Fusilier (FSL)
Single-Target Ranged DPS
Weapon: Flintlock Pistols x2, with a pistol in each hand, Fusiliers can shoot faster and hit enemies with two attacks at once but their damage is weaker.
Auto-Attack: Physical Blunt, Range of 15 yalms. Preforms two strikes at once, each doing half damage.
Relic: Total Eclipses
Armor: Light Armor and Clothing
Limit Break: Ideally, a new Range DPS one, if not, Magical DPS will have to do. >A>
Cross Class: Musketeer, Archer, and Lancer
Important Stats: Dexterity and TP
Firing from afar, these trigger-happy gunners use a variety of trick shots and special bullets to snipe foes.
Mechanics, Skills, and Traits
Sniping
Fusiliers gain a 5% increase in Accuracy and Critical Hit when they use a Weapon Skill while standing still.
Ammo
Fusiliers can switch what type of ammo they use to effect their Weapon Skills. These take the form of Stances. Fusiliers can only use one ammo at a time, with the newly cast replacing the older. Each is Instant cast and has a recast of 2.5 seconds.
- Blast Ammo: Increase Damage Done onto foes that are with in 5 yalms of the user by 10% and increase the enmity they gain by x1.25 but decreases Damage Done to any foe passed 5 yalms by 10% and decrease the enmity they gain by x1.25.
- Burst Ammo: Weakens the potency of the user's Weapon Skills by 50% but doubles the number of times the target is damaged by Weapon Skills.
- Demolition Ammo: Increase the damage of single-target Weapon Skills by 20% but doubles their recast time and increases their enmity gain by x1.25.
- Flare Ammo: Makes Weapon Skills damage Magically but decreases the user damage dealt by 10% and increases their Weapon Skill's cast time by x1.5.
- Sniping Ammo: Increases the user's Accuracy by 20% but decreases their damage dealt by 10%.
Weapon Skills
- Big Shot: Damages a selected target, twice. Potency of 75. Instant cast time. 2.5 second recast.
- Hot Shot: Damages a selected target. Potency of 100. Instant cast time. 2.5 second recast.
Combo: Big Shot => Hot Shot: Damages a selected target, twice.
- Leaden Salute: Damages a selected target. Potency of 100. Instant cast time. 2.5 second recast.
Combo: Hot Shot => Leaden Salute: Damages a selected target, three times.
- Blitz: Damages a selected target, four times. Potency of 25, 45 when in front of the target. Instant cast time. 5 second recast.
- Sidewinder: Damages a selected target. Potency of 100, 150 when flanking target. Instant cast time. 5 second recast.
Combo: Blitz => Sidewinder: Potency of 200 when flanking and increases any Flanking damage done to the target by 10% for 20 seconds.
- Angermax: Damages a selected target, four times and increase the user's Damage Dealt by 5% for 5 seconds. Potency of 35. Instant cast time. 40 second recast.
- Endless Waltz: Damages a selected target, five times. Potency of 20. Instant cast time. 2.5 second recast.
Combo: AngerMax => Endless Waltz: Extends Angermax's Damage Dealt effect to 20 seconds.
- Sniper: Damages a selected target and lowers the target's Magical Damage by 10% for 10 seconds. Only one Sniper Effect can be on a target at a time. Potency of 100. Instant cast time. 80 second recast.
- Saboteur: Damages a selected target and places a DoT on them for 21 seconds. Potency of 40, 80 when used behind the target. Instant cast time. 2.5 second recast.
- Detonator: Damages a selected target and places a DoT on them for 18 seconds. Potency of 60. Instant cast time. 2.5 second recast.
- Show Off: Damages a selected target, twice, while the user jumps 10 yalms backwards. Must be at least 5 yalms close to the target. Potency of 40. Instant cast time. 30 second recast.
- Barrage: Damages a selected target, five times, pushing them 1 yalm per hit away from the user. Potency of 20. Instant cast time. 30 second recast.
- Pride Breaker: Damages a selected target and Binds them for 5 seconds. Potency of 50. Instant cast time. 12 second recast.
- Quarter-Pounder: Damages a selected target. Can only be used if they are at or below 20% HP. Potency of 190. Instant cast time. 15 second recast.
- Reckless Abandonment: Uses the remaining amount of the user's TP to damage a selected target a certain number of times based on how much TP was used (TP used x 0.01 = # of times damaged, round to the lowest, whole number). Potency of 35. Instant cast time. 30 second recast.
- Akimbo: Damages all foes with in 5 yalms of the user, three times. Potency of 30. Instant cast time. 5 second recast.
- Wildfire: Damages all foes with in 5 yalms of a selected target. Potency of 70. Instant cast time. 5 second recast.
Other Skills
- Quick Draw: Reduces the next Physical Attack done onto the user by 15% and damage the attacker. Potency of 150. Instant cast time. 120 second recast.
- Scope: Increases the user's Accuracy and Critical Hit by 10% for 20 seconds.
- Tactician: Increase Physical Flanked and Behind Damage Dealt onto the target by 10% for 30 seconds. Only one Tactician effect can be on a target at a time. Instant cast time. 120 second recast.
- Trigger Happy: Reduces the user's Weapon Skill cooldowns by half for 10 seconds but decreases their damage dealt by 10%. Instant cast time. 180 second recast.
Skill Level
1. Big Shot
2. Quick Draw
4. Hot Shot
6. Blast Ammo
8. Detonator
10. Pride Breaker
12. Sniper
*Quest* 15. Quarter-Pounder
18. Scope
22. Blitz
26. Leaden Salute
30. Saboteur
*Quest* 30. Sniping Shots
34. Tactician
*Quest* 35. Barrage
38. Show Off
*Quest* 40. Sidewinder
42. Burst Ammo
*Quest* 45. Reckless Abandonment
46. Angermax
50. Akimbo
*Quest* 50. Demolition Ammo
54. Wildfire
*Quest* 55. Flare Ammo
58. Endless Waltz
*Quest* 60. Trigger Happy
Cross Class
- Quick Draw
- Pride Breaker
- Detonator
- Scope
- Tactician
Traits
8. Enhanced Dexterity I: Increases the user's Dexterity by 2.
14. Enhanced Quick Draw: Shortens Quick Draw's cooldown to 90 seconds.
16. Enhanced Dexterity II: Increases the user's Dexterity by 4.
20. Enhanced Sniper: Shortens Sniper's cooldown to 60 seconds.
24. Enhanced Dexterity III: Increases the user's Dexterity by 6.
28. Enhanced Scope: Scope increases both Accuracy and Critical Hit by 20%.
32. Reload I: Restores 10% of the user's TP when they switch between Ammo after a Weapon Skill.
36. Courage Render: Adds a 3 second Stun to Pride Breaker.
40. Enhanced Tactician: Tactician Increases Physical Damage dealt while Flanking and/or Behind a selected target by 20% for 30 seconds.
44. Reload II: Restores 20% of the user's TP when they switch between Ammo after a combo.
48. Enhanced Quarter-Pounder: Allows Quarter-Pounder to be used when the target's HP is at or below 40%.
52. Enhanced Dexterity IV: Increases the user's Dexterity by 8.
56. Bullet Rain: Adds a 25% chance when the user Auto-Attacks or uses a Weapon Skill that damages more then once (minus DoTs), the target will take damage from it one more time.
60. Enhanced Wildfire: Increases Wildfire's Potency to 100.
Possible Rotation
Demolition Ammo => Scope => Trigger Happy => Angermax => Endless Waltz => Blitz => Tactician => Sidewinder => Saboteur => Detonator => Burst Ammo => Big Shot => Hot Shot => Leaden Salute => Repeat at Big Shot
Re-apply DoTs, buffs, and debuffs when needed/available, use Flare Ammo on enemies with higher Physical Defense, use Reckless Abandonment for a finisher or when you know you'll get Goad, Paeon, and/or Medi-Shell: Tonic, and use Quarter-Pounder when it's available.
Musketeer (MSK)
Single-Target, Burst Healer
Weapon: Flintlock Muskets, grants them the Dexterity they need for damaging enemies.
Off-Hand: Medi-Shell Bag, a bag that contains potions in bullet shells that allow the user to heal others. Grants them the Mind stats they need for Healing.
Auto-Attack: Physical Blunt, Range of 20 yalms
Relic: Peacemaker
Armor: Light Armor and Clothing
Limit Break: Healer
Cross Class: Fusilier, Archer, and Conjurer.
Important Stats: Mind for Healing, Dexterity for Damaging, TP for casting cost.
Using special bullets, these soldiers can both heal and damage a target from far away.
Mechanics, Skills, and Traits
Sniping
Musketeers gain a 5% increase in Accuracy and Critical Hit when they use a Weapon Skill while standing still.
Medi-Shells
Musketeers can use a variety of special bullets, called Medi-Shells, to heal others. Medi-Shells can be cast while moving but the user's Movement Speed will be lowered by 25% while casting.
Types of Medi-Shells
- Medi-Shell: Potion: A stance skill. Changes some of the user's Weapon Skills into Healing Skills but increases the skills' TP cost by x1.25, doubles their recast time, and lowers the user's damage dealt by 10%. Affected Weapon Skills use Mind. Instant cast time. 2.5 second recast.
- Medi-Shell: Ether: Restores 20% of a target's MP. 2 second cast time. 180 second recast.
- Medi-Shell: Tonic: Restores 300 TP to a selected target. 2 second cast time. 180 second recast.
- Medi-Shell: Renew: Places a Regen-like effect on a target for 20 seconds. Potency of 200. 2 second cast time. 2.5 second recast.
- Medi-Shell: Remedy: Removes one detrimental effect from a selected target. 2 second cast time. 2.5 second recast.
- Medi-Shell: Ward: Places a barrier on a selected target that will absorb the next detrimental effect placed on them. 2 second cast time. 4 second recast.
- Medi-Shell: Phoenix: Revives a fallen target to a weakened condition. 2.5 second cast time. 8 second recast.
- Medi-Shell: Convert: Uses all the user's MP and heals a selected target for that amount x1.25. Instant cast time. 2.5 second recast.
- Medi-Shell: Anesthetic: Turns the next attack placed on a target into a 30 second DoT, dispersing the original damage equally through the ticks. The DoT can NOT be cleansed or absorbed by barriers and some powerful attacks are not effected. 2 second recast. 180 second recast.
Weapon Skills
- Blast Shot: Damages a selected target. Potency of 150. Instant cast time. 2.5 second recast.
• Medi-Shell: Potion: Heals a selected target. Healing Potency of 400.
- Refulgent Burst: Damages a selected target. Potency of 100. Instant cast time. 2.5 second recast.
Combo: Blash Shot => Refulgent Burst: Potency of 200.
• Medi-Shell: Potion: Heals a selected target. Healing Potency of 200.
Combo: Medi-Shell: Potion Blast Shot => Refulgent Burst: Healing Potency of 300.
- Apex Blast: Damages a selected target. Potency of 100. Instant cast time. 2.5 second recast.
Combo: Refulgent Burst => Apex Blast: Potency of 250 and and increases Damage dealt to the target by 10% for 10 seconds.
• Medi-Shell: Potion: Heals a selected target. Healing Potency of 200.
Combo: Medi-Shell: Potion Refulgent Burst => Apex Blast: Healing Potency of 300 and decreases Damage dealt to a selected target by 10% for 20 seconds.
- Numbing Shot: Puts a selected target to Sleep for 10 seconds (Damaging them will NOT wake them up). Instant cast time. 40 second recast.
• Medi-Shell: Potion: Decreases Damage dealt onto a selected target by 10% for 20 seconds. 100 second recast.
- Black Out: Places Blind on a target for 20 seconds. Instant cast time. 5 second recast.
• Medi-Shell: Potion: Increases a target's Evasion by 10% for 20 seconds. 100 second recast.
- Scatterburst: Damages all foes within 5 yalms of a selected target. Potency of 100. Instant cast time. 5 second recast.
• Medi-Shell: Potion: Heals all party members with in 10 yalms of a selected target. Healing Potency of 250.
- Coronach: Damages a selected target. Can only be used if their at or lower then 20% HP. Potency of 200. Instant cast time. 20 second recast.
• Medi-Shell: Potion: Heals a selected target for 30% of their Max HP. Can only be used when their at or lower then 50%.
- Pummel: Damages a selected target. Can only be used in close range. Potency of 200. Instant cast time. 20 second recast.
- Coup de Grace: Damages a selected target and increases the Damage the target takes via DoTs by 10% for 30 seconds. Potency of 100. Instant cast time. 2.5 second recast.
- Toxic Shell: Damages a selected target and places a DoT on them for 18 seconds. Potency of 30 for the attack, 40 for the DoT. Instant cast time. 2.5 second recast.
- Inoculate: Places a Dot on a selected target for 21 seconds and reduces their damage output by 10% for 10 seconds. Potency of 45. Instant cast time. 2.5 second recast.
Other Skills
- Electroshield: Places a barrier on a selected target that will decrease Physical Damage done onto them by 10% and damage the attacker for 5 minutes. Potency of 10. Instant cast time. 5 second recast.
- Magicite: A Stance, turns all the user's TP cost to MP cost x1.5 and decreases their Damage Dealt by 10%. Instant cast time. 2.5 second recast.
- Pharmacy: Allows the user to use a selected Consumable item (Medicine and Food) from their inventory on a selected party member. Can use PVP Consumables outside of PVP. 2 second cast time. 10 second recast. This does NOT count toward the item's actual recast.
- Prime: Increases the user's Mind by 20% for 20 seconds. Instant cast time. 120 second recast.
- Propheteer: For 20 seconds, whenever the user defeats a foe or lands a critical hit, they will receive a Potion, Ether, or some Gil (25-599). Instant cast time. 40 seconds.
- Traveler: Restores the party's TP and MP by 1 for every time step the caster takes for 30 seconds. Cancels when the user damages an enemy (this does NOT include pre-existing DoTs). Instant cast time. 80 second recast.
Skill Level
1. Blast Shot
2. Medi-Shell: Potion
4. Toxic Shell
6. Propheteer
8. Apex Shot
10. Black Out
12. Pummel
*Quest* 15. Pharmacy
18. Medi-Shell: Remedy
22. Medi-Shell: Tonic
26. Refulgent Shot
30. Prime
*Quest* 30. Medi-Shell: Phoenix
34. Electroshield
*Quest* 35. Medi-Shell: Renew
38. Scatterburst
*Quest* 40. Medi-Shell: Ether
42. Inoculate
*Quest* 45. Medi-Shell: Ward
46. Numbing Shot
50. Magicite
*Quest* 50. Medi-Shell: Convert
54. Traveler
*Quest* 55. Coup de Grace
58. Coronach
*Quest* 60. Medi-Shell: Anesthetic
Cross Class
- Propheteer
- Black Out
- Prime
- Inoculate
Traits
8. Enhanced Mind I: Increases the user's Mind by 2.
14. Enhanced Mind II: Increases the user's Mind by 4.
16. Treasure Hunter I: Adds a 25% chance of receiving a Hi-Potion, Hi-Ether, Phoenix Down, or Gil (600-2000) when Propheteer is in effect.
20. Maim and Mend I: Increases base action damage and healing done by 10%.
24. Enhanced Mind III: Increases the user's Mind by 6.
28. Enhanced Black Out: Black Out now places a DoT on its target for 24 seconds. Potency of 35.
32. Treasure Hunter II: Adds a 25% chance of receiving an Icarus Wing, Remedy, or Stat Boosting Potion when Propheteer is in effect.
36. Item Lore I: Increases the amount of HP, MP, and/or TP restored by items (including those used via Pharmacy) by 10%.
40. Maim and Mend II: Increases base action damage and healing done by 30%.
44. Enhanced Prime: Shortens Prime's cooldown to 80 seconds.
48. Enhanced Scatterburst: Increases Scatterburst's Potency to 120 and Healing Potency to 300.
52. Enhanced Mind IV: Increases the user's Mind by 8.
56. Dispensary: Adds a 25% chance that when a consumable item is used (including used via Pharmacy), it won't disappear.
60. Item Lore II: Extends the time of a consumable item the user used by 40%.
Possible Rotation
Blast Shot => Refulgent Burst => Apex Blast => Black Out => Inoculate => Toxic Shell => Coup de Grace => Repeat at Blast Shot until DoT's and Coup de Grace are done
Use Magicite and Medi-Shell Tonic when low on TP, Use Pummel and Coronach whenever available, and Propheteer when you think you can get it off.
I also have another class/job thread that uses guns, Analyst => Blue Mage/Animist:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...e-Animist-Idea
Two Gun-Using Job Ideas
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11-18-2014, 03:33 PMMimiluTwo Gun-Using Job Ideas
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11-18-2014, 03:49 PMMimilu
There, posted all of it. :B
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11-18-2014, 04:36 PMTeslo
I'm always amazed at how much work people put into this knowing it will get glanced at and ignored (At best) by devs, but whatever gets you through the day. :P
I'm just glad you didn't say Chemist... -
11-18-2014, 04:47 PMMimiluIt only took two days to make these, my fastest yet. ; w ;Quote:
Originally Posted by Teslo
And I agree, Chemist would be a bad name for a battle class/job, when we have Alchemists already as crafters. -
11-18-2014, 05:40 PMDuelleMeh, I think the only reason why some of us have stopped is because we don't know anything about how the devs will approach class design with 3.0. Chances are more people would be pitching ideas if we had any idea of what they're planning to do with classes and jobs moving forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teslo
Not really. In the JP version of FF Tactics Chemists are actually アイテム士, or "item user". Could have called it apothecary or medic, I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimilu
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11-18-2014, 05:50 PMMirron
They could still just call it Chemist. It wouldn't really bother me honestly, the two are meant to be similar to each other anyways. It's not like anyone is going to get confused by the two really.
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11-18-2014, 05:59 PMEnkidoh
Well, considering the lore of the game already states Alchemists are healers (the ALC Guild doubles as a hospital), even though gameplay wise they are specifically Disciples of the Hand and thus have no use in battle, it still makes a hypothetical 'Chemist' healing class confusing in terms of title - but a slight name change would probably go a long way to solving that.
As for the OP's ideas, the 'Fusilier' class is somewhat redundant - why not just have Musketeer dual wield guns and thus role the two classes in together? In fact, the class icon for Musketeer that's been in the game in the Coral Tower since 1.0 actually shows dual pistols, and there are numerous npc MSKs in the game who dual wield flintlocks - Merlwyb is the obvious example. -
11-19-2014, 02:34 AMMimiluI was originally going to call Musketeers "Medic" but I liked the name Musketeer more, a Medic could have any weapon, were as a Musketeer has to have some form of Musket. Plus, Musketeer has been floating around since 1.0.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duelle
It's not that it would be confusing, it would just be weird that Chemists can fight but Alchemists can't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirron
I just didn't like that Musketeers used Flintlock Pistols and not actual Muskets. We haven't had any official verification that the few NPCs with the flintlock pistols are or are not Musketeers, so I figured I'd reinterpret them (plus, watching Merlwyb in action, can you really see her as a healer?).Quote:
Originally Posted by Enkidoh
Another reason I designed them the way I did was what roles they filled, Fusilier is a true ranged DPS (versus Bard, who is more support-based), while Musketeer is a TP-and-skill-using healer, trying to design a class that could cover both of these roles would be tricky and creating a DPS from a Healer or vice-versa would have a lot of problems. -
11-19-2014, 03:04 AMMageBlack
I like this for an idea, and it already exists in the FF universe. FFU Magun
But given the "Teaser" they gave us at the FanFest my money is on a variation of the Agent from FFT-2 -
11-19-2014, 03:05 AMMimiluBut I don't want to be a pervert like Al-Cid. ;w;Quote:
Originally Posted by MageBlack
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11-19-2014, 01:57 PMMimilu
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11-19-2014, 02:23 PMTharian
Flintlock Pistols and Muskets used Iron Ball Bearings for their Ammunition of various sizes. As such their ammunition actually caused bludgeoning damage not piercing. It wasn't until the development of the Minié Ball that you started to see actual bullets being employed by these types of guns as the Minié Ball, despite its name, was an early Bullet.
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11-19-2014, 02:53 PMMimiluHmmm, I should change the damage type to Blunt then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tharian
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11-19-2014, 03:33 PMTharian
Not that damage type actually matters in this game a whole heck of a lot. This isn't Final Fantasy XI.
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11-20-2014, 01:38 AMMimiluIts more of a min-maxing thing. As a Bard, you're damage gets increased when Dragoons uses their Disembowel combo (it's one of the few good things Dragoon has going for it).Quote:
Originally Posted by Tharian
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12-16-2014, 02:42 AMMimilu
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Musketeer
- Medi-Shell: Potion now doubles effects skills recast time. -
12-16-2014, 03:53 AMhallena
Here's a problem. Unless they change the way loot work dramaticly(spelling) in the expansion,(which they should) Cloth armor with dext is going to be nothing but an annoyance. There's already a problem right now about the game having too many class and too few bosses to spread the loot across. with ninja having their own set of armor for god know what reason, it's already incredibly rare to see what you want droped. Adding a whole new set of armor will do nothing but make things worse.
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12-16-2014, 04:15 AMDuelle
Well, since someone was nice enough to bump this thread, I'll repost something I put in the other musketeer thread. Either way none of this will matter in 5 days, but always fun to think of stuff:
Musketeer/銃術士
Mechanics - Musketeer can switch between pistol and musket, and some of their shots require one or the other.
Weapons - Kits: Kits are composed of pistol(s) and musket.
Abilities
01 Split Shot - Delivers two attacks with a potency of X per shot.
02 Hot Shot - Delivers an attack with a potency of X and places a DoT effect with a potency of X for 15 seconds. Additional Effect: Pistol.
04 Overcharge - Increases the cost of your next ability by 100% to make it a guaranteed critical. 2 minute cooldown.
06 Field Potion - Restores own HP. Cure potency 150. Potency scales with DEX. 2.5 second cast time. Can be cast while moving.
08 Trick Shot - Requires Pistol. Delivers an attack with a potency of X and one extra target with decreased potency.
10 Grenade - Delivers an area attack with a potency of 200. 4 yalm radius. 90-second cooldown.
12 Leg Shot - Places a 60% weight effect on enemy for 18 seconds. Weight potency decreases over time.
15 Aimed Shot - 2.5 second cast time. Delivers an attack with a potency of X. 10 second cooldown. Additional Effect: Musket.
18 Quickdraw - Changes your weapon from pistol to musket and vice versa. 10 second cooldown.
22 Barrage (MSK) - Requires Pistol. Channeled attack. Repeatedly shoot at target enemy over 9 seconds. 90 second cooldown.
26 Hair Trigger - Increases skill speed by 75%. 15 second duration. 2 minute cooldown.
30 Scattershot - Requires Musket. Delivers an attack with a potency of 100 to all enemies in a cone before you.
34 Gun and Run - Your next shot increases movement speed by 50% for 10 seconds.
38 Piercing Shot - Requires Pistol. Delivers an attack with a potency of X. Increases damage target takes from physical attacks by 10%. 25 second duration. 3 minute cooldown.
42 Tar Bomb - Creates a designated area in which enemies are afflicted with 30% weight. 18-second duration. 60-second cooldown.
46 Stock Strike - Stuns target enemy for 3 seconds. Requires melee range. 20-second cooldown.
50 Leaden Salute - Requires Musket. Delivers an attack with a potency of X. 3 seconds after target is affected, target explodes, dealing damage to all enemies near it.
Traits
08 Enhanced Dexterity (Musketeer) - Increases DEX by 2.
14 Quick Repeater - Your shots have a 15% chance to increase the potency of your next Split Shot.
16 Enhanced Dexterity II (Musketeer) - Increases DEX by 4.
20 Two-Gun - Allows the use of two pistols.
24 Ubercharge - Overcharge now increases the cost of your next ability by 75%.
28 Enhanced Grenade - Increases the radius of your grenades to 8 yalms.
32 Tactical Barrage - Increases TP regen rate while under the effect of Barrage (MSK).
36 Sniper Training - Your shots have a 10% chance to make your next Aimed Shot instant.
40 Enhanced Leg Shot - Your leg shot now places an 80% slow effect.
44 Enhanced Hair Trigger - Hair Trigger now increases skill speed by 150%.
50 Combustion - Using Hot Shot on enemies standing in a tar patch sets it on fire, dealing X potency damage every second for 6 seconds.
Achievements
Aim for the top, gun I-V: Attain musketeer level 10-50
Notes
* This musketeer is designed around built-in weapon swaps. I tried to make it as organic as possible, which is not an easy thing to do despite there being only two weapons.
* Part of why I decided "kits" should be MSK's weapon choice is because what we have seen so far are NOT muskets. They are flintlock pistols. Muskets are long-barreled weapons that were the precursor to the modern rifle, and it would be odd to call the double-barreled pistols the yellowjackets and Merlwyb use muskets.
* Kits also accomodate the MSK getting a second pistol to use once they hit lv20 without requiring additional weapons.
* The idea here is that your options are limited to the current weapon, with both weapons having roles within gameplay. Pistol shots are more for debuffing and minor damage, while musket shots are damage-focused. In doing so we'd be both accurate while also not letting the pistol models in-game go to waste.
* I do realize this would be more difficult to develop due to the need to animate two weapons. The best way (IMO) to unify the animations would be having both stand with the left foot front and the right foot back. When using a pistol the stance would be similar to that of how policemen pose/hold pistols (until you get the trait Two-Gun). The footwork happens to coincide with the posture used when firing a rifle/musket, so it would save the animators some time I would think.
* I have a feeling there should be some sort of benefit or mechanic to further encourage switches (like, say, being in pistol mode causes TP to regenerate faster while musket stops or greatly lowers TP regen or something). I'm just not too sure how to balance something like that.
* That said, I'll admit this concept was influenced a little by the gunners in Revelation Online and Lost Ark.
Chemist/アイテム士
Abilities
30 Combat Medic - Increases healing by X. Disables auto-attacks and prevents the use of abilities that switch you to or require Musket. Allows Split Shot and Barrage to be used on allies. Replaces Field Potion with Alchemist's Potion and Grenade with Mega-Potion Grenade. Effect ends upon reuse.
**Split Shot - Restores a little HP.
**Barrage - Restores HP over 9 seconds.
**Alchemist's Potion - Restores HP. 2.5 second cast time. Can be cast while moving.
**Mega-Potion Grenade - Restores HP of target and all allies within 8 yalms.
35 Remedy Dart - Removes one status ailment
40 Phoenix Pinion - Revives ally in a weakened state
45 Tranquilizer Dart - Puts target to sleep for 20 seconds (8 seconds in PvP)
50 Megalixir - Recovers 50% of target's max HP over 12 seconds
Quests
30 Practical Medicine
35 In the name of science
40 Affable Apothecaries
45 Unwanted Side-effects
50 A teaspoon of sugar...
50 A Relic Reborn: Mercury kit => Asclepius (final form)
Achivements
I bring them healing bullets - Complete the chemist job quest "A teaspoon of sugar..."
By the power of medicine - Obtain a mercury kit in the quest A Relic Reborn
Notes
* Chemist is designed around being more mobile than WHM or SCH.
* A CHM's options for healing would be Split Shot, Barrage for focused healing, Mega-Potion Grenade for AOE heals and Alchemist's Potion as their standard "cure"-type ability.
* Because CHM's main heal can be case while moving, I figure overall healing throughput should be split between Split Shot's healing bullets, alchemist's potion and what uptime is possible with Barrage.
Gunner/ガンナー
Abilities
30 Mortal Shot - Requires Musket. Delivers an attack with a potency of 200. Can only be used when target's HP is below 30%. 15 Second cooldown.
35 Quickshot - Delivers an attack with a potency of 10. Additional Effect: Silence. 35 second cooldown.
40 Juggle - Requires Pistol. Requires melee range. Delivers a channeled attack that slowly pushes target away from you. Additional Effect: Pacification.
45 Explosive Rounds - Your next 3 shots deal additional fire damage to target and enemies within 2 yalms.
50 Marked for Death - Increases physical damage taken by target by 10%. 2 minute cooldown.
Quests
30 The big iron
35 A gun gone gung-ho
40 On honeyed words
45 Arms of the angels
50 Showdown at high noon
50 A Relic Reborn: Exeter Kit => Fomalhaut Kit (final form).
Achivements
Three-Gun - Complete the gunner job quest "Showdown at high noon"
Arms gone wild - Obtain an exeter kit in the quest A Relic Reborn.
Notes
* I'm not ashamed to say I was thinking of westerns too much while coming up with the quests for gunner.
* I'm also not ashamed to say I'd want the AF would be something along the lines of what we saw with Vash the Stampede or Dante from Devil May Cry.
* With the above in mind, Juggle is meant to be a peeling ability that also does damage but puts you at risk since you have to stand still. As far as where I got the idea for juggle...well... (yes, I'm aware it looks silly) -
12-16-2014, 01:35 PMMimiluCOMPETITION!Quote:
Originally Posted by Duelle
Just kidding...Kind of... >w>
I do have a few questions/suggests though.
Musketeer
- Which weapon do Musketeers start out with before using their skills?
- Is there any difference other then access to certain skills between the two weapons? Like attack power or speed?
- Is the user stationary when Barrage is used and can it be canceled if I want to use a different skill?
- I would recommend boosting Field Potion's potency to around 200-220. Even without a cast time, you won't reach Cure's or Physick's healing potency (400) at 150.
Chemist
- I think replacing Tranquilizer Dart with some kind of utility skill like a group Damage Mitigation or Cure Potency boost might be better, seeing at this is already coming from a DPS class, it won't have as much problems dealing with enemies like Conjurer. That or give it to Musketeer. -
12-16-2014, 02:10 PMKrimzon
I don't understand why people go through all this effort to write out new class skills, stats, descriptions, ect. I mean sure I guess it can be fun but it's not like anyone at SE/FF14 development team is actually going to look at this and use these skills. By the time they even announce/hint at a new class they probably have everything or most of everything arleady written out.
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12-16-2014, 02:38 PMMimiluYou answered your own quandary. >w>Quote:
Originally Posted by Krimzon
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12-16-2014, 02:41 PMradioactive_lego
There's MGS if you wanna play wif guns.
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12-16-2014, 02:42 PMMimilu...Is Metal Gear Solid a fantasy MMORPG now? >o>Quote:
Originally Posted by radioactive_lego
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12-16-2014, 02:48 PMradioactive_legoIt is as much as FFXIV needs guns.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimilu
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12-16-2014, 02:52 PMMimiluThere are already guns in XIV, we as the players just haven't been given them yet. Plus, a gun using class has been planned since 1.0 and Yoshi P has been hinting at it.Quote:
Originally Posted by radioactive_lego
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12-16-2014, 04:38 PMKorilynn
I would love to see it be a combination of DPS and Healing. A combination of guns and magic! A gun mage/witch!
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12-16-2014, 04:48 PMDuellePistol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimilu
I'm thinking your autoshots deal more damage while in musket while they deal less with pistols. I wanted to also add a distance difference but that got too messy for my liking.Quote:
- Is there any difference other then access to certain skills between the two weapons? Like attack power or speed?
Yes.Quote:
- Is the user stationary when Barrage is used and can it be canceled if I want to use a different skill?
Tranq Shot is actually there for the sake of utility, similar to why WHM has repose and BLM has Sleep.Quote:
Chemist
- I think replacing Tranquilizer Dart with some kind of utility skill like a group Damage Mitigation or Cure Potency boost might be better, seeing at this is already coming from a DPS class, it won't have as much problems dealing with enemies like Conjurer. That or give it to Musketeer.
While this may be true, it definitely is fun to create something. There are also happy coincidences, which are nice but never expected.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krimzon
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12-17-2014, 08:25 PMMimiluWhat if Pistols were weaker by had a faster auto-attack rate to compensate?Quote:
Originally Posted by Duelle
I just think that compared to White Mage and Scholar, your Chemist is missing some sort of Damage Mitigation skill (Protect, Stoneskin, Adloquium, Succor, Sacred Soil). A control skill like a Sleep is nice but I think it would be better on the class versus the job.Quote:
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12-17-2014, 08:47 PMDuelleI personally wouldn't want to give gunner that type of utility. It just doesn't sit well with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimilu
I guess if CHM has to have some form of damage mitigation (though by design Stoneskin is a lot more inconvenient to cast than Adlo/Succor), I'd go the route of the drug whatshisname from the PGL quest smokes before he fights you. Another option would be a potion that restores HP when the targetted party member takes damage, though I wanted to save that mechanic for a different healer.
That's kind of where I'm at a loss. Assuming CHM uses TP to heal rather than MP, it would make sense for it to cross class stuff off lancer (invigorate) and pugilist (mainly Internal Release and Mantra). Likewise Gunner would probably be lifting stuff from archer (Raging Strikes, Quelling Strikes) and lancer (Invigorate).Quote:
Another question I forgot to ask was what would your jobs cross-skills be?
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12-17-2014, 09:12 PMBishop81Since everyone is posting off the wall ideas ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Korilynn
Cleric
Base Class: ACN or whatever new gun class /w Lv 15 ACN
Fighting Style: Gun-Kata
Weapons: Dual Pistols
A fighting style based on geometrical calculations. Pet (Carbuncle) and owner will work hand in hand to deal damage, with the Carbuncle setting up patterned Aetherfields around enemies empowering the Cleric's shots against said enemies.
Maybe have the state of the Aetherfield change with each shot fired into it, the Carbuncle's job would be creating the Aetherfields and maybe alter it's state to the benefit of the Cleric. -
12-17-2014, 10:29 PMLlenCoram
I've been pitching this idea at my friends. If MSK (or whatever it ends up being) is going to be a healer but it isn't magic based, then I imagine it would be something like a chemist or machinists - a class/job that combines items to make different stuff. The problem is of course SE doesn't like to use consumables for battle classes (see arrows being removed in 2.0).
One possible fix is to make it similar to how Ninja works. Give us four or five "item ingredient" actions that, when pressed in specific orders, create a buff or debuff or heal or whatever. So 1234 would be a heal, 1324 would be protect. Something like that.
Might be cool? Honestly after 4 years of waiting I just want my guns already. -
12-17-2014, 10:55 PMKorilynn
Just hope they take a queue from watching Yuna in Dead Fantasy and reading Kurohime.
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12-18-2014, 06:56 AMMimiluFor Chemist, I would think Pugilist and Conjurer. Conjurer's Cure would be a good thing for a TP based healer, seeing as they won't have any other use for MP (so long as they used Mind for healing). Plus you would also get Protect and Stoneskin. I would think Cure, Protect, Stoneskin, Internal Release, and Matra.Quote:
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For Gunner, I agree, Archer and Lancer is the best. Raging Strike, Quelling Strike, Hawkeye, Invigorate, and Blood for Blood. -
12-18-2014, 04:46 PMDuelleThis is the one point of combat design in which I am at odds with the developers. The devs have chosen to go by blanket rules for the most part, whereas I'm in favor of stat scaling per class. On that note, CHM scaling off MND would mean it shares gear with SCH and WHM, and I'm not sure I like that. I figured they'd scale differently. Like DEX when you are a musketeer or have the gunner crystal equipped increases your attack power. CHM would gain healing potency from DEX and a very minor increase to attack power, for example.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimilu