Ninja, the new Dragoon?

I saw that ninja had a few abilities that involved jumping or teleporting to the target. Will they be animation locked? If they are, I guess we can start to expect a lot of dead ninjas who can't get out of aoe in time.

Looks like the dragoons won't be alone anymore.

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Originally Posted by Pantz

Looks like the bad dragoons won't be alone anymore.

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fixed it for you

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Originally Posted by Itseotle

fixed it for you

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inb4 LoLNIN ?

Its not even the animation lock that's gonna kill them. Its just gonna be the fact that they're still not able to dodge a brick, even with a movement bonus that other classes don't get.

I'm not quite so pessimistic myself; but that being said, the really funny part is that one of Rogue's abilities is to jump on the monster's head and stab it. Assuming - which is dangerous - that this actually updates the character's position, that forces him into any circular AoEs for the entire duration of the ability. So... you know.... don't use that on any Cyclops, Chimera, most Trial bosses, Peistes.

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Originally Posted by Hulan

I'm not quite so pessimistic myself; but that being said, the really funny part is that one of Rogue's abilities is to jump on the monster's head and stab it. Assuming - which is dangerous - that this actually updates the character's position, that forces him into any circular AoEs for the entire duration of the ability. So... you know.... don't use that on any Cyclops, Chimera, most Trial bosses, Peistes.

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What if this move actually becomes a dodge mechanic? IE during this animation AOE's have no effect on the player.

The actual teleporting thing looks like it will be really clumsy to use on controller. Like all those other ground targeting abilities, I'l probably teleport right off platforms ;x

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Originally Posted by JakzChurchill

What if this move actually becomes a dodge mechanic? IE during this animation AOE's have no effect on the player.

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then it would be unfair with dragoons, since jumping literally takes you far far away from bosses actual range.

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Originally Posted by JakzChurchill

What if this move actually becomes a dodge mechanic? IE during this animation AOE's have no effect on the player.

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Dragoons asked for this before. In XI "Super Jump" shed hate and dodged all attacks. They were told no. I think they said it would be unfair or something. So if they put it in for Ninjas..

melee classes have disadvantages in this game with all those grounded AoEs from the enemies.

sure, good melee players will be fine but what if you compare those "good" melee players to "good" ranged class players?

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Originally Posted by Tule

Dragoons asked for this before. In XI "Super Jump" shed hate and dodged all attacks. They were told no. I think they said it would be unfair or something. So if they put it in for Ninjas..

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But the timing on the ninja move would be critical, your not on the head for long and you would have to take lag into account, so if screw up your timing your gonna get dragooned. adds a bit of balance.

Dragoon really needs illusive jump cooldown shortened by a lot tbh, would allow dragoons to make use of dodging towards and away from the enemy.

For all we know Ninja could be overpowered mmorpgs tend to make new classes overpowered.

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Originally Posted by Itseotle

fixed it for you

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Ya the hating on Dragoons need to stop or else players will never learn the difference between a Good player and a Bad Player.

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Originally Posted by JakzChurchill

But the timing on the ninja move would be critical, your not on the head for long and you would have to take lag into account, so if screw up your timing your gonna get dragooned. adds a bit of balance.

Dragoon really needs illusive jump cooldown shortened by a lot tbh, would allow dragoons to make use of dodging towards and away from the enemy.

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Jump doesn't cast for long either.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

melee classes have disadvantages in this game with all those grounded AoEs from the enemies.

sure, good melee players will be fine but what if you compare those "good" melee players to "good" ranged class players?

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Um, sorry but ranged has as many things to dodge as melee. Most bosses actually have long range attacks that only aim for distant targets. Also ranged have a massive disadvantage with cone AoEs like Bad Breath, since they have to run further to get out of the marker. No one has it "worse", dodging is hard for everyone.

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Originally Posted by Tule

Jump doesn't cast for long either.

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But jump doesn't have an dodge mechanics so I don't see your point. I'm saying if the jump on head ability was a dodge mechanic for aoes, it would have a very small window to be done effectively so it wouldn't be a definite dodge every time, and would have a bit of balance with dragoon not having this attack/dodge.

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Originally Posted by givemeraptors

Um, sorry but ranged has as many things to dodge as melee. Most bosses actually have long range attacks that only aim for distant targets. Also ranged have a massive disadvantage with cone AoEs like Bad Breath, since they have to run further to get out of the marker. No one has it "worse", dodging is hard for everyone.

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I play BLM as my main, and DRG is next in line gear wise - ranged is far easier to play in most cases. I think all the DRG jump abilities need their cooldowns cut in half. The damage a jump does isn't really that amazing compared to a normal strike - the only advantage is it can be used in between rotation hits. Being able to escape AOE's and quickly get back into the fight via jumps would be amazing. Right now you can do it once every 2-3 fights in a typical dungeon. I feel like DRG's should spend a lot more time in the air.

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Originally Posted by Brightshadow

For all we know Ninja could be overpowered mmorpgs tend to make new classes overpowered.

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like smn/sch was OP? lol


that attack is a risk , u are going to be stuck for 2s in front of the mob (cleave) + melee aoes.....

Ninjas will need tank acc cap :P

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Originally Posted by EdwinLi

Ya the hating on Dragoons need to stop or else players will never learn the difference between a Good player and a Bad Player.

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Good Dragoon, In FC/lS

Bad Dragoon All others.