Getting worn out in battle.

So I had a thought (shocker!) anyway a feature I think would be neat is seeing your character getting worn down when said stat goes below a set %. For instance, when a healer is nearly out of MP they could be bent over a little attempting to catch their breath, or when HP is really low maybe on their knees from exhaustion. The best example I could think of is FFX, when your HP was below half you were slumped over and when it was really low you were on your knees not even able to stand. Cool concept I think. Thoughts?

Nice but wouldn't be worth it since you're always moving around in a fight most of the time and moving cancels out any other animation you were doing before that.

Nice cosmetics, but totally unpractical in Battle...

Yeah I like that kind of details !!

At the very minimum, they should like breath faster or deeper. When running they could do it in a clumsy looking way but still move as fast as normal.

I don't think most people are paying that much attention to detail during combat when they have other things to watch out for.. It'd be an addition that goes largely unnoticed by 99% of the player base. What they could do is implement a /panting emote.. Then you'll see a bunch of players in cities bent over panting :D

Camera zoomed back to max for any real fight. If my hp 8s low that's not the time to zoom in and take a selfie when on the verge if wiping.

Aesthetic effects like this would go ignored I'm a game where your virtually required to place camera at max distance and wipes usually happen I'm a matter of seconds.

Ain't nobody got time fo dat!

Makes no sense to be on your knees, yet still running at full speed dodging the next AoE.

Would be cool, but either the animation transitions would be super weird or they'd need to make new animations for the slumped over version of every race for every job... which is a bit much for a QoL thing like this. I'd love for it to be a thing, though. ):

I like the concept, but it would be a much more massive undertaking than it would be worth I think. Attention to detail in animations is always nice, but it might be gilding the lily in this case.

Alot of character movement details were removed from 1.0, like character weighted physics, in order to accommodate lower performance machines.

And yes it would look very awkward for BLMs to be slumping after every flare or tanks to be on the floor after every large hit from bosses.

This ain't a turn based game.

So many nay-Sayers lol sheesh. It was just an idea and just examples of ideas, how about the animation you have if you lose steps of faith, you want them to take that out and just have you standing there =/

Rather than making this in-battle, I would like to see it implemented after you [SPRINT].

At the end of the sprint or the run, you would bend down a bit, pant a bit and then come back up again.

But nobody has yet to mention the weird transition of all emotes from [EMOTE] -> Normal pose.

Like... you're laughing out loud, bending over and evertyhing, then you just stood up into a wooden position with a serious face.

That's quite a mood swing.

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Originally Posted by Riepah

Makes no sense to be on your knees, yet still running at full speed dodging the next AoE.

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reduced runspeed while worn out, like Heavy

as a Out of combat thing it would work nicely

for in combat i would love to see out characters slouch when asleep or other fun visuals

No player input and low TP could trigger a panting/recovering animation.

Would be a nice little touch, showing characters taking a quick chance to catch their breath when a boss jumps away or whatever.

I think its a good idea for HP and some more status effects(something similar already happens for sleep). Maybe not so much MP since burning it happens regularly. If tp was used,you'd have to take into account sprint since that immediately puts you at 0 tp. It feels they scaled down the reactions in combat a bit compared to 2.0 beta, and it would be cool to see that changed back so that we aren't so stiff.

If it were up to me, I'd probably use the neutral battle stance as the one to work with. Nothing like getting on the knees, but a change in expression, poise, and sway can show the character looking fatigued, yet still in it.

Outside of combat i would like to see the exhausted look from steps of faith as a emote, looks better than /stagger IMO.

Nice thought, but usually by the end of battle you're all Healed and MPd up. I'd kind of like to see it anyway, because there isn't really an indicator that your health is getting low (other than your actual health bar), and more than once i've died in the middle of a quest or leve because i wasn't looking at my health.

"Almost done with this leve, can finally turn them all in for some decent ex- *return to mor dhona?*"

FFXV did something similar when you or the NPCs hit the secondary HP bar - it effected the moving animation as much as the standing (bent over, holding stomach, breathing hard, kinda staggeringish) - it would just be without the slowed movement speed that came with the animation, for FFXIV's case.

I think it's doable - just a standing/running animation swap (from standing straight to staggered/slumped) for the upper body in the least. WHM doing a BLM skill (sleep, etc) or SCH doing a WHM skill swaps class animations when casting, etc, already. Sprint does this already (as someone mentioned, which made me remember xD). If done right, I don't think it would impede movement but still give the aesthetic of struggle..

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Originally Posted by Averax

Nice thought, but usually by the end of battle you're all Healed and MPd up. I'd kind of like to see it anyway, because there isn't really an indicator that your health is getting low (other than your actual health bar), and more than once i've died in the middle of a quest or leve because i wasn't looking at my health.

"Almost done with this leve, can finally turn them all in for some decent ex- *return to mor dhona?*"

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Hmmm... I have to agree - most healers won't let you stay too low on health for too long - it might bounce the animations too much - especially tanks getting constant burst damage (Odin trial...).
Though it might be a nice aesthetic in 24-man raids, seeing people in and out of your alliance staggering about nearby or in the distance. xD

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Originally Posted by Saseal

Hmmm... I have to agree - most healers won't let you stay too low on health for too long - it might bounce the animations too much - especially tanks getting constant burst damage (Odin trial...).
Though it might be a nice aesthetic in 24-man raids, seeing people in and out of your alliance staggering about nearby or in the distance. xD

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Not sure I understand the problem of the first point, I mean isn't instant changes to idle battle stance already a thing you can set up in config?

We already do the panting thin in steps of faith when we lose.
Also if u really want to have ur characters fall on their knees incombat, try doing LB3 as a healer or bard.

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Originally Posted by Kallera

Not sure I understand the problem of the first point, I mean isn't instant changes to idle battle stance already a thing you can set up in config?

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Well, imagine the stagger animation in the middle of a battle with healer(s) around - IE in a dungeon/trial/raid, at least. If, for say, the tank drops below 50% HP and they get the staggering animation, they'll stagger for a second before being healed by the healer - which drops the animation back to normal. If the tank constantly gets walloped (debuff stacks, burst damage skills from the enemy, holding a huge mob pull, etc) and constantly healed, they would be in and out of the stagger animation constantly.

If that makes any sense o_oa
Unless I'm completely misinterpreting your original post...

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Originally Posted by Izsha

Ain't nobody got time fo dat!

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All that aside, a panting emote would be fun, for about 10 seconds until some sleazebag figures our how to abuse it...
#ohnonotagain

:)

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Originally Posted by Felis

reduced runspeed while worn out, like Heavy

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Given most players thoughts on "Heavy" I just don't see that being popular with players. It'd be like saying "Oh hi guys, remember that really annoying and pointless thing that we do to you when you're high level and travelling past lower level enemies you have no intention of engaging? Well, now we're gonna do that to you during battles in raids, just for effect, when you're character get's tired..."

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Originally Posted by Chihaya

Alot of character movement details were removed from 1.0,
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This ain't a turn based game.

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Many would say that it's a shame it's not.

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Originally Posted by Saseal

Well, imagine the stagger animation in the middle of a battle with healer(s) around - IE in a dungeon/trial/raid, at least. If, for say, the tank drops below 50% HP and they get the staggering animation, they'll stagger for a second before being healed by the healer - which drops the animation back to normal. If the tank constantly gets walloped (debuff stacks, burst damage skills from the enemy, holding a huge mob pull, etc) and constantly healed, they would be in and out of the stagger animation constantly.

If that makes any sense o_oa
Unless I'm completely misinterpreting your original post...

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I think I get it, however I can transition into other animation movements a lot faster either manually or with configuration, looks goofy ninja sliding by tapping the arrow keys but otherwise no real technical issues. When a reaction occurs seems to be controllable to an extent too, given that we do not flinch on hits that occur too close together.

Just wondering what the difference would be between the two. Since the tank isn't the only one in motion. :)