Square-Enix: For Future Race Polls

So a few years back you did a poll on what people wanted to see as a new race.
These were the results:
http://i.imgur.com/MkdaJF7.png

What ticked me off is that you used Viera as an example for Mammalian Demi-Beastmen which made everyone instantly believe Viera was going to be the new race if they voted enough for it so they all picked that option.

That was a biiiig mistake on your end and completely obliterated the polls making Mammalian Demi-Beastmen the most voted option followed by mixed races and more clans.

I know Au Ra are going to be the new race for this expansion and I couldn't be happier with them. But please, PLEASE RE-evaluate what you use as examples for newer polls. I voted for Mammalian Beastmen hoping Gnolls (like FFXI Gnolls) would be in the near future as a possible playable race. But when you used Viera as an example; that option would instantly win by a land slide and so it did.


I also hope Viera never get added to FFXIV as we don't need any more mammalian like races along with Miqo'te/Cat People.

By that token, why did they even broach the concept of a Mi'qote-Lalafell hybrid race. That's just gross

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Originally Posted by MrLeonheart

By that token, why did they even broach the concept of a Mi'qote-Lalafell hybrid race. That's just gross

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Kitten people.

Bunny people are lame.

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Originally Posted by MrLeonheart

By that token, why did they even broach the concept of a Mi'qote-Lalafell hybrid race. That's just gross

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Could have been worse >_> Roelafell

Interbreeding imo means 4.0 expansion comes out with a very in-depth character creator like a Black Desert / Skyrim, and clans while existing are not restricting.

I guess it really doesn't lol, but it would be one way to introduce interracial races. could use something like a counter of unique traits, so certain aspects require a certain purity amount (to keep an image and semblance to the original races). Though you could have a penta-race'd created character it couldn't have say some classic identifiers like scales while also at the same time have a miqote furry tail, a roe nose, and the height of a lalafell as the cost of these classic items would put you over budget. But you could have a fuzzy scaley dragon Au'qote (like Dark Souls Priscilla) and be of medium height.

I'm not really a huge fan of Viera either, just feels too cheesy to playing the sex sells card (SE's renditions are skimpy and reminiscent of "playboy/casino" girl, generally at least). Although, if they made a crazy detailed character system (probably have to drop the PS3 then) you might be able to make a tall Miq'ote and perhaps SE will add in more variations due to variant breeding (some way to unlock new looks even? Like a Family tree - rounded or rabbit-ish miqo'te ears). Just make Fantasia obtainable in game or at least once in a while, so it doesn't feel like each introduction of variations is a beg of Fantasia payment ("you get one once a year on your account anniversary, of a full year subscription basis").

To think they didn't even follow the results of that poll after all...

Reptilian/horned race was on 4th place after mammalian demi-beastmen and more customizable options for the existing races. I'm happy for Au'ras too but... They chose the 4th place? SE's mind was already set on it I would assume and the poll was there to look pretty. :(

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=Q...n%3B994%3B1242


has to be quina nothin else :P

I voted for mixed heritage. It's the big lumbering unanswered question in any game with multiple races - what happens when you get mixed parentage? There are already countless numbers of mixed race pairings in the game, and while we may not bear witness to the act it's probably safe to assume they're sexually active.

Mi'qote and Lalafell children would be interesting. I imagine them as Lalafell with cat ears and a tail. Roe and Mi'qote children would likely be an abomination though. I understand why we'll probably never see them added to the game, but it would at the very least be interesting to hear stories of mixed-parentage in the game lore. Shame too... I wanted my Miqolalas...

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

I voted for mixed heritage. It's the big lumbering unanswered question in any game with multiple races - what happens when you get mixed parentage? There are already countless numbers of mixed race pairings in the game, and while we may not bear witness to the act it's probably safe to assume they're sexually active.

Mi'qote and Lalafell children would be interesting. I imagine them as Lalafell with cat ears and a tail. Roe and Mi'qote children would likely be an abomination though. I understand why we'll probably never see them added to the game, but it would at the very least be interesting to hear stories of mixed-parentage in the game lore. Shame too... I wanted my Miqolalas...

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eiwwww lol a roe and a lala sexually active just sounds like somethin some1 should be jailed for :P

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Originally Posted by Hito-Shura

To think they didn't even follow the results of that poll after all...

Reptilian/horned race was on 4th place after mammalian demi-beastmen and more customizable options for the existing races. I'm happy for Au'ras too but... They chose the 4th place? SE's mind was already set on it I would assume and the poll was there to look pretty. :(

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I can see why they went with 4th place. We already have Miqo'te so another mammalian race is sort of redundant. Adding new clans/tribes to existing races would probably be seen as lazy and couldn't really be consdiered new races. Mixed races opens up a whole host of things you have to do as far as character creation. I'd think that it would take just as much effort to do that as it would to build an entirely new race from the ground up.

They may have already had the Au Ra in mind and wanted to see how they'd be received. *shrug* The poll doesn't say "the winning race will be added to the game" or anything of the sort, so it's not really misleading.

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Originally Posted by Spawnie

eiwwww lol a roe and a lala sexually active just sounds like somethin some1 should be jailed for :P

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I'm sure there's a fanfic for it somewhere. xD

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Originally Posted by Spawnie

ewwww lol a roe and a lala sexually active just sounds like somethin some1 should be jailed for :P

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And yet these pairings already exist canon within the game currently. It's not as if they're showing them mating, so it would be interesting to see the result that mixed parentage would bring.

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Originally Posted by Obysuca

Could have been worse >_> Roelafell

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Dwarves with pointy ears and dark noses.

Really guys, I think you're just assuming the worst

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

...it would be interesting to see the result that mixed parentage would bring.

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...In Soviet Ishgard, Chocobo breed you!

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

I voted for mixed heritage. It's the big lumbering unanswered question in any game with multiple races - what happens when you get mixed parentage? There are already countless numbers of mixed race pairings in the game, and while we may not bear witness to the act it's probably safe to assume they're sexually active.

Mi'qote and Lalafell children would be interesting. I imagine them as Lalafell with cat ears and a tail. Roe and Mi'qote children would likely be an abomination though. I understand why we'll probably never see them added to the game, but it would at the very least be interesting to hear stories of mixed-parentage in the game lore. Shame too... I wanted my Miqolalas...

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As a Mi'qote I would never want to have kids with a Lalafell because they would probably come out really deformed.

The easy answer for S-E is to just have it like human-elf pairings in Dragon Age: the resulting offspring simply appear human. In fact that would line up with what we already see in-game; mixed-race pairings but no babies or adults with characteristics of multiple races.

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

I can see why they went with 4th place. We already have Miqo'te so another mammalian race is sort of redundant. Adding new clans/tribes to existing races would probably be seen as lazy and couldn't really be consdiered new races. Mixed races opens up a whole host of things you have to do as far as character creation. I'd think that it would take just as much effort to do that as it would to build an entirely new race from the ground up.

They may have already had the Au Ra in mind and wanted to see how they'd be received. *shrug* The poll doesn't say "the winning race will be added to the game" or anything of the sort, so it's not really misleading.

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You bring up really good points that I can agree on but there is just one thing though... I still see the Au'Ra race as a lazy addition to the game, much more than what different physique builds and options for the current races would have been. Essentially, the male Au'ras use almost the same model as the Elezens while the female Au'ras are a mix of miqo'te and hyur. In my opinion, a new race was not even necessary as we currently have all the character types in the current races and people seem mostly proud of the characters they have. I think it would have been more profitable to allow the players to improve the appearance of the character they love already instead of implementing a new race that 50% of all the servers will switch to in 3.0 just because they get all the new customizable options.

As for what is redundant and what is not... Something is redundant only if the players think its redundant I would say. The players in this case wanted bunny people so I doubt they would have been seen as redundant considering the demand.

Yoshida said himself that they did not really regard the poll's results much because they were aware writing "Viera" as an example biased the votes. Personally I would have voted for a full-animal race like Red XIII, but alas, the option wasn't even there (and SE said already that they wish to keep their playable races "humanoid" to differ from WoW). Oh well... Now my hopes lie in that whatever they do next, it will have androgynous males. I need me a girly-looking boy that isn't a chubby chibi.

I want a Bird Race with wings on their back who stand like humans.

They wouldn't need a flying mount they can just fly themselves.

Other than that I would like the wolfman, would make sense because of the lone wolf, it could be where he came from.


But if you guys make rabbit girls, cool cause they will be known as the new
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20070505084313

with bunny ears.

I just don't see a race of bunny men that to me sounds weird.

You know you want to see it.... bunny-lizard-dragon people ;)

In all seriousness though if I would pick one I would want some sort of lupine race. Awrooooooooooooooooooo!

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

And yet these pairings already exist canon within the game currently. It's not as if they're showing them mating, so it would be interesting to see the result that mixed parentage would bring.

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Mixed race pairings probably result in nothing, I assume the races are genetically incompatible.

Eorzea doesn't strike me as the most populated place, five races finding each other attractive but unable to create children together would explain that.
Like how Hyur being everywhere and Miqote having no real homeland of their own ties in nicely with the fact most adventurers are Hyur or Miqote.

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Originally Posted by Jandor

Mixed race pairings probably result in nothing, I assume the races are genetically incompatible.

Eorzea doesn't strike me as the most populated place, five races finding each other attractive but unable to create children together would explain that.
Like how Hyur being everywhere and Miqote having no real homeland of their own ties in nicely with the fact most adventurers are Hyur or Miqote.

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There are NPCs with family members of different races. It doesn't seem to happen often, but it appears it can. Sisipu of the fishing guild comes to mind with her Roegadyn uncle. Genetically, they're compatible. And finding attractive? You can't go far without finding an NPC trying to hook up with a Miqo'te.

I haven't done the fishing guild quest line, is the Roe her blood uncle, or more a family friend of her parents that's referred to fondly as an "uncle"?

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Originally Posted by Jandor

Mixed race pairings probably result in nothing, I assume the races are genetically incompatible.

Eorzea doesn't strike me as the most populated place, five races finding each other attractive but unable to create children together would explain that.
Like how Hyur being everywhere and Miqote having no real homeland of their own ties in nicely with the fact most adventurers are Hyur or Miqote.

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Pretty sure there are hybrids out there. The NPC that accompanies the leader of the Temple Knights in Dreams of Ice comes to mind for example, she has an elezen body but Hyur ears. Using Earth's genetic rules is probably wrong as an example, but as far as our knowledge goes, Eorzea's work the same as in inter-species pairings are incompatible (or generate sterile offsprings), while interracial pairings can breed.

http://cdn.guildwork.net/albums/imag...39135decad.jpg

I was so hoping it was going to be Viera, Would have bought 5 Phantasia potions. But I bought a Bunny Crown and Glamoured it to every class.

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Originally Posted by Bluevann

Pretty sure there are hybrids out there. The NPC that accompanies the leader of the Temple Knights in Dreams of Ice comes to mind for example, she has an elezen body but Hyur ears. Using Earth's genetic rules is probably wrong as an example, but as far as our knowledge goes, Eorzea's work the same as in inter-species pairings are incompatible (or generate sterile offsprings), while interracial pairings can breed.

http://cdn.guildwork.net/albums/imag...39135decad.jpg

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She is a pureblood Garlean, I don't think it count as hybrid