Make wind up onion knight a sure drop plox..

Hoping to see wind up onion knight being a sure drop from ST last boss in the upcoming 2.5 patch (CT part 3) pretty plox :rolleyes: {:v)

Yes please. This would give more reasons for people to run it and help new players too.

Ehh... Rather get a Cerberus or wind-up something from FF3 instead of that. It should stay as it is in the Syrcus Tower.

As I've been trying to get one for a long time myself (last minion I need as far as being obtainable ingame), I like this idea. Or perhaps maybe make it tradable like the majority of the minions that are lootable.

Yes. I rarely see it drop, and when I do, my rolls are abysmal (except that one time I rolled a 98 and someone else rolled a 99). If Ihamore chachances, I might actually win it one of these days.

After finally getting a Nightmare mount, I have to admit I was a little miffed when they increased the drop rate roughly 2 weeks later...

But as a minion collector who has yet to win the Onion Knight... I'm all for this! ;)

I'm ok with a 1 in 24 chance to win a roll, but I agree it should be a consistent minion reward, much like the Ultros Minion in his trial.

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Originally Posted by Skeith-Adeline

Ehh... Rather get a Cerberus or wind-up something from FF3 instead of that. It should stay as it is in the Syrcus Tower.

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My point was, since the up to date patch is gonna be CT 3, why not making the drop rate to be easier since there would be less people interested in running em anymore, but there are still people like me who is still interested in getting the said minion..

Did 5 runs of ST this weekend, and the 4th chest only popped once. I rolled a 13. >_>
For that matter I've only rolled above 20 once out of the small sample of times the minion has dropped. When I finally rolled a 94 one time, I didn't even get excited because I KNEW I would get out-rolled still...and I did. Lost to a 98 >_<
I'm at 105 minions. I just need this guy, the delivery moogle (not even available for a few months now GRRRR!) and the Lou from clearing T13.


They need to add a tower roulette, with a 100 tome bonus!

Hurray for asking for hand outs!

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Originally Posted by Tiggy

Hurray for asking for hand outs!

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Which the OP isn't asking for.

I've seen it drop maybe 7 times since ST came out and every single time I've rolled on it I get anywhere between a 20 and 35 and some other person wins it with a 90 something. I know RNG and all but holy crap. Only seeing the minion drop maybe once every 20+ runs is way too rare for a minion that can't even be traded.

I've seen it drop about 3 times in all this time, I want!! :)

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Originally Posted by Riviere

Which the OP isn't asking for.

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If it drops every single time then it practically is. Within a week everyone who wants one would have it done. 100% drop rates tend to have that effect. Increase the drop rate sure, but don't make it guaranteed. Some items are supposed to be rare and coveted.

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Originally Posted by Tiggy

If it drops every single time then it practically is. Within a week everyone who wants one would have it done. 100% drop rates tend to have that effect. Increase the drop rate sure, but don't make it guaranteed. Some items are supposed to be rare and coveted.

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No it isn't. It can drop every time and you still have to win the roll against anyone else interested in it, which can be the other 23 players.

And why should it matter if it's a sure drop? I don't see anyone complaining that sands, oils and UATs are guaranteed drops from the last 2 bosses.

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Originally Posted by Riviere

I don't see anyone complaining that sands, oils and UATs are guaranteed drops from the last 2 bosses.

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Fyi, people did complain about this because it was practically serving i110 on a platter with people who did SCoB, which hadn't been opened to all yet, saying thanks to SE for making their time irrelevant in raid.

For the OP though, sucks that the drop rate for you is so bad. I've never had a problem with it, personally. Keeping in mind that if you see a minion per every five runs, it's still way better than any pony drop. Going on 100+ Shiva EX and never seen a pony once. RNG is RNG. Consider this though, all my friends ran ST only once a week for loot back when it was current...and then after it was unlocked completely, we ran it like, 3 times a day for Sands/Oils (and always were outbid) and in that time, all the people in our group got the Onion Knight.

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Originally Posted by Ophie-Mio

Fyi, people did complain about this because it was practically serving i110 on a platter with people who did SCoB, which hadn't been opened to all yet, saying thanks to SE for making their time irrelevant in raid.

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How does it make it irrelevant when you've used it for months already.

Minions aren't "needed" for anything. Some items should be hard to get. As a collector myself, it feels nice to have something special that not everyone else has. I'd rather tear my hair out getting it and have it actually be rare than to get it day 1 along with every other person in the world. I like the minions part of the game as is: some are easy, some are a bit harder, some are fairly rare, and then some are crazy hard to get. The Onion Knight falls in the latter category. Oooooh well.

I've only seen the onion knight drop once. And I rolled a freaking 1. (Just like ST won't let me win any lots on sands and oil...)

My best roll on the wind up onion knight was a 96. I lost it -_- I've been trying for that damn pet since ST launched, and have yet to win it lol. Sadly, I don't see it being a 100% drop as helping, because there WILL be those people that roll on it even though they've learned it already, just to stop others from getting it.

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Originally Posted by Ilitsa

My best roll on the wind up onion knight was a 96. I lost it -_- I've been trying for that damn pet since ST launched, and have yet to win it lol. Sadly, I don't see it being a 100% drop as helping, because there WILL be those people that roll on it even though they've learned it already, just to stop others from getting it.

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Or to sell it on the market boards for a king's ransom of gil.

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Originally Posted by Ophie-Mio

Fyi, people did complain about this because it was practically serving i110 on a platter with people who did SCoB, which hadn't been opened to all yet, saying thanks to SE for making their time irrelevant in raid.

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That was mostly about Hunt
There was less complain while sand and oil went into CT2.

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Originally Posted by Riviere

No it isn't. It can drop every time and you still have to win the roll against anyone else interested in it, which can be the other 23 players.

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Originally Posted by Tiggy

If it drops every single time then it practically is. Within a week everyone who wants one would have it done.

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I didn't say it would be instant, but it will be very fast when you can get on guaranteed.

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Originally Posted by Riviere

And why should it matter if it's a sure drop? I don't see anyone complaining that sands, oils and UATs are guaranteed drops from the last 2 bosses.

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Actually, some people did.

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Originally Posted by Felis

There was less complain while sand and oil went into CT2.

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Less sure, because the dam had already been broken, but people still did complain so he was accurate.

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Originally Posted by Noshpan

Or to sell it on the market boards for a king's ransom of gil.

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Please make it tradeable. I won the drop on a second Onion Knight minion and I would love to sell it for a knight's ransom. :-)

Personally I rather have the other GC minions buyable at a higher gc seal rate. Because when you change GC you lose all of your PVP rank and that is so much grinding to throw away just to get the other 2 minions.

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Originally Posted by Tiggy

I didn't say it would be instant, but it will be very fast when you can get on guaranteed.

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So? Is someone's e-peen affected by that? It's not even something that you earn through hard work, just luck.

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Originally Posted by Sethra

Please make it tradeable. I won the drop on a second Onion Knight minion and I would love to sell it for a knight's ransom. :-)

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Wait...so you already had the minion, but you continued to roll on it even though it explicitly says UNIQUE UNTRADABLE for the sole reason of screwing 23 people over? No offense, but that's definitely one of the top 10 dick moves I've seen in this game so far.

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Originally Posted by Tiggy

Hurray for asking for hand outs!

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Yeah because ST is super hard content right? The drop rate is too low. It's outdated content at this point and if they up the drop rate it'll provide some inventive to go back and help others.

I rolled because I was curious if it would block me from rolling -- and not only did it let me roll but I won the roll as well.

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Originally Posted by Sethra

I rolled because I was curious if it would block me from rolling -- and not only did it let me roll but I won the roll as well.

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Still a dick move

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Decided this was appropriate when I saw this thread.

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Originally Posted by Shane_Leonhart

As I've been trying to get one for a long time myself (last minion I need as far as being obtainable ingame), I like this idea. Or perhaps maybe make it tradable like the majority of the minions that are lootable.

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If they do that, people who do not need the minion will lot to sell it, increasing competition. Not sure it'd be a good idea.

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Originally Posted by Tiggy

If it drops every single time then it practically is. Within a week everyone who wants one would have it done.

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Horror of horrors.

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Originally Posted by Ophie-Mio

Keeping in mind that if you see a minion per every five runs, it's still way better than any pony drop. Going on 100+ Shiva EX and never seen a pony once. RNG is RNG.

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More to the problem which will arise soon after the last CT comes out, which will make the current ST queue times way longer, as it is now, i've seen it every 5-10 runs, along with throne gem.. But the queue time for ST is like 5-15mins as a tank, a bit faster as healer, and a bit horrendous as dps.. When ST first came out, the queue was almost instant to -10mins.. I've seen people farmed ponies, hence never see a party farm for onion knight, which is why i wouldnt complain about pony drop rate much..
I wouldnt complain about drop rate if for some reason people are still running ST which would be outdated soonish..
Tldr.. How would you get a drop rate if the runs are scarce to begin with..

As a minion collector, I only need the Sightseeing Log reward and this Wind-up Onion Knight. I will have the Apkallu minion tomorrow but I have yet to win the Onion Knight since ST came out. I just ran it 5 times in a row so far and didn't see that 4th coffer at all today. Please make it a 100% drop. It's bad enough I have a small chance to win against 23 other players...but to barely see it, it's friggin evil.
http://www.xiv-minions.com/user.php?...rver=Gilgamesh

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Originally Posted by Arlus

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http://puu.sh/edjxD/5cc158c59e.jpg

Decided this was appropriate when I saw this thread.

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I actually don't blame the assholes that roll on a minion they already have. Every game has dumb fucks that LOVE to fuck people out of items if they can. Who I DO blame are the developers who allow the game mechanic to allow a player who already has the minion to roll again.

The minion being rare? I would like it to stay exactly how it is, and I don't even have it in my collection. If they would just fix it so these pieces of shit cant roll on them, it would be great in my book.

My wife-to-be wanted this. It dropped and I got it.. To my dismay it's untradable >=/.

I just ran ST all day today and that 4th Coffer feels like a myth. Tomorrow is another day. :(

How can you all suffer through it more than once?

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Originally Posted by Twilite

How can you all suffer through it more than once?

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the determination stat is high. I'm still running it trying to get it, myself. Thankfully my FC has opted into running with me as often as I want, so thats 7 less I have to roll against for it, though my luck has still been crap. 3 times, I've rolled 89-95 now, and had 1 96, and a 97 and I've lost it each time lol

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Originally Posted by Arlus

http://puu.sh/edjeH/dad5d411be.jpg http://puu.sh/edjiF/0ca6246fff.jpg
http://puu.sh/edjxD/5cc158c59e.jpg

Decided this was appropriate when I saw this thread.

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It's people like this that are the core problem. Does it make you feel good about yourself? What pleasure is there in knowing you just denied someone their goal? I seriously don't understand you people's way of thinking.