Question about Cartenau and West shroud from 1.0

Not sure if it should be in lore or general.. I know the lore Q&A said West Shroud went "poof" (in a sense). Carteneau Flats is a pvp zone. However for anyone who was playing in 1.0, where were the two zones in relation to each other?

Given the description of what may be in the ruins. If they are regionally in proximity to each other in current 2.XX maps. One could argue that whatever is left of West shroud could be used as a isolated back door into Carteneau. All I know was Carteneau was somewhere in Mor Dhona and that part of the Shroud was around that lake somewhere.

I never played 1.0, but has anyone tried to complare maps to see how much was moved around or kept in about the same section (give or take) in these areas?

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Originally Posted by Kotemon

However for anyone who was playing in 1.0, where were the two zones in relation to each other?

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Cartenau wasn't in 1.0 at all, actually. It's always just been referenced as a place and never visited outside of PVP. From what I understand there wasn't anything out there of interest then, anyway (inb4 "There wasn't anything of interest in most of 1.0's copypasta zones! Trololol!").

Here's a trace of the Ironheart map with simple English. Between the labels for Mor Dhona and Thanalan you can see Cartenau to the west. You've got pretty much the whole of Mor Dhona in the diagonal space between Cartenau and the Shroud. Now, the South Shroud is between where the Hathoeva River dumps into the southern of the two large bays of Rothlyt Sound. I guess that maybe puts the West Shroud somewhere around the middle forks of the White Maiden, perhaps. That should be sufficient for the connection West Shroud had to Mor Dhona at the north-eastern corner of Silvertear Lake in 1.0.

http://ffxivmaps.com/img/region-eorzea-small.png

West Shroud didn't go poof literally though. It's still there, in fact, you can see it looking west from Central Shroud (near spriggan camp) or looking south from North Shroud (where the golems are). In fact we "travel" through west shroud when going the Central->North road (even though there is a zone line, if you expand the in-game map you can see the true distance traveled).

Basically West Shroud was utterly destroyed by the shard of Dalamud that resides at the southern edge of the North Shroud. If you look westward at night you can see the giant aether crystals glowing yellow in the distance. You will also notice that all trees have been razed (damage leaked into Central and North) so we can assume the whole zone is a burnt, barren, rocky wasteland that can't support life. Hopefully one day we can formally step foot in it and not zone through it (same to the rest of the Coerthan Highlands and Lowlands)

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Originally Posted by Velox

West Shroud didn't go poof literally though. It's still there, in fact, you can see it looking west from Central Shroud (near spriggan camp) or looking south from North Shroud (where the golems are). In fact we "travel" through west shroud when going the Central->North road (even though there is a zone line, if you expand the in-game map you can see the true distance traveled).

Basically West Shroud was utterly destroyed by the shard of Dalamud that resides at the southern edge of the North Shroud. If you look westward at night you can see the giant aether crystals glowing yellow in the distance. You will also notice that all trees have been razed (damage leaked into Central and North) so we can assume the whole zone is a burnt, barren, rocky wasteland that can't support life. Hopefully one day we can formally step foot in it and not zone through it (same to the rest of the Coerthan Highlands and Lowlands)

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Are you meaning this?
http://www.gamerbc.com/wp-content/ga...ept-art-11.jpg

I don't think thats actually part of Dalamud. Still though, West Shroud was pretty messed up by the fall of Dalamud, as evidenced by the huge shard sticking out of the ground near Fallgourd Float, I imagine that Gridania is working with the elementals to try to perhaps restore West Shroud.

Also, I was the one who asked the West Shroud question way back when! :D

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Originally Posted by Chewy2nd

Are you meaning this?
http://www.gamerbc.com/wp-content/ga...ept-art-11.jpg

I don't think thats actually part of Dalamud. Still though, West Shroud was pretty messed up by the fall of Dalamud, as evidenced by the huge shard sticking out of the ground near Fallgourd Float, I imagine that Gridania is working with the elementals to try to perhaps restore West Shroud.

Also, I was the one who asked the West Shroud question way back when! :D

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Where they shall discovered a gelmorran ruin shedding some light on the War of the Magi and so opening the door to 3.0's plot.

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Originally Posted by Chewy2nd

I don't think thats actually part of Dalamud. Still though, West Shroud was pretty messed up by the fall of Dalamud, as evidenced by the huge shard sticking out of the ground near Fallgourd Float, I imagine that Gridania is working with the elementals to try to perhaps restore West Shroud.

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Not quite - that structure looks very similar to masses of corrupted crystal that appeared to be the frozen remnants of Bahamut's attacks after he burst out of Dalamud during the Calamity, at the Salt Strand in Lower La Noscea, and Dalamud's Talons in Northern Thanalan.

Also, the West Shroud actually appears to at least be partially intact, based on dialogue during the ARR Gridanian storyline:

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Originally Posted by ARR Gridanian main scenario quest 'Spirithold Broken'

Galfrid: "On any other day, I would dispatch my best Quivermen to provide support, but I sent them to repel an Ixali incursion into the West Shroud nary a bell ago."

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Given the fact that Galfrid mentioned in that scene above that the Ixal are raiding the area, and that the Wood Wailers and God's Quiver patrol it, shows that at least part of it is still accessible. But of course, whether we ever will get to explore it is a completely different barrel of moogles. ;)

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

Not quite - that structure looks very similar to masses of corrupted crystal that appeared to be the frozen remnants of Bahamut's attacks after he burst out of Dalamud during the Calamity, at the Salt Strand in Lower La Noscea, and Dalamud's Talons in Northern Thanalan.

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Looking closer at it, you can see it's definately a different colour to the more orangey corrupted crystals.
http://i.imgur.com/J6zpFoD.jpg

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

http://ffxivmaps.com/img/region-eorzea-small.png

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Looking at that map, for 4.0 only direction it looks they can expand is the islands (added sea travel?) which may or may not be enough land mass for a full expansion and towards the Garlean empire with Ala Mhigo.

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Originally Posted by Sapphic

Looking at that map, for 4.0 only direction it looks they can expand is the islands (added sea travel?) which may or may not be enough land mass for a full expansion and towards the Garlean empire with Ala Mhigo.

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Well, they went 'up' in 3.0, so they could always go down. Or to one of the other continents.

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Originally Posted by Sapphic

0 only direction it looks they can expand is the islands which may or may not be enough land mass for a full expansion

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Originally Posted by Grayve

they could always go down. Or to one of the other continents.

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They could allow us access to the beastmen lands with Gyr Abania (Ala Mhigo) to cover the same ground as when we head "up" in 3.0. Pagl'than (Amalj'aa), Xelphatol (Ixal), and O'Ghomoro (Kobold) remain unexplored, and there could be something in the Indigo Deep, maybe. I expect we'll be going to Thavnair at some point, as well. Perhaps some of the areas mentioned by the Wandering Minstrel?

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

Cartenau wasn't in 1.0 at all, actually. It's always just been referenced as a place and never visited outside of PVP. From what I understand there wasn't anything out there of interest then, anyway (inb4 "There wasn't anything of interest in most of 1.0's copypasta zones! Trololol!").

Here's a trace of the Ironheart map with simple English.

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Thanks, having a whole regions shape helped

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Originally Posted by Chewy2nd

Are you meaning this?
http://www.gamerbc.com/wp-content/ga...ept-art-11.jpg

I don't think thats actually part of Dalamud. Still though, West Shroud was pretty messed up by the fall of Dalamud, as evidenced by the huge shard sticking out of the ground near Fallgourd Float, I imagine that Gridania is working with the elementals to try to perhaps restore West Shroud.

Also, I was the one who asked the West Shroud question way back when! :D

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I have no idea where that image is from but running around at night I found that peak at the spot where the Fate with Lunar Golems spawn.. I also took the time to notice that between that chunk or those glowing lights in the distance something is suspending the rocks in mid air by what looks like a former/possible route into the west shroud. Although I doubt that glow resembles the ones holding the floating city up in the air. For some reason it looks like that crater in Coerthas but inverted. If the Ixali are trying to get in there may be aether infused trees?

Aside from that I was taking the time to piece segments of maps together and discovered nothing is to scale, and 95% of all the 2.0 maps online are bad. Still has the fog of war over topography despite being fully visible. The maps in-game reveal a lot more topography, that alone makes it easier to piece them together. Scaling is way off, I shrunk New Gridania to fit it in central where it overlaps and Old Gridania had to shrink to scale onto it.. North Shroud is either a far distance from Gridania or is really small compared to central shroud. Map wise it should not scale to be the same size or smaller than Gridania. Given that Gridania as a whole is now scaled to central none of the zones to North Shroud line up. Even scaling it to Central Shroud (only) the two entry points don't line up very well. It'll be easier if there were more topography reviled around the main map as to give scale, rotation and distance between maps. Just like Iron Lake and Fallground have parts that overlap. Along with Gridania and Central shroud. Moving to Mor Dhona everything is also moved about like Singing Shards and the Toll went more north to the zone(compared to what I saw on 1.0 not the best for detail). The only way to see how everything fits is if a couple maps contain the lower and eastern half of Silvertear lake. Given what I'm seeing of the Shroud so far West would have either been big enough to border on Silvertear or obscurely small like north shroud. I haven't gotten to South or East yet but so far it seems there was some location shifting going on when they redid the maps and zones after the end of 1.0. If north could be scaled and placed right and then Coerthas and Mor Dhona would follow (to a point). North Thanalan is iffy since it has a huge invisible chunk to the east. Thus no reference to Silvertear Lake or how big of a gap exists between it and Mor Dhona. Let alone where the fill in the blanks for Cartenau and West Shroud would be given the current detail on 2.0 maps.

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Originally Posted by Kotemon

Talks about map inconsistencies

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Also if you open up the world map in-game, and then zoom in to the regional map in-game, nothing really adds up either. On the map there is a huge gap between Eastern Thanalan and South Shroud, but in-game we can clearly see where the two zones meet. Additionally, South Shroud literally sits just a bit east of Mor Dhona, but there has (afaik) never been any path from south shroud to Mor Dhona. There was I believe an old 2.0 beta map that had a connection where Lost City now sits, which would explain that space at least somewhat. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the area could be Amdapori(sp?) ruins and are blocked by the elementals.

http://s24.postimg.org/ftz7cfeyt/ss1.jpg
http://s9.postimg.org/9g9m7w7wv/ss2.jpg
http://s29.postimg.org/nn6jlxw53/ss3.jpg

Also, according to the game map, there is a vast section of unexplored land south of Ul'dah and South Thanalan, as well as further to the East of Eastern Thanalan, a large chuck of area that on the Thanalan map is in Mor Dhona, but isn't part of the Mor Dhona map at all, O'Ghomoro as mentioned above, and lets not get started on Coerthas...

bottom line really is there are some glaring inconsistencies with the in-game maps but there is also room for expansion and exploration.

Utilizing the position of Central and North Shroud, and from locating those crystals from different directions, we can deduce that West Shroud would be on the map as follows

http://i60.tinypic.com/ok2134.jpg
(I borrowed Itseotle's image to edit :D)

From what I can tell, we travel THROUGH the West Shroud every time we go from Central → North, and vice versa. The fact that we can see the same destruction from both sides (burnt trees and boulders near Spriggan Dig are the same as seen in the area south of Fallgoard Float). This proves that West Shroud lies directly between Central and North Shroud. This is also evidenced by the settlement marker on the map (purposely put there) that I circled in red. This shows that Gridania has some sort of hamlet or outpost in this region.

At this point, I'm assuming West Shroud is being treated like the Coerthas Lowlands, which we know exist between North Shroud and the Coerthas Highlands (and were accessible in 1.0), but now we seem to simply "warp" through them like they aren't even there anymore. I am hoping at some point in the future we regain access to all these maps that exist, yet don't exist anymore.

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Originally Posted by Itseotle

Also, according to the game map, there is a vast section of unexplored land south of Ul'dah and South Thanalan, as well as further to the East of Eastern Thanalan, a large chuck of area that on the Thanalan map is in Mor Dhona, but isn't part of the Mor Dhona map at all, O'Ghomoro as mentioned above, and lets not get started on Coerthas...

bottom line really is there are some glaring inconsistencies with the in-game maps but there is also room for expansion and exploration.

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In regards to Southern Thanalan, the area south is all part of the Sagolii Desert. In fact, if you go in-game and head down there, go as far south as you can go and you see how the desert actually stretches on for many, many yalms (we just can't access it). As a semi-spoiler, at some point in the story we probably will due to the fact that SE left us a nice unused road to it. It can be found near the Amalj'aa camp (the far southern outpost on the edge of the desert). If you head down there, you can see where the road is and how we're blocked by invisible walls from progressing any further. There are similar roads in many places, all utilizing invisible walls, waiting to be opened up in expansions to come. You can see the road that will take us to Ala Mhigo if you go to Larkscall and follow the road East, past where that Magitek Menace FATE spawns.

The Black Shrouds regional map is an absolute mess. I remember putting together all the regional maps (because I really dislike the artistic map and would prefer a proper "world" map) and for the most part things were fine. La Noscea looks nothing like the artistic map version but it fits (ended up aligning it with various small islands, all the other regions involved aligning the coastal sections), Mor Dhona fits almost perfect with Thanalan and Coerthas. Coerthas and the Shroud though? Absolutely terrible. I think if you overlap them the Coerthas region map puts you closer to Central Shroud and the Shroud map is more likely to have you going off into Xelphatol. The gap between Thanalan and South Shroud seemed fine to me, there are a lot of areas which seem to have a large transitional area skipped over, but North Shroud to Coerthas simply did not align in the slightest.

Were there a West Shroud I'd actually expect it to be where we zone into Coerthas from, with North Shroud leading to Xelphatol. That would actually fit fairly nicely looking at it...

Made a new (awful chimera) of a world map, sorry about the quality but yeah, that Coerthas/Shroud zone makes zero sense... Almost makes me think West Shroud was cut at some point...

https://i.imgur.com/hsBcx2z.png

Wonder if Heavensward could edit a few quests and add West Shroud in... It's clearly meant to be there, even the in game zone from Central Shroud seems to indicate it... Spriggans Dig is dead, but if you look beyond the zone line there are plenty of healthy plants that I'd expect from West Shroud given what we can see of it (crystals trees and waterfalls can be made out). Same can't be said looking from North to Central. Hope we don't just get Ishgard themed areas but also an expansion into beast tribe territories, I can see a Paglth'an region, Xelphatol region and O'Ghomoro region being added fairly easily. If you look at some of the early concept maps there are even indications for such zones. Well, only O'Ghomoro really since "Zone to Volcano" is only going to take us one place. Interestingly though, it looks like the area we fight the Chimera during the Relic quest was originally going to be an Ixali dungeon? Can't really see that happening now, but if you go off in that direction (and if you go just north of Natalan there is an Ixali gate leading that way) you'd end up in Xelphatol. Paglth'an could be reached either by the gate at the end of Zahar'ak. They'd all actually be perfect places to put roaming Primals for Free Company summoning, too. Sylphs and Sahagin might be left out in that case though, but there are a lot of blocked off paths in Sylphlands that could lead to a Sylph region. Sahagin I can't see getting their own region until swimming is added though. Heck who knows, maybe before we build Airships we'll build regular ships and the Indigo Deep will be a large area we can sail about in for a Sahagin region... Don't actually see how they could introduce Leviathan in that way without reworking the entire fight...

I'd like to see all the maps done that way. It makes it easier for me to picture how I'm traveling through Eorzia.

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Originally Posted by Velox

This is also evidenced by the settlement marker on the map (purposely put there) that I circled in red. This shows that Gridania has some sort of hamlet or outpost in this region.
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Wouldn't that suggest that there's still some sort of Hamlet defense going on in the area? Assuming if the assumption about Ixali incursions into there via Gridania main quest is correct.

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Originally Posted by Nalien

Made a new (awful chimera) of a world map, sorry about the quality but yeah, that Coerthas/Shroud zone makes zero sense... Almost makes me think West Shroud was cut at some point...

https://i.imgur.com/hsBcx2z.png

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That a pretty decent world map. Right now I'm trying to pretend there's small mountain ranges and the occasional moon chunk that creates the gap in some of these places.

Btw: is there a name for that really big mountain past the cliff by that hermits hut north of Camp Overlook.. That's a pretty big mountain for La Noscea's area.

So, here's the thing about the maps that I think people are missing:

Early era maps are never accurate. EVER.

Sure, they have the technology to accurately draw them out, but there are any number of constant struggles that interfere with map drawing. At best, they guess. no one has the time in such a conflicted land of interests such as Eorzea.
The problem with the Black Shroud is the trees. They would be the worst culprit of interference, especially in the deeper canopies where light is fleeting and time can become distorted.
In regards to why West Shroud is inaccessible to Adventurers, perhaps the majority of the God's Bow and Wood Wailers are engaged in it's defense and exploration, remapping the altered terrain, seeking a new location for an Atheryte? The lack of an atheryte would explain why we cannot access the area in terms of game logic and such.

I think we do go through part of West Shroud, as the Ancient Eorzean Stratum is directly south from Fallgourd Float, I think, as said above, the majority of West Shroud is currently undergoing recovery.

I like the early era map idea, it makes sense.

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Originally Posted by Nalien

Wonder if Heavensward could edit a few quests and add West Shroud in... It's clearly meant to be there, even the in game zone from Central Shroud seems to indicate it... Spriggans Dig is dead, but if you look beyond the zone line there are plenty of healthy plants that I'd expect from West Shroud given what we can see of it (crystals trees and waterfalls can be made out). Same can't be said looking from North to Central. Hope we don't just get Ishgard themed areas but also an expansion into beast tribe territories, I can see a Paglth'an region, Xelphatol region and O'Ghomoro region being added fairly easily.

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A key note at fan fest did say Heavensward would have "Dravania and other beast-tribe domains."

I've found a nicely marked map from Coerthas 1.0, until now I've been assuming Mor Dhona and Revenant's Toll were re worked parts of Coerthas lowlands. Due to the area between Central highlands and Lowlands resembling the area around Revenant's Toll. After looking up Ewe Lake this old map fills in most of the gap between it and Mor Dhona. This is great reference as now I can move this further away from Mor Dhona when piecing them together on the 2.0 maps. But makes the question as how North shroud is ending up zoning near Dragon Head since the big bridge is a wreck from what was seen in the fight with Greg. (why is it impassible again?)

http://chrysaliswiki.wdfiles.com/loc...rthas_ff14.jpg


In another post about the possible location of Alexander possibly being in or around Ewe Lake. If that's true then are we currently warping past the Central Lowlands into Central highlands from Mor Dhona? Just like West Shroud.


Aside from that between 1.0 and 2.0 the Central Region is for the most part unchanged except around behemoth and snow cloak, it seems Ogre's Belly replaced the path to that small area just East of Natalan. Cant see a way that leads to East Highlands though.

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Originally Posted by Zohar_Lahar

A key note at fan fest did say Heavensward would have "Dravania and other beast-tribe domains."

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Comparing the two maps and the current Snow weather. Is it possible all that is from IceHeart /Shiva and that weatern Highlands is now a possible Dravanian stronghold (given the state of Stone Vigil) ? Also for 2.55 it seems there is a Keep on the bridge to Ishgard.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0...y%2Bshroud.jpg

So, I've been trying to piece together the new zones to show where the zone lines go, and also just how much land we lost in the 2.0 conversion. I'll explain methodology below, but the long and short of it is: a lot. One of the more interesting things I noticed is that when I lined up the landmasses, the main waterways in North and South Shroud seem to correlate to the old Furline and Lumberline roads that ran into these zones previously. Also, Yellow Serpent Gate that leads out into North Shroud is where the old retainer markets used to be.

Method: So, the first concern to address was scale of each area map. Gridania was easy- not only do both zones have buildings that use the same model clearly drawn on them, but they also have a outline of each other as well. Using Central shroud as a baseline, I used Arbor Call to measure the distance between map landmarks and botany nodes. I scaled them in Photoshop until the distances matched and the zones were to scale. Then, I struggled a bit with adding Gridania, but then notice that Central Shroud and Old Gridania have drawing of Jadeite Flood and the waterfall that feeds it. I was able to line up those to get the whole 2.0 Shroud to scale.

Next, I needed to overlay 2.0 on 1.0, but had to ensure THEY were to scale. Luckily, 1.0's seamless world made this really easy- I took a made of Gridania, made it black outline and overlaid with with the Shroud, lining up the bridges that made up the two exits into Bentbranch. I then just adjusted the 2.0 map so the two Gridanias matched. You can see the black background in the map above to show where Mih Khetto's Amphitheatre and the old Stillglade Fane used to be.

Now, I just had to place the landmarks, and THAT was hard. 1.0 had VERY few landmarks to begin with, then, you know, Dalamud. However, each zone did have ONE feature that would have carried over that at least was most likely not rebuilt. Central Shroud was already aligned with Gridania, but Jadeite Flood matches pretty well. East Shroud was pretty easy because of Moonspire Grove in the Sylphlands, and it correlates nice with the Sanctum of the Twelve being in a previously inaccessible area. South Shroud was tough, but the entrance to Toto-Rak was the clue. That location couldn't have moved that far, so while it was MOSTLY a guess, it should be accurate within a couple hundred yalms. North Shroud was the hardest, though. There are no visible skyline landmarks- except some aether claws in the sky, but if you view them in game, they are actually mirrored, as they face the same direction from both north AND south. I tried parsing the location using the directions of the roads at beyond ths zonelines (both ways) but came up empty handed there, too. I eventually went with Fallgourd Lake. It is much bigger now than it was before, but there was another lake north of there, Lake Tahtotl, and if you line up the old Fallgourd Lake's southeast edge to where the new one drains, the northern reaches of the new lake on the shore's of the Ixali lumber camp line up with the old Lake Tahtotl- which I literally only JUST NOW learned is the name of the fishing spot in the Ixali Logging Grounds, so that clinches that!

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Originally Posted by Kotemon

But makes the question as how North shroud is ending up zoning near Dragon Head since the big bridge is a wreck from what was seen in the fight with Greg. (why is it impassible again?)

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If that's true then are we currently warping past the Central Lowlands into Central highlands from Mor Dhona? Just like West Shroud.

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These have the same kind of situation to them. The north shroud->central highlands connection has a long stretch of land that we skip over in ARR. The point we end up to in ARR is a bit south-west of Skyfire Locks, so the road must pass south of that arm of the Sea of Clouds (swerving briefly into central lowlands), then back towards east to north shroud. The original black shroud<->coerthas zone line was in that long tail of land east of Briar Lake in eastern lowlands.

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Aside from that between 1.0 and 2.0 the Central Region is for the most part unchanged except around behemoth and snow cloak, it seems Ogre's Belly replaced the path to that small area just East of Natalan. Cant see a way that leads to East Highlands though.

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Almost right. There was never a path from central highlands to that strip of land east of Natalan. It was accessed through a tunnel from eastern lowlands (Fields of Glory), and it was where Garuda's aetherial node used for the story mode fight was. The way to eastern highlands was through a tunnel from central highlands, around where Ogre's Belly now is. All in all, Coerthas used to be full of tunnels and caves. Getting to some areas (cliff area south of Ferndale, the lowland area north of Dusk Vigil) could be very confusing if you didn't know the way already.

I marked that map btw, great to know it's useful even though it isn't very well done. :D

So do we know where this leads? I originally thought East Shroud's Hedgetree was behind there, until I noticed that was across the way from the gates, could it possibly be a road to West Shroud?
http://i.imgur.com/YOP90QT.jpg

WARNING
MOOGLES AND ELEMENTALS BEYOND THIS GATE

Please keep your wine safe and wear a mask at all times.

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Originally Posted by Chewy2nd

So do we know where this leads? I originally thought East Shroud's Hedgetree was behind there, until I noticed that was across the way from the gates, could it possibly be a road to West Shroud?
http://i.imgur.com/YOP90QT.jpg

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I'm going to borrow Andaeron's map for this since he did an awesome job of including the new maps.

http://i60.tinypic.com/mj4jza.jpg

I did my best using red lines to show current path connections. Assuming they all line up, the area behind the closed gates in East Shroud would lie within the blue circle, which doesn't even seem to coincide with any known 1.0 area. My guess is that, the area behind the gates is new to 2.0. You can be sure they will be using it for something for them to take the time to put it there when they redid the zone. I don't think it would lead to West Shroud though, as it seems unlikely we would be cutting through Central and part of South Shroud to get there. I'm assuming it's just going to be a brand new, non-1.0-related area.

Good point, it wouldn't really work if it went to West Shroud, speaking of closed gates, there is also the case of the Black Boar Gate in Gridania.

That tower has a large platform with a Twin Adder banner flying on it. If I had to guess, it's some sort of military garrison, used as a headquarters in keeping an eye on Castrum Oriens nearby. It does concern me that there don't seem to be any guards stationed by...

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Originally Posted by Chewy2nd

Good point, it wouldn't really work if it went to West Shroud, speaking of closed gates, there is also the case of the Black Boar Gate in Gridania.

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I passed that gate once. Ended up beneath a lake. And then beneath East Shroud.

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Originally Posted by Velox

I'm assuming it's just going to be a brand new, non-1.0-related area.

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If you look at the 2.0 region map, it basically looks like it should lead to Lavender Beds, which itself has two closed paths leading east. Probably something housing related.

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Originally Posted by Chewy2nd

Good point, it wouldn't really work if it went to West Shroud, speaking of closed gates, there is also the case of the Black Boar Gate in Gridania.

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I looked on the area map, and the Black Boar Gate seems to lead to Eastern Abalathia's Spine, according to my translation.

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Originally Posted by Chewy2nd

I looked on the area map, and the Black Boar Gate seems to lead to Eastern Abalathia's Spine, according to my translation.

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That would be Xelphaltol, the Ixali domain.