Lizardfolk

Ware r the lizard folk in the new patch of 2.5 I forgot wat they called anyways if I am corect they are beastmen so anyone have an idea or hint of there primal

The Mamool Ja? They are a beast tribe, but from what we know, they don't worship any sort of deity so they wouldn't have a primal (things can change obviously). They, like the Goblins, tend to have better relations with the 5 humanoid races (you can see many Mamool Ja and Goblins doing business in the City States), so we would know right away if things go south.

Yeah, presuming you're talking about the "lizard folk" who show up in Wanderer's Palace in 2.5, that's the Mamool Ja. They're originally from FFXI, and the FFXIV version of the Mamools have a decent relationship with the Five Races of Eorzea, particularly the Lominsans. However, as work dries up following the conclusion of rebuilding post-Calamity, some of the Mamools who came to Eorzea for work have had to turn to banditry to make ends meet; certain FATEs and quests in East and Upper La Noscea deal with this, and the set-up for WPHM seems to be the same - as WP is basically "unclaimed", a group of Mamools seems to be intent on setting up shop inside, much to the distress of the now-sane Tonberries. I imagine the lead-in quest and follow-up will deal with this in more detail.

So hopefuly in 2.5 we should see more of there story.

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Originally Posted by Velox

The Mamool Ja? They are a beast tribe, but from what we know, they don't worship any sort of deity so they wouldn't have a primal (things can change obviously). They, like the Goblins, tend to have better relations with the 5 humanoid races (you can see many Mamool Ja and Goblins doing business in the City States), so we would know right away if things go south.

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I think it's safest to assume (again, like Goblins) that they do, in fact, have a 'deity'. We just don't know of it yet.

@OP: Please look forward to it!

I'd think that the Mamool Ja worship Yojimbo. More of a practical ideal, much like Alexander for the Goblins, but you'd have to really whip a faction of them up into a fanatical frenzy to get them to summon anything as it's not really in their general nature to fawn over something like a god.

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Originally Posted by Terrini

much like Alexander for the Goblins

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Do we really know that Alexander is the Goblin primal?

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Originally Posted by Terrini

you'd have to really whip a faction of them up into a fanatical frenzy to get them to summon anything as it's not really in their general nature to fawn over something like a god.

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I can already picture the bathing-dance-summoning ritual...

Devs at fan fest said Alexander is worshiped by the Goblins.

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

Devs at fan fest said Alexander is worshiped by the Goblins.

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Interesting... I didn't expect to see Goblins in Coerthas/Dravania.

It's possible Alexander will be revealed in a previously unaccessible area around the original three city states. I mean that's what the Keeper of the Lake dungeon is... You can see it on the Mor Dhona map.

Doubt it. Alexander was shown to be in a mountain/hilly area, nowhere near a lake.

Alexander is part of Heavensward, therefore it's almost guaranteed to be located somewhere within the new expansion zones in the north of Eorzea beyond Coerthas.

And before you pass judgement (no pun intended ;)), goblins are transient and migratory, and often travel on long journeys across Hydaelyn, meaning it's perfectly logical their 'Primal' exists in a currently inaccessible area.

But as they say, we'll find out soon enough.

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

Doubt it. Alexander was shown to be in a mountain/hilly area, nowhere near a lake.

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He is literally standing in a lake though....

http://i.imgur.com/pyGMkKj.jpg

But what I think Terrini meant is that like the Keeper of the Lake (which we could see, but not access), Alexander might turn up in an area we already know. Though I agree with Enkidoh that he will likely turn up in a new area from the expansion.

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Originally Posted by Alice_89th

He is literally standing in a lake though....

http://i.imgur.com/pyGMkKj.jpg

But what I think Terrini meant is that like the Keeper of the Lake (which we could see, but not access), Alexander might turn up in an area we already know. Though I agree with Enkidoh that he will likely turn up in a new area from the expansion.

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I think that's in Dravania.

Back to the Mamool Ja - they're a Beast Tribe that migrated to Eorzea, aren't they? I was under the impression that it was fairly recent. Considering how few we see in game, the bulk of their population is probably still in their homeland, so if we get to see their Primal eventually it probably won't be until we gain access to that area. My guess is that they're originally from Thavnair or around Radz-at-Hahn, mostly because the Mamool Ja in FFXI were around Aht Urhgan (which I imagine will be very similar to Radz-at-Hahn). Though the Mamool Ja could also be in the New World, for all we know.

Yoshi-p said that overtime you may see Mamool Ja having more of a influence in the storyline. At some point they may or may not have enough power to summon there own primal. Pretty much saying look forward too it lmao i pretty sure they would summon there own primal some time in 3.0 and we have to deal with them.

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Originally Posted by Baithin

Back to the Mamool Ja - they're a Beast Tribe that migrated to Eorzea, aren't they? I was under the impression that it was fairly recent. Considering how few we see in game, the bulk of their population is probably still in their homeland, so if we get to see their Primal eventually it probably won't be until we gain access to that area. My guess is that they're originally from Thavnair or around Radz-at-Hahn, mostly because the Mamool Ja in FFXI were around Aht Urhgan (which I imagine will be very similar to Radz-at-Hahn). Though the Mamool Ja could also be in the New World, for all we know.

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The mamool'ja actually come from the 'New World', that is, the mysterious unnamed continent to the west of Aldernard and Vlybrand that Limsa Lominsa had recently discovered just prior to the Calamity (Thavnair and Radz-at-han are actually near Othard, that's to the east of Eorzea). They were brought over to Eorzea as a cheap source of manual labour, to fill manpower shortages in the aftermath of the Calamity, but as the realm recovered and people started to get back on their feet, the mamool'ja increasingly had to fight 'natural-born' Eorzeans for jobs, thus causing a lot of resentment from them and sending many onto the streets and out into the wilds to become bandits and sellswords (the FATE in Eastern La Noscea '9 to 5' specifically mentions this).

This is also why mamool'ja are currently only found in Vlybrand - it's the closest portion of Eorzea to their homeland.

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I knew that much about them - though I guess I forgot that they are actually from the New World. Probably subconsciously remembered it which would explain my last sentence, haha.

Let's hope they won't have any Native American comparisons, then... Since the New World is almost definitely analogous to the Americas, it'd be ... Unfortunate if Native Americans were compared to a beast tribe.