Heavensward Raiding?

Can we hope for lengthier dungeons instead of short rehearsed boss battles (Coil), also would like to see more team strategic battling instead of just do "your part" of the fight!

In a game like this you kind of know what to expect in a Raid. It's going to be lots of mechanics you practice until you know them all exactly and can farm it in your sleep. There is never anything strategic about large scale Raids.

Expect? I think we would like to expect new content mechanics, not just more of the same.

Expecting more from boss fights. You must be new to this whole "MMO" thing.

Well, welcome to disappointment. You'll get nothing more than a slight twist on what we already have, maybe more of the same.

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Originally Posted by Asierid

Expecting more from boss fights. You must be new to this whole "MMO" thing.

Well, welcome to disappointment. You'll get nothing more than a slight twist on what we already have, maybe more of the same.

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Sorry to interrupt or suggest change to the usual basic routine... May I suggest that if dungeons were lengthier and more difficult with ending bosses (coil), players would not be so inclined to quit so quickly. This may add some room for challenge and strategic planning as a party, instead of just simple memorizing and hoping to get a perfect "one-shot" clear party. It may also make fights more interesting so you aren't just farming items in your sleep. lol!

I like the raid bosses honestly. I'd just be happy not to see the same shit rehashed ten more times personally. How many more times can they really do the "divebombs and dragon adds" thing?

Honestly, I really like raid boss fights too. Just like to see more time spent fighting through a dungeon, also making a strategy to beat a difficult boss. How it is can be irritating where I'm at almost clearing a certain turn in coil, but have to find players at the same exp of the fight. In example, it is more like 1 step foward 2 steps back in progressing to the win. Strategy seems missing and repitition is all I see.

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Originally Posted by Mastanight

Sorry to interrupt or suggest change to the usual basic routine...

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Which is fine, but you have to remember changes are risky. Wildstar did the hard core thing, you see where that left them. It's easier ( and safer) if we get scripted, "dull" fights so that more of the population can see content. Hell, yoshi-p has already stated that 2.xs raiding setup was not seen by the numbers they expect, so I wouldn't expect things to change much. They'll make it easier if anything.

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Originally Posted by Dante_V

I like the raid bosses honestly. I'd just be happy not to see the same shit rehashed ten more times personally. How many more times can they really do the "divebombs and dragon adds" thing?

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Considering that 3.0 will involve dragons and dragon adds...
Probably quite a few more times.
Its not a final raid without dive bombs LOL. Dive bombs means everything to yoshi hence y they always come back lol.

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Originally Posted by Yumi_umi

Considering that 3.0 will involve dragons and dragon adds...
Probably quite a few more times.
Its not a final raid without dive bombs LOL. Dive bombs means everything to yoshi hence y they always come back lol.

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ugh the new raid yltakes place inside I mechanical giant I find it hard to believe there will be many things to do with dragons.

And I'd much rather the new raids be bigger don't give a crap if it needs to be small because of duty finder MAKE THEM BIGGER SE WE DEMAND IT.

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Originally Posted by Dererk

ugh the new raid yltakes place inside I mechanical giant I find it hard to believe there will be many things to do with dragons.

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"You're fighting dragons" is basically going to be the basis for the entire Heavensward story arc.

That may change drastically within Alexander, but be ready for a sickening amount of dragons in the main story events.

What I would love to see is old school Everquest style raiding. You progress through a dungeon, filled with high level mobs, higher level and much harder hitting than your normal dungeon mobs, or even current coil trash, like, almost mini bosses by their own right, but with respawn times, so that you have to progress swiftly through the dungeon, or the respawns will catch up with you, and overwhelm you, and then at the end, a difficult boss battle. Maybe even a degree of randomness as to where/what mobs will spawn. Haven't seen anything like it since EQ. In XI you could just invis/sleep your way past everything, and in this game, just.... lol.

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Originally Posted by Zophar

What I would love to see is old school Everquest style raiding. You progress through a dungeon, filled with high level mobs, higher level and much harder hitting than your normal dungeon mobs, or even current coil trash, like, almost mini bosses by their own right, but with respawn times, so that you have to progress swiftly through the dungeon, or the respawns will catch up with you, and overwhelm you, and then at the end, a difficult boss battle. Maybe even a degree of randomness as to where/what mobs will spawn. Haven't seen anything like it since EQ. In XI you could just invis/sleep your way past everything, and in this game, just.... lol.

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Exactly, but one better way of respawning mobs would be if you proceed to a later area and double back, then respawn of only 50% of amount of mobs. Instead of a 1 track layout, there should be a purpose to double back. Example would be a key to open a earlier found door, but not necessary.