New Areas are Empty

After early release the new zones are very empty, and I play on Balmung.

Was trying to do some fates in the churning mists and no one was there. Why do they even still have seperate instances for the new areas???

The place they NEED seperate instances is N. Thanalan, because that's where everyone's at. Its pretty ridiculous that they cut experience out of lvl 50 dungeons but left it so the older fates give the best experience rewards for the time it takes to complete them.

Also what's the deal with low level roulette giving the best experience reward. I just got done doing copperbell mines, the original, and sadly it was so ridiculously easy, and boring (because I got 3 attacks to choose from). Yet gave me the best experience reward I've seen 350k bonus roulette experience. Not to mention the experience I got from killing individual mobs.

SE you need to fix this so ppl play in the new areas you worked so hard on. Boost fate experience in the newer zones and breath life back into the areas. Also drop the experience bonus for lower dungeons and give more for higher level ones.

I visit the new areas all the time.. hunts, gathering, sidequests... roulettes always give best exp and That's why it's only once a day.

Everyone is doing fates in North thanalan

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Originally Posted by odie

Everyone is doing fates in North thanalan

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And they leveling up to 56 then move dungeons.
That's what happens when you make new places take years on end to finish with crap as hell EXP.

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Originally Posted by odie

Everyone is doing fates in North thanalan

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Yeah I noticed this too. It's the same on my server as well. The new zones are pretty much empty aside from questers and people doing hunts.

For fates people just stay in Northern Than

I don't see the new zones "dead"...not as many as some areas though. No FATE trained seem to be running through Coerthas Western Highlands. People will always find the fastest way to level and use it so no big surprise. I hear of people FATE leveling all the way to 60 in N. Thanalan...whatever works....works. SE could have foresaw this but would your really rather run over further distances to do FATES or N.Thanalan ....that is why they are doing it...and you can get hunts in at the same time.

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Originally Posted by ObeiKinstar

Also what's the deal with low level roulette giving the best experience reward. I just got done doing copperbell mines, the original, and sadly it was so ridiculously easy, and boring (because I got 3 attacks to choose from). Yet gave me the best experience reward I've seen 350k bonus roulette experience. Not to mention the experience I got from killing individual mobs.

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It is that way since 2.1

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* Bonus EXP and gil will be awarded to compensate for the discrepancy between character and duty levels. A further percentage will then be added based on character level.

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from the low roulette info text

Northern Thalanalan fates are the best to farm.

Without a relic weapon no one is motivated to grind there for hours tbh.

They are all botting in North Thanalan or spamming dungeons. It has to be really sad for the devs that worked on making the new awesome areas to see that the people in charge of balancing the exp gained after 50 messed it up and now people are just sitting in the same zone all day just like 2 years ago.

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Originally Posted by Rose-Wild

They are all botting in North Thanalan or spamming dungeons. It has to be really sad for the devs that worked on making the new awesome areas to see that the people in charge of balancing the exp gained after 50 messed it up and now people are just sitting in the same zone all day just like 2 years ago.

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The mobs in the new areas have like 5x the HP I'd expect... they are just... brutal to kill. And then poof 500 exp and you kind of look at the screen in doubt and then go "nope".

Literally was my reaction on pre-release when I tried it. Nope nope nope nope nope. 4 minutes to kill a single mob for 500 exp... no.

Was one of those weird furry eyeball things too in western coerthas.

I've noticed a lack of players in the new areas too, but I just assumed it was because the areas are large and the players are spread out. I do not believe they are instanced however.

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Originally Posted by Galaticus

I've noticed a lack of players in the new areas too, but I just assumed it was because the areas are large and the players are spread out. I do not believe they are instanced however.

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On some servers they were temporarily instanced to prevent the server from crashing if 3000 people flooded into the same zone. They'll probably remove it when they do the patch to add Alexander.

It's the 4th of July in the US. A lot of people are with family today rather than playing.

lots of gathers int he zones atm also. they might seem empty but most people can fly now so everyone is above the group and prolly moving faster than u can see.

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Originally Posted by ObeiKinstar

After early release the new zones are very empty, and I play on Balmung..

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I'm on balmung and always in new zones fishing. lots of shouts. lots of debates, convos, trolls, etc. Definitely nowhere near dead (I play from 9am to 1am daily)

Yes, no one does the fates. But lots of ppl are still using the zones.

I'm on Balmung too and I see loads of people in the new zones. Don't forget we're dealing with instanced zones, so whatever you see in one, double it.

People do fates but it's not as crowded as N Than. I'm bummed because I want to do the boss fates for achievements but no one is ever at Special Tarasque Force or the big golem one in Sea of Clouds. They need to make the Fates in the new zones give more experience to make people do those instead of just going to N Than.

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Originally Posted by SummonerSenah

People do fates but it's not as crowded as N Than. I'm bummed because I want to do the boss fates for achievements but no one is ever at Special Tarasque Force or the big golem one in Sea of Clouds. They need to make the Fates in the new zones give more experience to make people do those instead of just going to N Than.

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I found one yesterday and started it with 2 friends (the golem one you mention in the sea of clouds) . It was dying insanely slow, so i shouted, had about 6-7 people show up. If you want to do the fates, shout for them, it works.

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Originally Posted by Catwho

On some servers they were temporarily instanced to prevent the server from crashing if 3000 people flooded into the same zone. They'll probably remove it when they do the patch to add Alexander.

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I hope you're right, its kind've depressing to see the new areas so empty- the server I'm on isn't particularly populated to begin with.

well, except for hunts and mainquest, the zones offer nothing.

So no alt class will visit them unless they do some hunt bills.

Normaly i don't complain about fates BUT the exp from this fate high level area is WAY To low and no wonder area is empty SE need to fix this

Here too! Its empty!

I also dont do these fates in these new maps <,<

1st point: They give a crap amount of XP like 2% XP for needed next lv up (doing 1 lv+51 dungeon gives around 35-40% of needed XP)
2nd points: Sadly these fate bosses have big load of HP and there music is the same (annoying and loud) like in FF:ARR =.= I SOO avoid them.

Can we please get an option to turn off every battle music? At least the fate ones? >_< I really like to hear the background music from maps.

They have failed to make doing anything in the open world areas usefull so asides from gatherers there wont be alot of people there.

I have high level characters on Balmung, Ultros, and Leviathan. All 3 server's new areas are dead, you hear shouts for hunts now and then, people threatening to murder moogles now and then, but go to a FATE, there's like 1-2 people doing it. Few birds and dragons in the sky.

SE don't want you to level too fast, that's why there's now Heavenwards low level roulette and FATE exp is low.

SE likes to live in their own bubbles. I wouldn't be surprised the new patch will nerf N.T./Mor Dhona FATE exp, and Mor Dhona leve exp.

it's funny because when 2.0 was released, it was all about FATES and no one did dungeons for leveling. Then they kind of balanced it where you were rewarded for doing both. Now, it's the total opposite. 3.0 FATES are dead, everyone spamming dungeons or botting northern thal.

Odd. I see people in the new zones all the time. There are always other players questing, doing FATEs, or gathering wherever I happen to be at.

I believe it was stated in a live letter they made the new areas huge so they could add new content down the road in the HW maps. While in ARR they were very constrained on what they could add, and where, since the maps were small. This doesn't mean anything what is happening now of course.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

I found one yesterday and started it with 2 friends (the golem one you mention in the sea of clouds) . It was dying insanely slow, so i shouted, had about 6-7 people show up. If you want to do the fates, shout for them, it works.

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I'll have to give that a try.

It's been dead on Midgard for about a week ish now. This is what happens when almost the whole game is instanced, people will just sit in one spot (Idyllshire/house) and just queue, causing every other zone to be void of people. It was like this since 2.0, nothing's changed and you can clearly see SE spent a lot of time on the zones too.

Less instance everything, more open world stuff.


Also just a thought, why haven't they allowed pt members to help in a duty yet? It could even scale the more people who help you so you don't plow through it. It's supposed to be a mmo, yet forces and encourages you to do everything solo, from faster queues if solo (unless with a tank or healer), to almost every duty being solo minus the dungeons. Questing? Pretty much solo.
I'm sure if they actually added way more open world content and a reason to go out and do stuff, hunts/maps aren't cutting it, then the zones would be far from dead.

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Originally Posted by Gyson

Odd. I see people in the new zones all the time. There are always other players questing, doing FATEs, or gathering wherever I happen to be at.

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ye ofc there is people but like i said exp reward during the fate there is not even worth it at all the exp is so bad! from it

I have a feeling XP from fates in the new zones will get buffed in the future.

Yeah I'm at level 52 still getting 14400 exp from the HW fates when I clearly remember in the levels from 1-50 the amount of XP would go up each level.

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Originally Posted by Able

I have a feeling XP from fates in the new zones will get buffed in the future.

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This is Squenix we're talking about, they'll probably nerf XP from Northern Thanalan FATEs instead

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Originally Posted by SovereignAegis

The mobs in the new areas have like 5x the HP I'd expect... they are just... brutal to kill.

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I'm almost inclined to believe they are meant to be killed in groups for farming craft items. However I have no idea what the exp rate is when in a 4 man party.

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I found one yesterday and started it with 2 friends (the golem one you mention in the sea of clouds) . It was dying insanely slow, so i shouted, had about 6-7 people show up. If you want to do the fates, shout for them, it works.

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Exactly what I did for that FATE too.

Don't worry, there are other achievement hunters out there :p

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Yeah I'm at level 52 still getting 14400 exp from the HW fates when I clearly remember in the levels from 1-50 the amount of XP would go up each level.

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Thing is, are you now on your highest class? You're possibly not getting armoury bonus on these new FATEs and that might be why the EXP is lower than what you remember.

Why run fates in the new zones when they give sub-par xp? Its not that the new zones are empty its that people are taking the path of least resistance. Its human nature to do so. At 14-15k per fate in the new zones its just not worth the effort to farm fates there. N. Than is the hot spot, and rightly so. The amount of xp for the work done is pretty quick to level there. Just my opinion of course.

When over half the people in the North Thanalan are botting, I think we can safely say that even if Heavensward zones offered more XP-rewards players would still be cheating to level up with the least amount of effort.

Which zone they're doing it in is really not the issue. They won't be happy until they can press a button and hit level 60 instantly with any class, and even then they'd probably automate the button push if possible. Toggling through all those classes is rough work, after all.

Just a ? I do fates in the new areas and i get 20-25k exp off them. Of course I already have a 60 and am leveling another job. But besides that where are you guys getting the 14-15k exp from fates at. Cause like I said I get 20-25k off the new zone fates.

The zones were insanely packed during early access and the first few days after release, when people were doing quests to level their first job to 60. The moment everyone hit 60 on one job and already cleared out all the quests, the zones were essentially done except for the hunts.