To all you UNDERCUTTERS out there!

You da real MVP.

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And I'm out for the weekend. Y'all have fun.

There are no undercutters. Only overcutters.

Capitalism is a wonderful thing.

If you try to sell a level 30 item for 50K gil
and I come along and sell the same item for 15K gil
that isn't undercutting
that is market correction

what level 30 sprout can afford a 50K item?

I think its good that some undercut it gives some of the new players a chance to get a high tier item.

Some can't afford some of the huge prices, this helps them a lot and some of the rich ones are mad cause they ain't getting the full monty.

Too much self greed now days >.> hence why REAL nice people undercut

It makes financial sense to undercut things. You gain zero Gil if your item doesn't sell. What are you thinking sellers will do, set their price higher and wait in line for their item to sell? Most of the time the offers that are sitting on MB are sitting there *because* they are overpriced and nobody bought them. Undercutters aren't actually making an item cheaper, it's natural price correction until a price is reached at which the item will actually sell.

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Originally Posted by Catwho

what level 30 sprout can afford a 50K item?

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This. If the item I'm selling is meant for level 45-60 players, I'll barely undercut the lowest bidder, assuming I undercut them at all. But if it's for someone below that, I just sell it at whatever price is reasonable.

I started with a new character recently and found that I couldn't afford any more than one marketboard item even after saving up all my Gil so far, and selling all monster drops and Allagan pieces.

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Originally Posted by Amiaze

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Originally Posted by Catwho

what level 30 sprout can afford a 50K item?

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This. If the item I'm selling is meant for level 45-60 players, I'll barely undercut the lowest bidder, assuming I undercut them at all. But if it's for someone below that, I just sell it at whatever price is reasonable.

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Exactly, I hate seeing low-level gear being sold at endgame prices. Sure, a few of the potential buyers have been around a couple years or more, have several level 60 jobs already, and are just leveling up a new alt class, but there's plenty of others who are just starting out and are getting only the slow trickle of gil that early game content gives. They need gear too, and aren't going to be spending the sort of gil you don't make until endgame. Prices should be appropriate to the item, which means pricing low-level gear towards the new player (or new character) market.

Welcome to the free market, where the person with the most discounted items win

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Originally Posted by Catwho

If you try to sell a level 30 item for 50K gil
and I come along and sell the same item for 15K gil
that isn't undercutting
that is market correction

what level 30 sprout can afford a 50K item?

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Congratulations, you've won the internet today!

As an aside, why isn't the OP of the other thread complaining about getting good deals from said undercutters?

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Originally Posted by Mykll

There are no undercutters. Only overcutters.

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Overcutters, otherwise known as price gougers? I will cut into their profits any day.

I love price gougers. If there's multiple offers for whatever HQ I'm selling up for like 50k it makes mine at 38k look cheap so it's more likely to sell. In all reality I paid less than 2k for the mats (more like 1k if even that) so it's extreme mark-up but all that matters is buyer perception so yeah...

Your welcome,
Robin Hood.

You are all welcome XD, Under cutter here and at your service. I have all the gill ill ever need, ill set prices as low as I want ;)

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Originally Posted by Catwho

If you try to sell a level 30 item for 50K gil
and I come along and sell the same item for 15K gil
that isn't undercutting
that is market correction

what level 30 sprout can afford a 50K item?

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Exactly.
I set prices that seem reasonable to me. :)

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Originally Posted by Zeonx

I think its good that some undercut it gives some of the new players a chance to get a high tier item.

Some can't afford some of the huge prices, this helps them a lot and some of the rich ones are mad cause they ain't getting the full monty.

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Those same new players that wont be able to make gil, because someone went and undercut prices too far? How do you guys even think new players make their gil in the first place? xD They need to sell something too, lol.

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Originally Posted by Aeyis

Those same new players that wont be able to make gil, because someone went and undercut prices too far? How do you guys even think new players make their gil in the first place? xD They need to sell something too, lol.

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Just because they're new and poor doesn't mean they have to be stupid when pricing. In fact, the new and poor should know exactly how much to price it for since they're the ones who know how much gil they had at that point in the game.

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Originally Posted by Aeyis

Those same new players that wont be able to make gil, because someone went and undercut prices too far? How do you guys even think new players make their gil in the first place? xD They need to sell something too, lol.

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Generally, brand new players make money through questing. The Main Scenario quest, sidequests, levequests, etc.

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Originally Posted by SasukeUchiha81

You are all welcome XD, Under cutter here and at your service. I have all the gill ill ever need, ill set prices as low as I want ;)

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you scumbag!! if you have all the monies, let us poor ppl rip others off!

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Originally Posted by Aeyis

How do you guys even think new players make their gil in the first place? xD They need to sell something too, lol.

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I've seen level 15 stuff being sold for ridiculous prices, and they're certainly not using the MB to accumulate gil at that point, as it's not even unlocked yet.

The Market Board is not the primary source of gil in this game. In fact, it's not a source of gil at all. All it does is transfer around the gil that has already been made from quests, FATEs, dungeons, leves, etc. It's the rate at which those primary sources provide gil that determines how much is reasonably available at any given point. And low-level quests, leves, FATEs, etc, don't pay out as much as high-level ones.

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

I've seen level 15 stuff being sold for ridiculous prices, and they're certainly not using the MB to accumulate gil at that point, as it's not even unlocked yet.

The Market Board is not the primary source of gil in this game. In fact, it's not a source of gil at all. All it does is transfer around the gil that has already been made from quests, FATEs, dungeons, leves, etc. It's the rate at which those primary sources provide gil that determines how much is reasonably available at any given point. And low-level quests, leves, FATEs, etc, don't pay out as much as high-level ones.

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Yes the MB is the medium where one accumulate gil, not generate it, but at the same time it is the best way to accumulate and be a a Rich merchant.

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

Exactly, I hate seeing low-level gear being sold at endgame prices. Sure, a few of the potential buyers have been around a couple years or more, have several level 60 jobs already, and are just leveling up a new alt class, but there's plenty of others who are just starting out and are getting only the slow trickle of gil that early game content gives. They need gear too, and aren't going to be spending the sort of gil you don't make until endgame. Prices should be appropriate to the item, which means pricing low-level gear towards the new player (or new character) market.

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Actually, most of the people buying gear from the MB are either buying leve turn ins or are leveling a second character. Questing gives enough gear that new players don't tend to look on MB for anything better.

I don't believe what I'm reading here. People with a decent understanding of economics? People with an understanding of how supply and demand works?

What's next? People being nice to each other? I don't know if I want to keep playing this game anymore...

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Originally Posted by Dynas

Actually, most of the people buying gear from the MB are either buying leve turn ins or are leveling a second character. Questing gives enough gear that new players don't tend to look on MB for anything better.

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I don't recall getting ANY gear from questing after I did Ifrit and before the "prepping you for HW" quests. Everything I got was from dungeons.