Shiva Battle are too bright and white

Don't get me wrong, the fight are awesome, and the difficult is there and much more enjoyable then Ramuh Extreme. It is almost up there with Titan Extreme, one of my favorite primal fight and Levi Extreme.

However, the whole theme is way too bright and how everything is white it blend together completely. All her AOE is white on white background. During Tank Swap, her weapon is all white and hard to tell it a staff or sword when she pull it out. ( The only reason I can tell the different between the two is because sword version have a shield attach to it. ) All her AOE and Attack Skill are also white. During add, the add are white and gunk together with Shiva, you can't tell anymore what is going on.

The fight only get a little better when the whole ground turn to a darker arena color again. The fight feel pretty cheap because you can't really tell what is going on. This fight is also hurting my eyes, and such a shame Shiva is one of the best Primal.

Check out you monitor settings. On my color calibrated device, I do not have such issues.

Add Summoner Shadowflame or Sacred Soil from Scholar - more blue on your Field

lol, people find something to complain about, this made me laugh :D

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Originally Posted by Evenstar

lol, people find something to complain about, this made me laugh :D

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I'm not complaining, it's a valid reason. Having white field with white aoe on the ground is bad.

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Originally Posted by Marisela

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why fix something not broke ?

the field is light blue & after 2h it is some what dark color (black) and outer is white, so white circlet fit well

Stone Vigil's had this problem for a while. So seeing how they didn't do anything about that, I don't see them doing anything about this.

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Originally Posted by Danbo05

Stone Vigil's had this problem for a while. So seeing how they didn't do anything about that, I don't see them doing anything about this.

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stone vigil have white aoe circlet ? not that I remember....is it story or HM and at what boss ?

i'm sure they are referring to story SV on the last boss. one of the major aoes it does coats 1/3rd and 2/3rd of them room depending how far his health is down if i recall.

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Originally Posted by Shneibel

stone vigil have white aoe circlet ? not that I remember....is it story or HM and at what boss ?

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story mode last boss

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Originally Posted by Kiara1

story mode last boss

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Link to the fight <--- at 5:21 it is very visible..... ._.

It's a blueish-white aoe on a grey-white snowy granite ground. It's distinct, but I could forgive folks with vision impairment for missing it.

Agreed on Stone Vigil. Final Boss AoE marker can be easy to miss.

Especially in the early days of Stone Vigil where people would run far away during his frostbite aoe circles. It'd cover most of the field and those can make it a bit hard to see sometimes too.

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Originally Posted by Marisela

All her AOE and Attack Skill are also white. During add, the add are white and gunk together with Shiva, you can't tell anymore what is going on.

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whated you expect from the Ice primal ^_^ black ice ^_^ as for your eyes i dont see how it hurts your eyes any more than titan ^_^

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Originally Posted by winxbloom61

whated you expect from the Ice primal ^_^ black ice ^_^ as for your eyes i dont see how it hurts your eyes any more than titan ^_^

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Yellow ice. :)

The only times I had a small issue with the fight is during her aoe that is similar to Titan's bombs. So much of it going on and the similarity makes it hard to see where the aoes actually end.

Then again it's probably because I've only seen the fight twice

The real ground has a darker stone look to it and stands out and is pretty obviously in my opinion. If the ground is white then don't stand on it. Both attacks that turn the ground white are bad. The big AoE's caused by her staff attack aren't even a problem since you all just run away from each other. The only one that is conceivably a problem is the one that applies the debuff if you get hit. In generally it targets the entire arena anyway and you're supposed to look at the pattern to discern how to move properly. It's more like Titan Ex's bombs than anything else.

Is your brightness or contrast set too high?

I only have an issue finding the safe spot during the first huge field set of circles, so I just stay in the middle to only get hit once. Outside of that it's not an issue

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Originally Posted by Marisela

I'm not complaining, it's a valid reason. Having white field with white aoe on the ground is bad.

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Is part of the fight. You people talk like the ones that designed the fight didn't notice that white aoe on white ground is hard to see. They know, they made it like that on purpose. Is all part of the challenge.

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Originally Posted by Edli

Is part of the fight. You people talk like the ones that designed the fight didn't notice that white aoe on white ground is hard to see. They know, they made it like that on purpose. Is all part of the challenge.

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This a lame excuse.

Greetings, everyone!

We will be proactively looking into making adjustments to improve visibility during the Shiva battle while we give consideration to the mechanics of the fight.

I agree with that the fight is too bright but it suits the theme, in my case it just gets way to bright for me but I fixed that by turning down the light settings to darker. The rest of the fight is easily done by just looking at certain details and memorization, you can easily see which weapon she picks with at least 3 different ways, 2 which is definitely not white.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Greetings, everyone!

We will be proactively looking into making adjustments to improve visibility during the Shiva battle while we give consideration to the mechanics of the fight.

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Please adjust the accessibility of the battle also, by putting it in the Solo Queue Duty Finder! It's on farm already, we are ready! Plz don't make us wait 6 months.

You can tell what weapon she's pulling out by the animation before she makes it. Twirl=staff. Up-down=sword n board.

I hate the part in the Shiva extreme fight where shes going to drop icicles and its a bunch of circles on the ground and a bunch of circles in the air so its IMPOSSIBLE to look at the ground with the camera high up in th eair looking down. I have to alter how i use my camera. Other than that the rest of the fight is fine. ITS JUST THOSE DAMN CIRCLES. Ground circles are perfectly fine, AIR CIRCLES ARE MESSED UP. GET RID OF THAT

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Originally Posted by Camate

Greetings, everyone!

We will be proactively looking into making adjustments to improve visibility during the Shiva battle while we give consideration to the mechanics of the fight.

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Thank you. I've had it on farm quite a while now and have basically everything but the mount, but when I was learning the fight I found it very difficult to see some things.

Can you also make it so that the Bow/Staff/Sword status effect is applied at the START of the weapon changing animation, not the end? One of the issues I had was that I was looking the status effects for the weapon switch, and for the Bow in particular, by the time the icon is in the statuses, it's too late to get out of Glass Dances way. I know the attack is 100% predictable, and now I've done the fight 100x I know exactly when it's coming, but not everyone will have the rotation memorized so will be playing on the fly.

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Originally Posted by Izsha

You can tell what weapon she's pulling out by the animation before she makes it. Twirl=staff. Up-down=sword n board.

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You can also tell by the line she says during the change, as an early indicator.

Staff form = "the cycle ends here and now"
Sword form = something about a blade forged in ice
Bow form = something about keeping us at bay

If you focus target her you can also tell because there is an icon that pops up under her name and shows exactly what she is pulling out. So you don't even have to look at the weapon if you don't want too.

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Originally Posted by ToffeeCoffee

Please adjust the accessibility of the battle also, by putting it in the Solo Queue Duty Finder! It's on farm already, we are ready! Plz don't make us wait 6 months.

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2.5 is not in 6 months
it will happen around january

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Originally Posted by SongJoohee

Can you also make it so that the Bow/Staff/Sword status effect is applied at the START of the weapon changing animation, not the end?

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She actually SAYS, with a speech bubble, which weapon she's switching to. changing the order of when the buff on her is applied seems silly for something that is literally telegraphed with "IMMA WHACKAYOU WIT MAH SWORD!" Especially since the speech bubbles are bigger than your buff icons.

I'm all for a bit of color pop on the circles (though I'm one of those that doesn't need them) but switching the order or timing of something can cause some serious problems, even if it's only half a second.

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Originally Posted by kyuven

I'm all for a bit of color pop on the circles (though I'm one of those that doesn't need them) but switching the order or timing of something can cause some serious problems, even if it's only half a second.

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I agree, that is the only part where my timing can be off a bit. Maybe if they made it a bit of a ice blue (darker) to stand off the white, like when the adds pop, would be nice. But now I'm so used it to I just know what to look for, though I still mess up now and then. XD

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Originally Posted by Camate

Greetings, everyone!

We will be proactively looking into making adjustments to improve visibility during the Shiva battle while we give consideration to the mechanics of the fight.

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The mechanic of the fight is fine. Please don't nerf it. It's already easy as it is. But better visual will help greatly. Such as deeper tint of blue AOE that doesn't blend into the background would help.

This fight is insultingly easy so I wouldn't bother rallying for a change but I do agree that the "bombs" are difficult to identify on the fly at times. Since you can just stand and ignore them though /shrug

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Originally Posted by Edli

Is part of the fight. You people talk like the ones that designed the fight didn't notice that white aoe on white ground is hard to see. They know, they made it like that on purpose. Is all part of the challenge.

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I can't help but feel that this is an incredibly immature post. Multiple visual effects have been changed by the dev team because they realised after implementation that the visual effects were not good enough. The difference is, the Battle team knows the effects they are looking for, before they see them. As they test, when you know what you are looking for, it's easy to see.

I acctually do not believe that the mechanic is meant to be hard to see. They want it to look good. The complaint about Stone Vigil I disagree with entirely. I've never had a problem. Mind, I'm not colour blind. It very accurately looks like Snow & Ice.

The only mechanic I've had trouble with is the rings in Shiva, and I'm getting better as I do the fight more. That's just familiarity. Fortunately, I'm in a gear category where I can plan to get hit by one ring and easily survive.

Mind, the post you responded to was also silly. I have previously been a "Complaint Manager" for a large electronics manufacturer (PC's, printers, TV's, etc) and plenty of the complaints I got were valid, and my job was to help the customer out. You ARE complaining, and it IS a valid complaint. Many people have expressed frustration at the difficulty of visually identifying open sspace during this mechanic.

Friend of mine is color blind and refuses to do the fight because of how the circle bombs blend. I can't say whether or not his impairment affects his ability to see the mechanic since everyone has trouble with it. Glad that a change is being looked into, because color blind players get dicked in many aspects of the game.

Somewhat unrelated, I found out during this fight that a different colorblind player who I'm also friends with cannot see the A waymark (red) on the bright blue. He can see B and C just fine. I always have to mark north with B which throws a lot of PF groups off. Not a huge deal but I'm sure a small change could be made to the waymarks so they are more colorblind friendly? (perhaps black or white outlines on the circle and letter). I think this would improve visibility for non-colorblind players as well since in fights like Titan the red or yellow can really blend in.

She has a completely different animation for the sword draw and the staff draw.
I don't think you need to look at the weapon or the buff, just look at Shiva.