So i got every crafting class to 16

Okay I decided to become a master crafter or sort (mainly because of the massive gil they can make, also furniture) and I have gotten the classes to at least 16, with CUL around 26, WVR almost at 25, and GSM and LWR nearing 20.

Basiclay I gotten all the level 15 crossclass abilites and I;m wondering:

• What crossclass abilities are the best for HQ items (besides Hasty Touch and maybe Tricks of the Trade)?
• And how to progress at a point where you need to gather or buy on MB to make items at your level, (Note that I;m also doing the Ixal quests but I'm focusing the experience on CUL until I can get Steady Hand II)

Crp 50 for byregots blessing.
WVR 50 for careful synthesis II
GSM 50 for innovation
ALC 50 for comfort zone
.....think that about covers 2 star 100% HQ, if u got all the crafters at 15 that is.

If you wanna do 3 star I'd just recommend getting them all to 50. You won't need them all at 50 for furniture however, since no HQing those. Recomending lvl 50 ARM for piece by piece and lvl 50 bsm for ingenuity II if you wanna go down the furniture only route.

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Originally Posted by Sessurea

Crp 50 for byregots blessing.
WVR 50 for careful synthesis II
GSM 50 for innovation
ALC 50 for comfort zone
.....think that about covers 2 star 100% HQ, if u got all the crafters at 15 that is.

If you wanna do 3 star I'd just recommend getting them all to 50. You won't need them all at 50 for furniture however, since no HQing those. Recomending lvl 50 ARM for piece by piece and lvl 50 bsm for ingenuity II if you wanna go down the furniture only route.

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So CUL (surprise surprise) and LWR are entirely optional for Master Crafting?

Anyway I stil plan on maxing the classes, but this should help set a priority list further down the line

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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

So CUL (surprise surprise) and LWR are entirely optional for Master Crafting?

Anyway I stil plan on maxing the classes, but this should help set a priority list further down the line

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actually... no xD
LTW at 50 has Waste Not II, and it's very useful
as for Culinarian, at lv 37 you get Steady Hands II ( that is a must have for master crafting) and, at lv 50, Reclaim ( while this is not a must-have cross class, it can still be useful if you see that you are going to botch the syntesis xD)

I'm not sure I agree that Waste Not II is all that useful, but Steady Hands II is almost as important as Byergot's Blessing. The extra 10% success rate it grants over Steady Hands is VERY noticable; it's nice to have Basic Touch become 100% reliable.

Reclaim becomes useful as you delve into three-star recipes that use expensive ingredients. There's pretty much no guaranteed reliable method for HQing these, and it's nice to have a fallback option if it's clear that too much bad luck has struck at once.

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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

So CUL (surprise surprise) and LWR are entirely optional for Master Crafting?

Anyway I stil plan on maxing the classes, but this should help set a priority list further down the line

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I said all crafters at 50 for 3 star HQ xD

I'd say:
Culinarian to 38
Weaver to 50
Carpenter to 50
Alchemist to 50 (for furniture only, put alchemist higher than carpenter on the list)
Goldsmith to 50 or blacksmith to 50 (for furniture, blacksmith first)
Armorer to 50
Leatherworker to 50
Culinarian to 50

If you wanna be a serious crafter, all classes to 50. I recommend doing them in batches. First I did culinarian, weaver, alchemist and goldsmith (for no reason) and got my artisan's spectacles with culinarian. Then I leveled carpenter, leatherworker, blacksmith and armorer.

Imho, leatherworker is not as important to get to 50. I find myself using WNII very little, if at all when you have the CP available for GSM's manipulation. Combined with ALC's TotT, its a lot more flexible than WNII with good procs.

WN and WNII are both much more useful inside of macros than in manual rotations. when macroing, tot usage is kind of ignored, so there are less spots for "Wasted" hits. A macro combo of:
SH2
WN2
hasty
hasty
hasty
hasty
SH2
hasty
hasty
hasty

wastes almost nothing, and the "round up" of a 5 dur means that it truly wastes nothing, as long as you never get back up to full durability.

That said, the moment you use a ToT move during WN2, it is more expensive than any of the other choices.

This comes from someone that spends a lot of time semi afk while crafting cheap mats, Watching Netflix and pressing a macro button monotonously.

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Originally Posted by Defteros

actually... no xD
LTW at 50 has Waste Not II, and it's very useful
as for Culinarian, at lv 37 you get Steady Hands II ( that is a must have for master crafting) and, at lv 50, Reclaim ( while this is not a must-have cross class, it can still be useful if you see that you are going to botch the syntesis xD)

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Wonder if Reclaim is active all the time or only for a specific amount of steps? (Tooltip doesn't specify)
Also, can it be used as Disconnect protection for highly valuable crafts?

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Originally Posted by Granyala

Wonder if Reclaim is active all the time or only for a specific amount of steps? (Tooltip doesn't specify)
Also, can it be used as Disconnect protection for highly valuable crafts?

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Reclaim lasts the entire craft.

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Originally Posted by Granyala

Wonder if Reclaim is active all the time or only for a specific amount of steps? (Tooltip doesn't specify)
Also, can it be used as Disconnect protection for highly valuable crafts?

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You technically can, unless that 10% rears its ugly head (it only boosts reclaim chance to 90%). And the 50 cp cost is still pretty hefty, esp when it comes to HQing star crafting. Though I'd imagine CP is not as important when it comes to crafting 3* furniture or glamour items (like the primal demimaterias).

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Originally Posted by RiceisNice

You technically can, unless that 10% rears its ugly head (it only boosts reclaim chance to 90%). And the 50 cp cost is still pretty hefty, esp when it comes to HQing star crafting. Though I'd imagine CP is not as important when it comes to crafting 3* furniture or glamour items (like the primal demimaterias).

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Rumination gives you the CP you need for a Reclaim.

Thanks, good to konw. :)

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Originally Posted by Lebenoshl

Rumination gives you the CP you need for a Reclaim.

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I was speaking in context to the quoted reply; Using reclaim as a contingency plan of sorts incase of a DC (where'd you want to use it as soon as possible).

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Originally Posted by RiceisNice

You technically can, unless that 10% rears its ugly head (it only boosts reclaim chance to 90%). And the 50 cp cost is still pretty hefty, esp when it comes to HQing star crafting. Though I'd imagine CP is not as important when it comes to crafting 3* furniture or glamour items (like the primal demimaterias).

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CP is actually more important for 3* crafting, because their difficulty necessitates using things like Piece by Piece and the elemental brands, which require CP. Reclaim is worthless in 3* crafting and you will lose far more money from a Reclaim fail than just making it NQ.

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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

So CUL (surprise surprise) and LWR are entirely optional for Master Crafting?

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Correct, they are both totally optional.

I personally think WN2 is the most useless lvl50 skill we get and would never waste a cross-class skill slot on it, as things stand currently.

Reclaim has it's uses but it's very risky and limited.

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Originally Posted by scarebearz

Correct, they are both totally optional.

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CUL 50 is optional.

CUL 37 is not. Steady Hands II is very important.

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Originally Posted by LineageRazor

CUL 50 is optional.

CUL 37 is not. Steady Hands II is very important.

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As they were talking about the lvl50 skills, I thought it was a given, but you are right.

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Originally Posted by scarebearz

As they were talking about the lvl50 skills, I thought it was a given, but you are right.

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No prob, just wanted to make sure there was no confusion on that point. :)