Hi all,
I'm not sure, but I seem to recall Fernehalwes saying somewhere that Elezen & Hyur relationships were taboo lore wise. Does anyone else recall this as well?
More importantly, and the reason I've made the thread is, why is this the case? I never caught the reason why it was taboo.
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OK, I found the reason. It turns out all the races are kinda at each other:
http://gamerescape.com/2014/10/22/fan-fest-2014-interview-with-michael-christopher-koji-fox/Quote:
A: Some of the lore makes it sounds like the conflict between the Hyur and Elezen got pretty heated while others make it sound like a long standing tension. What was the extent of those hostilities?
MCKF: I touched on this a little bit today in the live stream and there was a question about relationships between the races and crossbreeding. A lot of it doesn’t happen because while we have all these races living together in Eorzea, there’s this tension between them. That’s there because they have these histories of fighting for a long time and then not really making up, but agreeing to disagree and living together because it’s better than living by our self and being more susceptible to Garlean attacks or whatever. We work together because we have a common enemy type of thing. Most of the races don’t really like each other and it”s gone on through multiple Eras. There are times when Eorzea has been more populated by one race over another and there will be conflict there. With the Hyur and Elezen, that’s very recent. In the sixth astral era, Elezen migrated in and in that era they were like “we’re the first ones here!” even though they weren’t, but they were the first at the beginning of the sixth astral era and they settled and of course the pesky Hyur who are everywhere come in and the Elezen are like “oh my god we left you that whole continent up there why are you here!” and the Lalafell come in and you have these cycles of clashing and moving part and that gets ingrained in their society and their racial cultures. There’s always these power struggles, you’ll have times when the Lalafell rise for whatever reason and they’l side with one group and then turn on another group and that’s one of the reasons there’s not a lot of interracial relationships because even though they’re living in the same towns it’s like well yeah… but you’re an Elezen.
F: I can just imagine some young Elezen bringing home a Hyur woman and the Grandma going “Why couldn’t you have found a nice Elezen girl!”
MCKF: There’s a lot of that going on. Like i mentioned in the stream, in the future we’ll have some characters that are half one race and half another and we’ll see how they’re treated in society and quests with that.
Elezen & Hyur Forbidden Love?
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04-01-2015, 07:01 AMNovaUltimatumElezen & Hyur Forbidden Love?
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04-02-2015, 07:59 PMExtreme
didnt know this game had a realistic racist system >_<
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04-02-2015, 09:31 PMLineageRazor
We keep getting these tidbits from Fern and others regarding racism and taboo romances - but in the actual game, these things are not very apparent at all. There's many instances of cross-race infatuations and relationships in-game that no one bats an eyelash to. Urianger and Moenbryda, Severian and W'nahja, Longhaft and the twins, just to name a few. And this is to say nothing of the complete lack of restrictions on marriages between adventurers (though adventurers seem to get a free pass against prejudices and taboos in general; even the most deranged hater of Duskwights or Keepers of the Moon are just as cordial to those types of adventurers as others).
Admittedly, I can't offhand think of any Elezen/Hyur pairings, so a prejudice against that may be on the table, but if there's a taboo against cross-racial pairings in general, a person playing the game but not reading the forums would never know. -
04-02-2015, 10:12 PMMholitoThe couple in the Wanderer's Palace (Hard) quest, had to flee their home because of their interracial relationship.Quote:
Originally Posted by LineageRazor
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04-04-2015, 07:09 AMNovaUltimatumWhat races were they? I honestly can't remember that quest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mholito
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04-04-2015, 07:21 AMmyaheleHighlander and perhaps a keeper miqote?Quote:
Originally Posted by NovaUltimatum
As for other npcs in an interracial relationship:
*F'llamin and Niellesfren
* The midlander with the elezen from the ixali dialy quests
Although all the other interracial pairings we have seen are either prostitutes or just there for a sex and nothing long-term, so I don't think they really count -
04-04-2015, 07:22 AMMholitoThey were a Miqo'te Keeper of the Moon, and a Hyur Highlander.Quote:
Originally Posted by NovaUltimatum
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04-06-2015, 12:33 PMWadoka
Consider Lucia...
Hyuran ears, check. But her height; her neck; the way she stands...
Could be somethin' going on there ;) -
04-06-2015, 01:22 PMmyaheleIt might be that because that's how female Garleans look like. There's speculation that she may be a Garlean runaway similar to Cid:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wadoka
http://38.media.tumblr.com/8f5a80adb...ikio6_1280.png
And also also this:
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04-06-2015, 01:40 PMZethie
So if they do the half race characters even if their npcs.. A thought occurred to me.. Are lala's even possible to be with any other race? I think it would be interesting to see a mix of lalafell and elezan or lalafell and roe
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04-07-2015, 01:51 AMRisvertasashi
http://i.imgur.com/MkdaJF7.png
After this, I've wondered why we never got a mixed option for chargen. The most popular option there was basically catpeople... which we have... with mixed coming in second.
And, I don't know. Even if there's some social stigmas (like in real life), I have a hard time thinking racial mixing wouldn't happen (a la RL again...). Unless we're all more accurately different species and mixed heritage is a biological impossibility, anyway. -
04-07-2015, 02:00 AMMyrhn
A lala with a tail!! Do it SE!
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04-07-2015, 03:43 AMLeowildeWell, there's plenty of male lalafells who woo hyur/miqo'te females. So I should think it's possible. Somehow.. I've still yet to see any woo roes though. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Zethie
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04-07-2015, 04:58 AMRisvertasashi
I would be more curious to know how Miqo'te-anything would be done. With most racial mixes, it would just be a matter at meeting halfway with the proportions or other things. e.g., half elf, ears that aren't quite hyur but aren't quite knife ears either. OTOH, with Miqo'te, you've either got the cat ears or you don't, not so simple a matter of going halfway....
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04-07-2015, 08:23 PMDalvy
Interracial relations certainly do exist--there are lalas that skirtchase after hyur and miqo'te girls.
The biology behind some race combinations would certainly be rather complex. I can imagine that most handling children would be born dead (or born with some major disability) because of how different their parents' body structure is. However, SE might take the usual fantasy route of humans being the most compatible with all races.
If halfling children were possible for all races, well consider all those miqo'te prostitutes in Ul'dah and Limsa ... One night with a roe and she's giving birth to a tail-less furred monster a few months down the road. If there aren't homebrew techniques to prevent that. -
04-07-2015, 09:58 PMNovaUltimatumInteresting. I imagine the Au'Ra are the closest example we have to this succeeding.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalvy
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04-07-2015, 10:58 PMMercuryDNot to be "that guy" but they, I imagine, had two reasons for being forced out: they were interracial and same-sex.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mholito
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04-08-2015, 12:18 AMMholitoThey only talk about getting in trouble because of the interracial relationship. They don't bring any attention to the same-sex relationship at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by MercuryD
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04-09-2015, 08:34 AMZythroneEars but no tail maybe... or tail with no ears?Quote:
Originally Posted by Risvertasashi
Then again, there is a Hyur in the Gold Saucer entrance hall referring to a Roegadyn as his father so unless he isn't his biological father it's possible actual hybrids are not a thing... at least not physically. -
04-09-2015, 11:36 AMExodus-EOr, as with genetics, there's a chance that the offspring may be pure of either parent's race, or a hybrid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zythrone
Could be wrong, though... -
04-09-2015, 12:00 PMOoshima
How does a Roe breed with a Lalafell, anyone?
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04-09-2015, 10:32 PMLineageRazorWell, according to Discworld's Casanunda, all a lover of diminuitive size needs is a stepladder...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ooshima
I finally remembered an Elezen/Hyur pairing - and, like the other pairings I mentioned, there is absolutely no astonishment, or rebukement, or general feelings of guilt about it (though, admittedly, the pairing is troubled for other reasons):Quote:
Originally Posted by LineageRazor
Detective Briardien and Reporter/Terrorist Ellie from the Hildebrand quests. -
04-14-2015, 06:46 AMCGMidlanderWoah, I never thought to look under there!Quote:
Originally Posted by myahele
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04-14-2015, 09:21 AMPArcher
Just because you can mate with something doesn't mean you two can produce offspring.
I'd imagine all the Seekers in the cities are able to ply their trade without the worry of children...unless a lonely Tia happens to wander by... -
04-14-2015, 09:11 PMEulI've seen doujin about Roe x Lala but in Boys Love version a.k.a Yaoi and this responds kinda makes me chuckle :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Ooshima
WARNING, NSFW in spoiler.
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04-15-2015, 12:51 AMliliruluDo you really want a serious answer? Well, even if you didn't here I go!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ooshima
One obvious reason off the top of my head is Roe are generally very small in the pants (and in the case of male lalafell/fem roe then look up a picture of a tiny hotdog in an amphitheater and you have your answer) so it'd allow for non-lethal penetration of their partner. Though penetration isn't needed for successful impregnation (all you need then is a turkey baster and a dream).
As far as child birth, the child could just be large lalafellin kid or just be born normal sized for the mother. Though I am left wondering the success rate of caesarians in Eorzea.
As far as male lala/fem roe if you look up a hotdog in an amphitheater you'd have your answer.
I'm not sorry.