Color effect the stats of robes now?

Felt Robe (Green)
MP+54 Magic Potency+8 Magic Evasion +8

Felt Robe (Red)
MP+54 Mind +6 Magic Evasion +8

Is someone tell me Green Wizards are superior to Red wizards. This is unacceptable Red and Green are practically brothers. Grey them out and they make the same grey.

But seriously why are the stats different? What if I want the magic potency on the red robe? How do I get it on there?

For some reason, they decided that color is no longer an aesthetic change, but one that actually alters the way you play. Trying to mach an aesthetic with a certain class or style of gameplay.

Some changes may be a little more extreme than necessary though.

I would like some clarification on this as well. I prefer to wear read gear because I like the color and it matches my character. Making certain colors of gear have different stats prevents players from choosing the color that they most prefer.

I don't see why a color change should alter the stats considering it was the same robe at one point. Cause even with materia I bet that green robe would still be better considering it has that +8 magic potency.

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

Felt Robe (Green)
MP+54 Magic Potency+8 Magic Evasion +8

Felt Robe (Red)
MP+54 Mind +6 Magic Evasion +8

Is someone tell me Green Wizards are superior to Red wizards. This is unacceptable Red and Green are practically brothers. Grey them out and they make the same grey.

But seriously why are the stats different? What if I want the magic potency on the red robe? How do I get it on there?

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Well spotted.

I assumed they would be the same and just gave away the green robe I made.
I like red better anyway, but their thought process on the new coloring is a bit strange.

So I suppose most people will be wanting green felt robes now?

Example :-

Linen - red (+mnd)
Linen - Blue (+int)

Could it be that SE plan to have gear based on the job, ie whm and blm.

Looking at the felt gear red would be the white mages gear and green would be for black mage.

If this is true, you know it's inevitable that pink will have the best stats...

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Originally Posted by nasomi

If this is true, you know it's inevitable that pink will have the best stats...

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Red linen is pink and canvas doesn't exist anymore.

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

I don't see why a color change should alter the stats considering it was the same robe at one point. Cause even with materia I bet that green robe would still be better considering it has that +8 magic potency.

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I don't see why a wearing a ring can improve my accuracy or make me more powerful.

It's a video game ^_^

i like the color bonus but it shouldn't make one better then the other. say you have green and white have green have
+10 int and white have +10 mnd. then you dont have everyone wearing the same color cause the other one is obsolete.

I'm hoping it's a crutch until they can make more armor sets. It basically makes "unique" pieces of gear since they have different stats. We've gotten spoiled on being able to pick our colors I think.

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Originally Posted by Roaran

I don't see why a wearing a ring can improve my accuracy or make me more powerful.

It's a video game ^_^

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Because magic can be absorbed by normal objects like rings. Depending of the original wearer positive or negative energy goes into the the object, and either could increase healing being the positive energy, or destructive power being the negative.

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

i like the color bonus but it shouldn't make one better then the other. say you have green and white have green have
+10 int and white have +10 mnd. then you dont have everyone wearing the same color cause the other one is obsolete.

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How is it, Mnd now increases total healing output, Int increases total damage output, it seems pretty obvious what they plan to do with this.

I've blown a fair amount of gil myself on gear that I can't use all because the color dictated what class could wear it. Seriously SE, this does NOT make the game better, it only makes buying new gear more confusing and frustrating. Color should NOT make a raptor jerkin DoL-only when the uncolored version allows for certain DoW to wear it. Never do this again.

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Originally Posted by Vanguard319

I've blown a fair amount of gil myself on gear that I can't use all because the color dictated what class could wear it. Seriously SE, this does NOT make the game better, it only makes buying new gear more confusing and frustrating. Color should NOT make a raptor jerkin DoL-only when the uncolored version allows for certain DoW to wear it. Never do this again.

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I agree that changing the colour definately shouldn't have this kind of effect, adding a few stats here and there is one thing but completely changing the class restrictions is a step too far.

It might be that some non coloured items aren't labeled/working properly though.

I also find it bizarre that colouring a HQ item can revert it back to a NQ, this needs to be fixed even if it means that you can only colour a HQ item with a HQ dye.

I wonder also that if you colour an item that has 50% spiritbond it will reset that as well, I assume it would, not good !

YoshiP or the JP Reps posted about this before 1.19 about the colors affecting gear stats.

As for coloring your own items they said they will want to look into that later on, so for now everyone is going to end up looking exactly same OR you can try to put on materia to these gears to match the other colors stats, which is kind of dumb imo.

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

YoshiP or the JP Reps posted about this before 1.19 about the colors affecting gear stats.

As for coloring your own items they said they will want to look into that later on, so for now everyone is going to end up looking exactly same OR you can try to put on materia to these gears to match the other colors stats, which is kind of dumb imo.

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I agree. If I want to make the stats equal, it won't, because if someone gets a green robe with Magic Potency on it, they are probably putting the same materia I'd put into the red robe, still making the green one better.

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

I agree. If I want to make the stats equal, it won't, because if someone gets a green robe with Magic Potency on it, they are probably putting the same materia I'd put into the red robe, still making the green one better.

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Stats > looks

Wow, what? What happened to aesthetic freedom? This is debilitating.

I agree, I am disappointed that they would give different colors different stats. I mean we already "have" to wear certain gear based on our rank, so why not let us have the purely cosmetic choice of 3-4 colors for said gear? I happen to like green, but what about my friend who loves red, or prefers the plain white? :(

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Originally Posted by Jinko

Stats > looks

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True, but then it makes me a hypocrite. It's my pride as a red Wizard!

Yea tbh it does seem slightly pointless to force this on us especially when we have the option of customsation via materia.

I also think they need to remove HQ now aswell as it serves little purpose except the odd bit of extra def, again which can be customised with materia, it would remove a crap ton of HQ materials from the game freeing up much needed inventory space aswell.

This is a very bad concept. People want to wear their favorite color not whatever color SE decides has the best stats. On top of that, this means people wont be able to make aesthetically pleasing gear sets. People are going to be all one color, or a bunch of random colors..

I knew these crafting changes were only going to make things worse..

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Originally Posted by Jigg

I'm hoping it's a crutch until they can make more armor sets. It basically makes "unique" pieces of gear since they have different stats. We've gotten spoiled on being able to pick our colors I think.

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We are not spoiled by being able to pick our color. If they put a Dying mechanic in a game it means we get to pick our color. It is unreasonable to impose a color on a person just to pretend like you have design a wider variety of gear.

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Originally Posted by Vanguard319

I've blown a fair amount of gil myself on gear that I can't use all because the color dictated what class could wear it. Seriously SE, this does NOT make the game better, it only makes buying new gear more confusing and frustrating. Color should NOT make a raptor jerkin DoL-only when the uncolored version allows for certain DoW to wear it. Never do this again.

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No, not never do this again. Go back and fix it. This is Ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by Kiote

We are not spoiled by being able to pick our color. If they put a Dying mechanic in a game it means we get to pick our color. It is unreasonable to impose a color on a person just to pretend like you have design a wider variety of gear.

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Whos to say they wanted us to choose the colour of our gear anyway, i think its more a move to identify a job by what its wearing.

I wouldn't be totally surprised if they lock certain colours to certain jobs later on and im ok with that, when I play offline FF games I don't get much choice in what I wear so I duno why the online version would be any different.

You couldn't colour gear in FF11 and that worked out just fine.

I think it could look quite cool later on if a warrior wears red plate and a paladin wears white or silver armour.

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Originally Posted by Jinko

Whos to say they wanted us to choose the colour of our gear anyway, i think its more a move to identify a job by what its wearing.

I wouldn't be totally surprised if they lock certain colours to certain jobs later on.

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That is what Class specific gear is for. To define the aesthetic of a Job you make a set that can only be obtained by that job. That's why XI has Artifact Armour. That's why every other MMO has class quest armour. Coloring is a way for players to express themselves within the restrictions of the already heavy guidelines places on gear. A Mage is defined by wearing a Robe. In FF a black mage is defined by a Point hat and a White Mage is defined by a Flared clothing. Color has not determined the role of a Class in any game since video games stopped being made of Sprites.

This was simply a half-assed way to make it look like there was more gear variety, but all it does is gimp and put off players.

Something I thought was interesting, while the Red robe gives +MND and the Green robe gives +Magic Potency, the Red hat gives +INT and the green hat gives +MND.

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Originally Posted by Kiote

That is what Class specific gear is for. To define the aesthetic of a Job you make a set that can only be obtained by that job. That's why XI has Artifact Armour. That's why every other MMO has class quest armour. Coloring is a way for players to express themselves within the restrictions of the already heavy guidelines places on gear. A Mage is defined by wearing a Robe. In FF a black mage is defined by a Point hat and a White Mage is defined by a Flared clothing. Color has not determined the role of a Class in any game since video games stopped being made of Sprites.

This was simply a half-assed way to make it look like there was more gear variety, but all it does is gimp and put off players.

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OK you are generalising here, WoW for example doesn't have colour dyed gear either, but it does have hundred or thousands of gear types, styles and choices.

At this stage its too early to know what SE have planned, just because you want something don't get up on your high horse and start proclaiming that you deserve it because you lead yourself to think that.

This forum community has some of those worst self entitled people around, I bet Yoshi-p sighs and rolls his eyes everytime he reads these forums.

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Originally Posted by Jinko

OK you are generalising here, WoW for example doesn't have colour dyed gear either, but it does have hundred or thousands of gear types, styles and choices.

At this stage its too early to know what SE have planned, just because you want something don't get up on your high horse and start proclaiming that you deserve it because you lead yourself to think that.

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I'm not on a high Horse. This is a feature they Gave us and are now taking away for literally no reason. To have the same piece of armour give two different stats is just a lazy way to pretend there is more variety in the armour. There is no excuse for removing such a beloved mechanic from the game especially after telling us they were going to make it easier to have customized colors for our armour.

You still have the choice, do you go for the colour you want or the stats you want.

As i said before I'd like to see all armour have 0 stats and no HQ and then you customise by adding materia, but im sure Yoshi has something else planned and we'll just have to see how that turns out.

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Originally Posted by Kiote

I'm not on a high Horse. This is a feature they Gave us and are now taking away for literally no reason. To have the same piece of armour give two different stats is just a lazy way to pretend there is more variety in the armour. There is no excuse for removing such a beloved mechanic from the game especially after telling us they were going to make it easier to have customized colors for our armour.

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so having the same armor with the same stats but just different colors is not lazy? u can wear what u want to wear, just dont complain when people don't pick u up for a party because u choose to wear a green robe rather than a red robe.

if u cared so much for how u look, then .dat swap

I don't understand how people are defending the removal of being able to wear the color you want without feeling obligated one way or another due to arbitrary stats.

Comparing this to FFXI or WoW are poor examples because they never had a dying system. FFXIV gave us a dying system for the purpose of character customization, and now they're botching it for no reason by tying it to stats.

We have Materia now. Equipment stat variances should be based on that, not color.

I just found out that the woolen apron loses 30 control when you dye it, take that and cry some more ! lol

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Originally Posted by GabbaGabba

just dont complain when people don't pick u up for a party because u choose to wear a green robe rather than a red robe.

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That is exactly the point..

People should not have to worry about being rejected because the Color they want to wear isn't good enough to compete. That is an absolutely ridiculous thing to have to worry about.