So what do you think the level cap will be raised to with the expansion pack?

Well according this article they said that the expansion pack will be announced at the Fan Festival this year.
http://www.polygon.com/2014/6/11/580...n-pack-e3-2014

So with that being said, what do you think the level cap will be raised to? Do you think it will be 5 level or 10 levels? Also, since patch 2.5 is still planned before 3.0 That means we can expect 2.5 in March/April 2015. So the expansion pack may be released in Quarter 3/4 2015? Do you think it will be 10 levels? Or will it be more or less?

I'm guessing it's going to be 10. Not for any special reason other than because it sounds like a solid number.

thought they said they were going to raise the level cap to 60 when they release 3.0

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Originally Posted by ShiloEET

Well according this article ...

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I didn't read the lv cap will be raised...

I was betting 25

Next expansion = 60 then it's 75 then 80 :p

I know XI was also originally 50 and raised by 5 and by the time of NA release it was 75.

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Originally Posted by Nicobo

I didn't read the lv cap will be raised...

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What? You think they will keep you level 50 forever.

with the addition of ivls, im very curious about raising the actual level here.. considering most things below level 50 couldnt get over its ilvl unless it was special gear such as colliseum gear. but level 50 has up to i110 and soon to be even higher. with the raise of this level cap how will ilvl work? ilvls in this game can completely destroy raising the levels in this game if they do it wrong, i only hope they know what they are doing

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Originally Posted by LeeraSorlan

with the addition of ivls, im very curious about raising the actual level here.. considering most things below level 50 couldnt get over its ilvl unless it was special gear such as colliseum gear. but level 50 has up to i110 and soon to be even higher. with the raise of this level cap how will ilvl work? ilvls in this game can completely destroy raising the levels in this game if they do it wrong, i only hope they know what they are doing

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You probably haven't played many MMOs but this is common. WoW is looking to enter ilevel 600. When the level cap is raised - the item level will of a level 51 piece of equipment will most certainly be higher than 100.

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Originally Posted by ShiloEET

What? You think they will keep you level 50 forever.

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What do you think this is, DCUO? Where the level cap is replaced with an eternally increasing item level system?

But seriously, I'm betting on a 10-level cap increase across the board. Which may or may not end up causing a lot of hardcore endgame crafters/gatherers to be very upset as their months of work to get Supra tools gets completely nullified.

I imagine it'll be a 10 level bump to 60, but who knows, they could pull a FFXI and run all the way to 75, but I doubt it.

For the ilvl system, I think they've said that you should think of it separate from class/ job level entirely and that it's just another attribute of equipment tied to the required level. Basically level 50 gear with an ilvl of 100 may be weaker than level 53 gear with an ilvl of 53 (maybe it won't be, but basically don't expect lvl 55 vendor gear to be the same as ilvl 55 gear). Basically I think they'll make it so ilvl is only meaningful when you know the required level as well so lvl50/ilvl130 <= lvl60/ilvl60 in terms of stats, except I expect defense to scale up better with required level.

I'm at least hoping this is the case, otherwise crap gear at 60 is already gonna be ilvl 150 or higher and by 4.0 we'll be at ilvl 230+

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Originally Posted by HakuroDK

What do you think this is, DCUO? Where the level cap is replaced with an eternally increasing item level system?

But seriously, I'm betting on a 10-level cap increase across the board. Which may or may not end up causing a lot of hardcore endgame crafters/gatherers to be very upset as their months of work to get Supra tools gets completely nullified.

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I'd actually expect that the expansion will usher in a quest to upgrade your Supra (or whatever it is at that point) yet again to be level appropriate. Quite possibly the same for relic weapons too.

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Originally Posted by HakuroDK

What do you think this is, DCUO? Where the level cap is replaced with an eternally increasing item level system?

But seriously, I'm betting on a 10-level cap increase across the board. Which may or may not end up causing a lot of hardcore endgame crafters/gatherers to be very upset as their months of work to get Supra tools gets completely nullified.

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Lol! I imagine they'd wipe their tears away with all the Gil they've earned. On a serious note though, it doesn't take that long to get supras, especially if you desynth your own fc3/mc...but eh, I tend to sell them since gil is nicer to have than a minimal upgrade. That's just me, though. Agree with you on the 10 levels :p

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Originally Posted by Exstal

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Originally Posted by LeeraSorlan

with the addition of ivls, im very curious about raising the actual level here.. considering most things below level 50 couldnt get over its ilvl unless it was special gear such as colliseum gear. but level 50 has up to i110 and soon to be even higher. with the raise of this level cap how will ilvl work? ilvls in this game can completely destroy raising the levels in this game if they do it wrong, i only hope they know what they are doing

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Uh well most pre-50 content has no real item level requirement. So this will probably continue for the dungeons of the expansion pack.

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Originally Posted by DefendPopPunk

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Originally Posted by HakuroDK

But seriously, I'm betting on a 10-level cap increase across the board. Which may or may not end up causing a lot of hardcore endgame crafters/gatherers to be very upset as their months of work to get Supra tools gets completely nullified.

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Fun fact: As a fisher, my Supra tool took me about an hour to get the fishable materials for. It's the ~3 million gil cost for the demimateria that is a kick in the nuts (And that's after the 2.38 easy Fieldcraft IIIs ; prior to that it would've easily cost me 6-7 mil).

But stuff getting obsoleted is pretty common for Crafters/Gatherers. I suspect it'll all still be useful even after a level cap increase - most progression has been in a "You need all this to score your next upgrades anyway" system, so we'll still likely have a significant head start; it'll just be easier for the people coming later to play catch up.

I am guessing like majority of mmorpgs who received a expansion, its probaly going to be either 5 levels or 10 levels. The first expansion tend to have 10 levels.

From my understanding the raising of the level cap is to facilitate the introduction of new job abilities. The levl cap will likely rise, imo, by the amount needed for the number of abilities, based on the ability distribution we already have (a new class ability every 4 levels, and a new job ability every 5 levels). Level 55 would give us 2 new abilities, level 60 would give use 4 new abilities, but level 70 could be 9 new abilities. Assuming things proceed like existing content.

I've only heard them mention that one new skill was coming per class, that would suggest a cap raise of 5lvls. I hope its more though... the expansion is supposed to have as much content as 2.0 and it'll be hard to fit all that in with just 5 levels.

People expect the physical levels to go, but Yoshi-P probably means Item level cap will go up.

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Originally Posted by Everdark

the expansion is supposed to have as much content as 2.0 and it'll be hard to fit all that in with just 5 levels.

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That'll depend on the amount of experience needed per level more so than the actual amount of levels.

It'll mainly be dependent of their long-term plans for the game. How many expansions do they want to introduce, what level do they want to attain at maximum. What figure sounds not too daunting for newer players who join in late? Back in the old days of MMO's games tended to cap out at 99, 120, 150, or even higher. For newer players this sounded like a steep climb to make, just to get to the fun. And games tended to be left aside.

Just for that I wouldn't be surprised to see them go by increments of 5. Ensuring that e.g. 8 years from now the level cap is not much higher than 75 or 80.

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Originally Posted by ShiloEET

What? You think they will keep you level 50 forever.

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Didn't mean forever, just said the fact i didn't read that on the link... ^^;
I knew 3.0 should have lv increase. I think, it could be increased to lv100.
Otherwise everyone will cap all jobs on the next day.

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I read 3.0 would have lv increase on the letter from producer

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Originally Posted by Everdark

I've only heard them mention that one new skill was coming per class, that would suggest a cap raise of 5lvls. I hope its more though... the expansion is supposed to have as much content as 2.0 and it'll be hard to fit all that in with just 5 levels.

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That's strange, how are summoners going to get all of their egis if we all only get one new ability? I know they said every class is being updated the same in terms of amounts of new skills and they probably don't want to give every job three or four (depending on if they would give a Mog-egi) new skills, but I personally think it'll slight summoners if for whatever reason they can't summon each of the primals as an egi. Though I think they did say summoners and scholars are getting the biggest changes when the expansion hits.

I wonder too if they'll be increasing our player level to increase our base stats and to get new skills, yet gear will stay at level 50 and the ilv will just increase. It would let new players catch up quickly (which SE seems to favor) and even though it doesn't make sense, SE has made some... questionable development choices.

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Originally Posted by Nicobo

Didn't mean forever, just said the fact i didn't read that on the link... ^^;
I knew 3.0 should have lv increase. I think, it could be increased to lv100.
Otherwise everyone will cap all jobs on the next day.

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Yeah, that's what i said! Level 100 would be a legendary move...

http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/4442...dreams-of-ice/

This site states it will be a potential increase to item level, not level.

OVER NINE THO-...

Sorry, wrong universe.

I think I'd actually prefer it if the lvl cap stayed at 50, and the iLv just continued to increase. iLv pretty much accomplishes the same thing anyway.
Long-term, it makes it easier for new players to get into the game and get to endgame without such a daunting amount of lvls to plow through.

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Originally Posted by Nevaldus

http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/4442...dreams-of-ice/

This site states it will be a potential increase to item level, not level.

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Anyway, I read YoishiP said "However, at the least, I can tell you that the level cap will be increased" ^^;

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...809-11-2014%29


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Q: In a previous Letter from the Producer LIVE you mentioned that you might be making changes to the class/job system in 3.0. Can you tell us about this?

A: Right now there is no information I can share. However, at the least, I can tell you that the level cap will be increased and in addition to the growth granted by increased levels, there may be a few other changes in the future as well. There definitely won't be any large-scale changes to the system you've seen up until now, but there may be some aspects with new elements that don't follow all of the current rules of the game.
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ah, i apologize for missing that, so we CAN expect the level cap increase in 3.0 , however that's a long while off yet ^^

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Originally Posted by Dyne_Fellpool

I think I'd actually prefer it if the lvl cap stayed at 50, and the iLv just continued to increase. iLv pretty much accomplishes the same thing anyway.
Long-term, it makes it easier for new players to get into the game and get to endgame without such a daunting amount of lvls to plow through.

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IMO, it was more difficult to lv up previously, then it added roulettes exp bonus and the log book for easier exp,
I think upon lv cap raising, level to 50 would be much more easier than now.
TBH I tho i-LV was the extension of char lv by design intentionally, but YoshiP said no. ^^;

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Originally Posted by Dyne_Fellpool

I think I'd actually prefer it if the lvl cap stayed at 50, and the iLv just continued to increase. iLv pretty much accomplishes the same thing anyway.
Long-term, it makes it easier for new players to get into the game and get to endgame without such a daunting amount of lvls to plow through.

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My problem with an idea like that is that i'm looking for the opportunity to spend more stat disbursement points.

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Originally Posted by ShiloEET

Also, since patch 2.5 is still planned before 3.0 That means we can expect 2.5 in March/April 2015. So the expansion pack may be released in Quarter 3/4 2015?

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We get a patch roughly every 3 months. 2.4 is scheduled for end of October. 2.5 therefore would be January... given that 2.5 is the final patch before the expansion the exp pack would likely be released no later than April 2015. I don't know why people keep assuming it'll be end of next year. The current release schedule is pretty easy to work out.

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Originally Posted by Nutz

I'd actually expect that the expansion will usher in a quest to upgrade your Supra (or whatever it is at that point) yet again to be level appropriate. Quite possibly the same for relic weapons too.

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They mentioned one would not need to clear primals/Coil etc to enter new content in 3.0. I would not be consequent if this would not apply for craft/gather stuff. I too wonder what decision they'll make.

Im going with 25 extra levels.

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Originally Posted by LadyVal

That's strange, how are summoners going to get all of their egis if we all only get one new ability? I know they said every class is being updated the same in terms of amounts of new skills and they probably don't want to give every job three or four (depending on if they would give a Mog-egi) new skills, but I personally think it'll slight summoners if for whatever reason they can't summon each of the primals as an egi. Though I think they did say summoners and scholars are getting the biggest changes when the expansion hits.

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I am willing to bet Summoners will not be getting all the egi from primals. I foresee 2 added egi, Levi and Shiva. I very much doubt there will be a king mog or ramu egi.

So I would say 10 level addition is about right.

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Originally Posted by DefendPopPunk

I'm guessing it's going to be 10. Not for any special reason other than because it sounds like a solid number.

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Kinda feeling like 10 as well. BTW, Love your sig. ADTR some good stuff.

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Originally Posted by Alberel

We get a patch roughly every 3 months. 2.4 is scheduled for end of October. 2.5 therefore would be January... given that 2.5 is the final patch before the expansion the exp pack would likely be released no later than April 2015. I don't know why people keep assuming it'll be end of next year. The current release schedule is pretty easy to work out.

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Are the patches every 3 months? For some reason i thought it was longer.

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Originally Posted by ShiloEET

Are the patches every 3 months? For some reason i thought it was longer.

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Yes they are about roughly every 3 months.

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Originally Posted by ShiloEET

Are the patches every 3 months? For some reason i thought it was longer.

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It is. Their intention is every 3 months, but usually it turns into around 110 - 120 days. So somewhere May - June 2015 would be more likely for the expansion pack to his if that pace is kept up. With in that case it still being fresh directly prior to E3 may not be a bad thing either.

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Originally Posted by Fornix

It is. Their intention is every 3 months, but usually it turns into around 110 - 120 days. So somewhere May - June 2015 would be more likely for the expansion pack to his if that pace is kept up. With in that case it still being fresh directly prior to E3 may not be a bad thing either.

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I think the patch delays thus far have been attributed to things like developing the PS4 client, the Chinese client, and the DX11 client in sequence. Once everything is finally uniform, I'm sure that the development time between patches will drop.