fetching a fortune elsewhere.

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

I take it you don't craft, I apparently have 5 times both your characters combined and I don't even try that hard. o.O

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6.3M and I don't craft...

Want to know how to transfer that much Gill create an mule on the server you want to go and check out market board see what mats are in demand and buy them from server you on then put in retainers or buy max crystals and stock up retainers when you move out up for sale

The transfer limit is a pain but it's for a good reason. It does make it hard if you want to sell something to a friend or someone refers you some business to craft something or whatever. I mean what thing of value goes for just a mil now? Kingly whiskers and things like dusk leather I'm looking at you.

I get why its there though. Anytime I am inconvenienced by it I just think of all the trouble it give RMT and I don't feel so bad anymore. :P

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

It also encourages bots to send millions gil to other servers. It also helps the servers economies remain stable.

I am fine with it, my characters are max level and both of them don't even have 500k. Its based off the average player and it does it well.

If you want to transfer 10million gil to a server, that is 20$ for each move. Your guild makes a donation to SE and you get your gil. =)

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Of course its fine with you, you don't do anything else in the game:

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...cter/10203728/

So you want ambush server that has low price for everything? No I decline.

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

The gil transfer limit isn't a gil sink. It's a preventative measure to protect smaller servers' economies.

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If a server is small chances are there are more people transferring off instead of to it. Small servers usually have an economy with inflated prices as well. Even if the gil limit was raised, it would go further on a large server.

Or if your looking to transfer buy a ton of the allagan tin or such items from the MB and then resell once you move.

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Originally Posted by sackm

saying its to prevent RMT abuse isn't a good reason.

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Sounds like someone is in very good graces with RMT and should be reported.

I felt the pain. I had 80 million I had to spend before transferring from gilgamesh to balmung. Honestly, being 2 of the highest population servers I don't think it would have mattered much to take that gil wil me. But I can see why that's the case if I had gone to a smaller server. What hurt worse was relinquishing my house and not being able to get another because of the housing issues :(

somebody in my world was offering a relinquish of his large mansion for 230 million, cant even imagine how long the trade would take at 1M each time. i understand it's to prevent gil selling buy honestly, it doesnt stop anything and it's just annoying for everyone else. i only use gils to teleport and repair so i dont trade very much but if i want to pay someone to relinquish a house, i want to do it one shot, not 30 times.

I think those limits are kinda old when servers were still young and economies were still growing. I think those limits are too small nowadays and they need to be revised.

Gil transfer limit was a blessing in disguise for me because of it I was able to double my gil income through liquifying my gil into decent selling items.

And in the end I was able to own my dream Personal L House (My own mansion) in the most amazing spot in The Goblet near the waterfall and overlooking thw whole ward and the mountains beyond it, right before all plots were taken.

To the people who are saying they can just buy items that sell at cost from the MB and vendor them on the new server - yes, you can. Yes, that's no different than transferring the money directly. But if you're doing that with ~20 million gil, how long does that take? How easy is it if a hundred other people are doing it too? The point isn't that the current system prevents one person from dumping a bunch of gil into a server with a weaker economy. The point is that it prevents a significant number of people from doing it all at once. One person isn't going to completely destroy the economy. Sure, if you transfer enough all at once, the economy will ripple, but that'll settle after a short while back to the equilibrium it was at before. But, a hundred people transferring 20 million gil to a server where that has the buying power of 200 million or more? That's going to significantly impact the economy for months/years. That's what they're preventing.

The system is fine. If you want to transfer all your gil, work at it. Camp the MB for items that sell at vendor cost, like BC2s, FC2s, elemental materia Is, clear demis, and allagan pieces. It's doable. No one is stopping you. The hassle is part of the system, which appears to be working nicely.

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Originally Posted by Novaura

Sounds like someone is in very good graces with RMT and should be reported.

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Probably the dumbest reply I've ever seen someone say. He's right, RMT abuse should not be the reason to limit the amount of gil you can take off the server. Ive transferred twice, each time having to buy well over 60mil in items to resell on the new server. Its a horrible pain. Markets are so unstable at any given time you could lose big (one transfer cost me about 20mil because the of a market crash) Either way the limit needs to be a bit higher, in the 20/30mil range i'd say and thats not that high. I have 3x that amount now(with all my resell items from previous server sitting on my retainer). Will never transfer again

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Originally Posted by RosaBlanche

somebody in my world was offering a relinquish of his large mansion for 230 million, cant even imagine how long the trade would take at 1M each time. i understand it's to prevent gil selling buy honestly, it doesnt stop anything and it's just annoying for everyone else. i only use gils to teleport and repair so i dont trade very much but if i want to pay someone to relinquish a house, i want to do it one shot, not 30 times.

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three words -- Free Company Chest

Some people seem to need the reason dumbed down further. Take two boxes and fill them to a point with pence. Lets say 4/5ths. Then take a cup roughly as tall as the boxes. Using the box as an example fill the cup from one box to how much you think you're worth in gil. Now pour that into the other box. That is the impact you'd have without the transfer limit. With the transfer limit your cup would be about the size of a small paper rinsing cup filled to the brim. Have retainers? A little paper rinsing cup filled about a third the way for each one. Far smaller impact than the other cup, isn't it.

Just put in a 3% tax on gil over 1m. Problem solved.

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Originally Posted by CrystalRainbow

Just put in a 3% tax on gil over 1m. Problem solved.

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All that does is turn it into an actual gil sink. It doesn't change what's actually being done.

Surprised no one asks a friend to mail them their money.


That's what I did. lol. Anything in the mog mail is kept there forever.

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Originally Posted by UltimateAoe2

Surprised no one asks a friend to mail them their money.


That's what I did. lol. Anything in the mog mail is kept there forever.

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negative ghostrider, this no longer works if you transfer. You lose all the gil

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Originally Posted by SinisterJointss

negative ghostrider, this no longer works if you transfer. You lose all the gil

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Are you sure? I just did it last week, o_o..