Mysterious Doors

So I was hunting mobs and Fates for my Atma relic in North Shroud the other day when I noticed something odd in The Gelmoran Ruins near Proud Creek.

There were a pair of doors in the ruins that were half opened and seemingly lead underground. Now I use to explore and map different areas frequently and I don't recall ever seeing those particular doors before.

How ever they did give of an extreme Mines of Moria (Lord of the Rings) feeling when I was looking at them.

Being as I was still a fresh, low level, scrub when 1.0 ended do any of you seasoned 1.0 veterans have any idea if it could be linked to any of the North Shroud Gelmora Dungeons from way back when?

It may be the entrance to where Tam-Tara deepcroft dungeon used to be or thousand maws. You could check here.

Nope, no reference to the area in either 1.0 or 2.0's North Shroud land marks. I almost remember that much of Gelmora with the Exceptions of Tam-Tara and Toto-Rak was lost prior to the calamity and like many of the allagan and sil'dihn ruins, the calamity's destruction freed many lost and fabled ruins from the ground they were sealed in.

Could this be a possible new dungeon for a 3.0 War of the Magi Arc? Is it just a "Cool Spot" that has no relevance? Or could this allude to a much more sinister place locked beneath the Shroud? What I found MOST odd was that the doors were already half opened. Which means something has gone in, or worse, come out.

Well these doors are here since 2.0 and since then we don't have any clue on what lies beyond.

I know this is North Shroud - So don't hate on me for that.

However, if anyone has beaten HM of Amadpor Keep, I am expecting either an extreme mode of AK or that it ties into something else.

Don't ask for spoiler, not providing.

well, Toto-rak was a prison, and Tam-Tara was a grave yard. Maybe this is the actual entrance to The City of Gelmora. After all there was a mention of a gelmoran ruin in 1.0's North Shroud being the only above ground Gelmoran Structure. Perhaps these doors are the entrance. Would make since to tie in with Amdapoor in some ways since Amdapoor was partially responsible for the Flood that turned the Elementals against the Enlightened Races. So maybe the elzen in the South Shroud discovered something in the underground area that needs us to go in via the North Entrance.

From what I can see through the Crack it's very clearly leading to some kind of underground passage since It's a cave the door is on any way.

There seems to be a few areas where I'd assumed there would be dungeons (Issom Har being one of them)

Those doors are most likely a place-holder for a Gelmorran instance at some point in the future (If they ever decide to make one, it's useful to have the architecture already there. I speculated on this back in the spring, will have to find the thread). Remember that the current marker used on maps can and usually is re-adjusted once an instance is added. For example, pre-2.5 the Keeper of the Lake map marker is near the fallen Agrius, but in 2.5 it's moved to where the instance "entrance" is instead. My assumption that, when the Gelmorran Ruins becomes its own dungeon (if ever), the marker will be adjusted as such.

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Originally Posted by Velox

Those doors are most likely a place-holder for a Gelmorran instance at some point in the future (If they ever decide to make one, it's useful to have the architecture already there.

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This makes sense to me, almost every new dungeon added since 2.0 has had some kind of presence in the over world from before they were instances. The only exception to this I think is Hullbreaker. I imagine they tried to cover all their bases and included many "mystery doors" all over the world for the many different places that could becomes dungeons.

Back in 1.0, the Mun Tuy Cellars were located in a section of Gelmorran ruins in North Shroud. The ruins themselves spanned a good portion of the southern section of the area, and part would have been under where the ruins are now. My guess is that they relocated to the area between the East and West Shroud sometime around the Calamity, as the old cellars had been overrun and abandoned before 1.0's start.

There are suspicious doors all over the game world acting as placeholders for possible future content. The two most intriguing at present (other than the fairly obvious Gates of Judgement) are the Boulder Downs in Coerthas and the Dalamud fragment in The Burning Wall (which most had previously assumed to be the Final Coil entrance) as both have very clear paths running into them that are currently blocked.

I would imagine, as others have said, that this particular door is a placeholder for a possible Gelmorran dungeon of some kind. I'm personally hoping that the expansion will expand the current game world as much as add new regions, much like FFXI did so perhaps we'll see Gelmora open after 3.0.

Castrum Oriens seems to be one of those types of door/gates that are there for future content, I'm guessing we'll storm Oriens in 3.? or 4.0

Where are these doors? I can't seem to find anything at Gelmorra ruins ; ;

There is a half open door all the way at the top I found, past the Ixali camp thing...

Anyway, whatever they do with this, PLEASE MAKE IT OPEN WORLD ;^;

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Originally Posted by Meier

Where are these doors? I can't seem to find anything at Gelmorra ruins ; ;

There is a half open door all the way at the top I found, past the Ixali camp thing...

Anyway, whatever they do with this, PLEASE MAKE IT OPEN WORLD ;^;

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That's the doors. It''s about parallel to the Ixal Camp.

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Originally Posted by Alberel

There are suspicious doors all over the game world acting as placeholders for possible future content. The two most intriguing at present (other than the fairly obvious Gates of Judgement) are the Boulder Downs in Coerthas and the Dalamud fragment in The Burning Wall (which most had previously assumed to be the Final Coil entrance) as both have very clear paths running into them that are currently blocked.

I would imagine, as others have said, that this particular door is a placeholder for a possible Gelmorran dungeon of some kind. I'm personally hoping that the expansion will expand the current game world as much as add new regions, much like FFXI did so perhaps we'll see Gelmora open after 3.0.

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Final Coil is in The Burning Wall. That's been confirmed. Big question is What the heck is the ruin in Courthas?

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Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace

Final Coil is in The Burning Wall. That's been confirmed. Big question is What the heck is the ruin in Courthas?

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It's not though, Final Coil is actually entered via Northern Thanalan... the Burning Wall wreckage is currently entirely unused and inaccessible. If you go there you can see the path that enters the Dalamud fragment but there are some conveniently placed crystals on the road stopping us going there...

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Originally Posted by Alberel

It's not though, Final Coil is actually entered via Northern Thanalan... the Burning Wall wreckage is currently entirely unused and inaccessible. If you go there you can see the path that enters the Dalamud fragment but there are some conveniently placed crystals on the road stopping us going there...

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It is explained in the quest that we are unable to find a way to enter the last two internment hulks so, instead, we try to enter them through the aetherial curent that brought us to Dalamud's Talons at the end of the first two hulks. The actual Hulks are in The Burning Wall and The Singing Shards.

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Originally Posted by Mholito

It is explained in the quest that we are unable to find a way to enter the last two internment hulks so, instead, we try to enter them through the aetherial curent that brought us to Dalamud's Talons at the end of the first two hulks. The actual Hulks are in The Burning Wall and The Singing Shards.

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So then that just leaves Salt Strand and Boulder Downs as possible dungeons in 3.X.

The Salt Strand is just where part of Mega Flare hit and crystalized itself and surrounding salt, nothing special about it or connecting it to Coil much.

The remaining oddities I've noticed are the strange ruins in court has, the doors in N Shroud, the underground cavern in s shroud, the Sil'dih ruins in C Thanalan, The Mythril Mines in N Thanalan, and finally The Garlok's layer in E Lanosca (possibly not since Garlok is the E LA Noscan S-Rank hunt)

There is also the Floating City of Nym that is a possible new dungeon (especially considering the theme of the expansion ).

I knew I forgot something. Thanks. I'm personally looking forward to finding the truth about The War of the Magi myself.

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Originally Posted by Mholito

It is explained in the quest that we are unable to find a way to enter the last two internment hulks so, instead, we try to enter them through the aetherial curent that brought us to Dalamud's Talons at the end of the first two hulks. The actual Hulks are in The Burning Wall and The Singing Shards.

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Is it actually confirmed that the third hulk is under the burning wall, or have people just assumed that? It seems rather odd to me that they would design an obvious entrance to the fragment, complete with a marked path on the map, and then not use it... It was actually rather pathetic watching that scout report that he could find no entrance there when he was stood right next to it.

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Originally Posted by Alberel

Is it actually confirmed that the third hulk is under the burning wall, or have people just assumed that? It seems rather odd to me that they would design an obvious entrance to the fragment, complete with a marked path on the map, and then not use it... It was actually rather pathetic watching that scout report that he could find no entrance there when he was stood right next to it.

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Yes when you do the quest to enter the final coil you have to check these two places but can't find a way to enter there so they decided to warp through the crystal in north Than. There is an entrance, but no way to access it, too much corrupted crystals on the way.

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Originally Posted by lololink

Yes when you do the quest to enter the final coil you have to check these two places but can't find a way to enter there so they decided to warp through the crystal in north Than. There is an entrance, but no way to access it, too much corrupted crystals on the way.

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If you read the FATE quests tooltip in that area you will find out that Mirror Knights have been coming out of that entrance.
http://puu.sh/fJGtz/b010ee60a4.png
So it isn't blocked.

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Originally Posted by lololink

There is also the Floating City of Nym that is a possible new dungeon (especially considering the theme of the expansion ).

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Definitely. If you go there, on the far left side of the map you can even see a road that purposely leads up to a blocked gate going into the ruins. It just has to be another placeholder in case SE decides to roll with it for some reason in the future.

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Originally Posted by Vejjiegirl

If you read the FATE quests tooltip in that area you will find out that Mirror Knights have been coming out of that entrance. So it isn't blocked.

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I'm not sure if you've noticed, but Mirror Knights have wings that they can use to fly over the blockade.

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Originally Posted by Mholito

I'm not sure if you've noticed, but Mirror Knights have wings that they can use to fly over the blockade.

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Here is something from FF12, I know they more than likely have a completely different lore in FF14 but it seems in FF12 they were unable to fly please note the area I have in bold:

"Being a high rank of bagoly, the armored, flying weapons of war, so effective in combat against enemy soldiers it was honored with knighthood. However, with the advent of airships, the need for its presence on the battlefield decreased, and the old flights were disbanded. Though not disposed of in light of their past contributions, these once-proud warriors of the sky were exiled into the wilds. Having lost reason to fly, they soon lost the ability, and now they crawl along the ground, hunting for prey as any common beast."

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...ight_FFXII.jpg

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Originally Posted by Mholito

I'm not sure if you've noticed, but Mirror Knights have wings that they can use to fly over the blockade.

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Point is there is a passageway, no real reason we couldn't climb through it, other than the fact that outside certain franchises climbing doesn't exist in video games...

Rather than a blockade being the issue, they should have followed on from the lore in the quest where we were collecting corrupt crystal shards from the area and just said that the entrance way is basically just too radioactive...

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Originally Posted by Vejjiegirl

If you read the FATE quests tooltip in that area you will find out that Mirror Knights have been coming out of that entrance.
http://puu.sh/fJGtz/b010ee60a4.png
So it isn't blocked.

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Aren't mirror knights created by the Ragnarok vessels to defend themselves ?

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Originally Posted by Vejjiegirl

Here is something from FF12, I know they more than likely have a completely different lore in FF14 but it seems in FF12 they were unable to fly please note the area I have in bold:

"Being a high rank of bagoly, the armored, flying weapons of war, so effective in combat against enemy soldiers it was honored with knighthood. However, with the advent of airships, the need for its presence on the battlefield decreased, and the old flights were disbanded. Though not disposed of in light of their past contributions, these once-proud warriors of the sky were exiled into the wilds. Having lost reason to fly, they soon lost the ability, and now they crawl along the ground, hunting for prey as any common beast."

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It says that they used to be able to fly. It isn't unthinkable that the Mirrorknights in Eorzea can still fly.

Dreadknights from T5 use the Mirrorknight model and they fly into the arena to stun and stomp you.

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Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace

The remaining oddities I've noticed are the strange ruins in court has, the doors in N Shroud, the underground cavern in s shroud, the Sil'dih ruins in C Thanalan, The Mythril Mines in N Thanalan, and finally The Garlok's layer in E Lanosca (possibly not since Garlok is the E LA Noscan S-Rank hunt)

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Waiting for a FATE I just realized one you've forgotten; The Sepulchre, in Southern Flanalan. The deepest part has a gate leading down with an ominous green glow...

1. The one that I hope they add to the game is the Labyrinth in South Thanalan. We can currently travel it, but I wonder if it will get us to other places.

2. South Shroud - Temple Ruins (Imp FATE Location outside of Quarrymill) - I hope this gets expanded upon in the game with 3.0.

3. Mor Dhona - Expand the area in front of CT to open world content in 3.0 would be nice, and could add things as possible different Labyrinths, and different access points, etc. Maybe even run into a Hammer wielding, but messed up fool again...

4. Central Shourd - Top of Tree Climb from Meadows to White Wolf Gate - Make the pit a dungeon already or an open world cave style map(s). For anyone who has done the quests there, its a haven for creation of creatures and monsters. Makes me wonder a bit.

5. Corethas Central Highlands - Witch's Falls (I think) - I think I have seen a set of doors down here as well. This one is a place that makes me wonder what it serves. The place seems very NOT part of the overall storyline. Afterall, what witch's have fallen here, or put to death here....

6. La Noesea - Island map west of Pharos Sirous. Has a map marker, can't get to it or do anything on it.

7. Hullbreaker Isle - Seems there is a lot to that island to be left unexplored for just a dungeon....

8. Amadpor Keep - Hope they open up this whole area as open world content with 3.0.

Witchdrop is used by Ishgard's inquisition to execute accused heretics. A certain Main Scenario battle took place there.

As for that island west of Pharos Sirius, you mean Moonshade Isle, which is accessed during Sahagin beast-tribe quests. And Hullbreaker will probably have a Hard Mode during the expansion's patches.

The island to the west of Isle of Umbras is the island used in the Sahagin Beast tribe quests. You go there to kill pugils and crabs and stuff.

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Originally Posted by axemtitanium

Dreadknights from T5 use the Mirrorknight model and they fly into the arena to stun and stomp you.

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Actually, they seem to fall into the arena. I seem to recall a kind of flapping animation as they do fall but I'd say that's more of a reaction to falling than it is them "flying".

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Originally Posted by Nalien

Waiting for a FATE I just realized one you've forgotten; The Sepulchre, in Southern Flanalan. The deepest part has a gate leading down with an ominous green glow...

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That tunnel used to exist in the original version of the game, it was actually used commonly throughout Thanalan and would usually take you to hard to get places with lvl 70+ mobs. One aetherial node in Eastern Thanalan required passage through this tunnel type to access it and boy, that tunnel linked up with some awesome other tunnels and chambers. :D

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Originally Posted by Aoxaviar

5. Corethas Central Highlands - Witch's Falls (I think) - I think I have seen a set of doors down here as well. This one is a place that makes me wonder what it serves. The place seems very NOT part of the overall storyline. Afterall, what witch's have fallen here, or put to death here.....

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Where exactly is this? o.o

Witch DROP is that giant hole full of Voidgra just north of Camp Dragonhead. And there is no door down there, take this from some one who has explored much of the over world extensively. (Thus the point of this topic as I had never noticed the Shroud's Doors before thus prompting me to Re-Explore the over world)

As for a "Witch Falls", I've never seen a place with that name in Eorzea. Witch Drop is a place of Execution for Heretics and accused Heretics. Basically if you're a Blasphemous Dragon Worshiper/Sympathiser you'll either die and go to the 8th hell (Aka Oblivion) or turn into a Dragon to fly out upon which the giant cross bows will open fire and then... Send you to the 8th hell anyway. But if you're innocent you'll simply get a free pass to the Hall of Halone (Eorzea's Version of Valhalla I suppose) as compensation for The Holy See's Mistake. Thus the namesake "Witch Drop" directly alluding to the Salem Witch Trials and indirectly to The Spanish Inquisition.