Tips healing A4 on astro

As title said. I have no issue healing A4 until the last phase where healers spread and get the debuff on them. ATM the debuff is ticking me for 3k+ and I literally have to spam benefic 2 to heal ( my benefic 1 only heals for 1.5-2k with ilvl 173 ). So while I'm trying to keep myself up, raid dmg is going on and tank buster is going out. Also, I go oom extremely easy if I have to rez someone since each time I cast it, it is about 20% of my max mp ( rez cost 2.6k and I have a mp pool of 12.9k ). Any tips for astro would really help. I used to mained whm and after seeing how they changed whm, I'm thinking of coming back to it.

You and/or your partner should apply regens to both healers. Either Regen+Medica2 or Aspected Benefic+Aspected Helios works fine.

With this you should only need some Benefics while you have 5-4 stacks and once it reaches 3 it should calm down again.

Should also try to avoid doing any soaking of orbs or lines while the Judgment debuffs are up as well. Tends to be extremely dicey if you aren't prepared to Tetra/Bene/Lustrate/Dignity the likely 10k+ damage you'll be taking in a short timespan. :p

Everyone needs to remain spread as well; practically all the raid damage splashes around targets.

What if my parter is a sch? My aspected benefic isn't going to help much against the ticks

Don't forget Synastry, it is a key skill that we used to clear A4. We had two ASTs and just alternated casting synastry on the main tank during those moments, he never dipped into a dangerous zone. Also if you pull a Spear card, spread it and cast it before using Luminiferous Aether so its back off cool down ASAP. Cast Ewer on yourself or the other healer along with Time Dilation to save them as much MP as possible.

Imo ur gonna have to learn how to carry. A4 in df is a nightmare & ofc there WILL be mistakes made, which will drain ur mp.
I was at i171 on my astro when i beat a4 but tbh it was pretty hard, harder than the occasional ravana ex party. I just couldn't stand it so i took matters into my own hands and solo 1 set of orbs/ do tether laser if near me while keeping up tanks during busters and healing myself / co healer. Was i oom? No but really close. I couldn't count on my party to get orbs/ a tether during phase 3.

So before a tether laser shot me i'd use aspected benefic with noct stance to act as a shield before casting benefic on my self to heal the judgement tick. Once orbs spawn, judgement debuff should be gone by then so i'd aspect myself eat 1, benefic 2 eat 1 aspect ben, eat 1 while saving essential for tanks and casting synastry on co healer while healing tanks.

My cards were alright i'd save ewer combo for my co healer so they can power heal party.

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Originally Posted by Beyondgrave

What if my parter is a sch? My aspected benefic isn't going to help much against the ticks

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Ur gonna have to trust them for shielding ppl at the right times cuz thts their job to shield and heal. If they can't shield anyone when its really needed then imo u have all the rights to go noct and overwrite their shield.

Ugg I hate overtime work. My static has cleaned Alex already and as of yet the fights in heavensward has not really been hectic for healers. I heard 4th floor was a real eye opener for healing.

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Originally Posted by Vlady

Ugg I hate overtime work. My static has cleaned Alex already and as of yet the fights in heavensward has not really been hectic for healers. I heard 4th floor was a real eye opener for healing.

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It's not hard, but you can't let people hang out at 5k health like you can in a lot of other fights. The boss WILL pick them for laser.

Boss be like, "Oh look, looks like you're just under half HP and healer is about to cast a heal on you, well here's a Perpetual Ray to the face."

Thanks for all the tips. I'll be doing it again tonight, should be able to get it down.

I don't know if I got luck or not but I beat A4 on third try in df in less 1h and only had more issues in the last part where we needed to spam aoe heals. During the encounter if your OT or DD get the yellow orbs right and deal with the yellow tethers right the fight won't be too hard. It will be just a healer responsibility to keep team full.

In p3 when we get that debuff we get 2 colors, one get a blue and other red. The healer than get blue debuff will need more heals than the one with red. Pop aspected helios then aspected benefic on both and other healer should pop medica 2 and regen if is whm for example and use normal heal, if go too low use essential dignity. Next debuff will switch, who had red get blue and the red get blue. Beside that try save max mp you can for last part. I was full then went down to 1k when boss died. If you get ewer use it too and spam your luminiferous aether when you go below 7k with spear if you got it, if not use anyway.

I hope I was useful even if is a little bit.

Thanks for the advices! I was able to down it last night even though my whm partner wasn't the best. I had the brd sing mana song the entire last phase since I was spamming benefic 2 and helios.

One thing about alexander that restores my faith in the community; you're more likely to have good groups in the later floors. If you have DD competent enough to handle floor 1, which they mustave done to see the rest of alexander, floor 3, and 4 generally go down easy.

Anticipate tanks and other who eat balls. Try not to eat them yourself. 1 ball + Ray = death. If you need to take one, make sure it hit by a heal immediately.

Regen both healers while the debuff is on, move back to the center when it expires to take advantage of your AoE heals. Just make sure you're out of the way before the boss finishes casting judgement.

Watch out for the boss casting discoid, your tank is gonna need some attention.

Gratz for the kill! I'm still struggling with that fight. Phase 1, sometimes people get hit by fireball + lazer and dies... Phase 3, fireballs and tethers on me, while I'm trying to heal myself from that debuff and watching out the tankbuster... And I'm aways having mana issues as AST o_o I even got kicked once from the group for dying with the OT on one of the fireballs on phase one -_- This greatly reduced my morale for the rest of the day.

I think once more people get the grasp of the mechanics and more gear, I'll be able to finish that raid. Must aways look Heavensward!

My raid team is WHM/SCH atm and we just Stoneskin + Adlo + Regen and the damage is mitigated so much you only need to heal yourself maybe once or twice. :)

And, like magic, I managed to kill it following this thread's advices!
-Focus Targeted boss and watched for Discord. First one healed normally, second one I used Disable on the boss, third one I coupled healz with Sinastry, and everything was so crazy on the fourth one that I don't remember what happened.
-Every DPS helped with the fireballs and tethers, but never killing eachother :3
-Aspected Benefics and Helios everytime the debuff on me was falling off.

Was worth it. 10/10.

Best to have a whm partner due to regen stacking but it can be done with any other healer just harder on your mp pool as you have to be on the ball with heals another tactic is synastry with the other healer so they can heal you while you heal the tank.

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Originally Posted by winsock

. Try not to eat them yourself. 1 ball + Ray = death. If you need to take one, make sure it hit by a heal immediately.

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In my static the Healers take the Orbs in all but the last phase. Time a heal to hit as the ball hits and recover the damage instantly. I've found that the orbs damage has never interrupted a cast. I usually take the hit then a step back. Precast the heal and stutterstep in the orb so the hit and the heal are at the same time. Take a step back and do it again. The thing about those orbs is they move slowly at first so you can step back and get ready for the next one. I find this much better than some crazy tank/dps just flying through all 3 of them without any regard to who is around them, or how much damage they are taking.

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Originally Posted by Emonik

In my static the Healers take the Orbs in all but the last phase. Time a heal to hit as the ball hits and recover the damage instantly. I've found that the orbs damage has never interrupted a cast. I usually take the hit then a step back. Precast the heal and stutterstep in the orb so the hit and the heal are at the same time. Take a step back and do it again. The thing about those orbs is they move slowly at first so you can step back and get ready for the next one. I find this much better than some crazy tank/dps just flying through all 3 of them without any regard to who is around them, or how much damage they are taking.

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If your static requires you to take them, your description is the way you should take them. It is not 100% reliable though. If a ray ever hits before the heal youll needs rez.

Granted, if you can't trust the other members of your static to do it it effectively, it may be worth the small risk handling it yourself

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Originally Posted by Vlady

I heard 4th floor was a real eye opener for healing.

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Not really it's just people derp on mechanics and make life harder for the Healers. Orbs in DF are a nightmare normally in most good groups one Healer heals the OT as they take all of one set of orbs to the face then the other one the DPS can all take one and get a heal but in DF everyone just rushes the orbs together and all take splash damage so the Healers need to over heal to keep them up.

The last phase you just need to remember to heal yourself when you get the debuff the first couple of ticks are pretty scary and the boss might hit you with something after it so you need to prioritise topping yourself off then the MT for tank busters. All while the DPS are rushing the orbs and all wanting to take a beam so they fight over it. The only other thing Healers need to worry about is the debuff not running into each other or anyone else. It wasn't as much an eye opener as Odin was when it was first released for Healers.

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Originally Posted by MXMoondoggie

Not really it's just people derp on mechanics and make life harder for the Healers. Orbs in DF are a nightmare normally in most good groups one Healer heals the OT as they take all of one set of orbs to the face then the other one the DPS can all take one and get a heal but in DF everyone just rushes the orbs together and all take splash damage so the Healers need to over heal to keep them up.

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How then do you deal with the orbs when the OT is in Quarantine? This is why we just have the healers take them.