So 2.38 is coming next week?

According to this http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...ea5acf79d10f53

2.38 is coming next week. Wasn't it anticipated after TGS indeed?

I believe they said it would be either just before or after TGS, but it makes sense that they would want to get it out before so they have more to talk about at TGS, along with their 2.4 plans (probably doesn't hurt to get it out the same day Archeage releases either).

Why should it after TGS? It is not a main patch.

earlier than i expected

They'll show only 2.4 at TGS, so it's in time :D

Nice catch! I expected it around the 18th, based on what SE was saying, though I assumed they would be late. This is a pleasant surprise.

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Originally Posted by Archadius

Read the text carefully. It says "to accompany patch 2.38". This is not indication that the patch will be implemented at this date, only that they are taking precautionary measures with an "All Worlds Maintenance". The patch likely won't hit until Tuesday the 23rd. Would be nice to get it on the 16th though.

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It's the exact same wording they used to announce the 2.35 maintenance and the 2.3 maintenance, which both happened on the day of their respective patches (2.35, 2.3).

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Originally Posted by Bixby

It's the exact same wording they used to announce the 2.35 maintenance and the 2.3 maintenance, which both happened on the day of their respective patches (2.35, 2.3).

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Yeah I just noticed that haha

It was anticipated to be timed with TGS. This could have been a few days before or after the event.

If you haven't realized, they tend to time patches around RL events that they hold around the world, so it supplements what info they wish to share at these very events. Now that 2.38 will drop a couple of days before the TGS, you will see Yoshi-P mention information about said patch and then shift his focus to the next upcoming patch, 2.4. I can only imagine the way they time these patches allows them to start giving us more and more information about upcoming major patches, because the minor patches will never have to be mentioned again.

2.4 Will very likely be timed around the first Fan Fest, with 2.48 being timed around Japan's Fan Fest in December.

<----needs info on personal housing

Uh so.. about this:

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[Date & Time]
Sep. 15, 2014 3:00 to Sep. 16, 2014 11:00 (GMT)

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Is that 0300 meaning 3am, or is that 3pm? And is that 11am or 11pm?

That's a long long time to be down for maintenance, even if you look at the least amount of time that those times could be (3pm to 11am). Remember, it starts on the 15th and ends on the 16th. That's a minimum of 20 hours scheduled downtime. o_o;

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Originally Posted by Ecks007

Uh so.. about this:

Is that 0300 meaning 3am, or is that 3pm? And is that 11am or 11pm?

That's a long long time to be down for maintenance, even if you look at the least amount of time that those times could be (3pm to 11am). Remember, it starts on the 15th and ends on the 16th. That's a minimum of 20 hours scheduled downtime. o_o;

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That looks like a copy and paste error. It's an eight hour maintenance. 8 PM on the 15th to 4 AM on the 16th, PDT. They probably just forgot to change both dates to say the 16th on the GMT page. Edit: Oh, and yes, they're both AM GMT.

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Originally Posted by Ecks007

Uh so.. about this:

Is that 0300 meaning 3am, or is that 3pm? And is that 11am or 11pm?

That's a long long time to be down for maintenance, even if you look at the least amount of time that those times could be (3pm to 11am). Remember, it starts on the 15th and ends on the 16th. That's a minimum of 20 hours scheduled downtime. o_o;

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Also, I might be wrong, but GMT doesn't do A.M. and P.M. right? Its like... 12:00, 14:00, 23:00

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Originally Posted by Bixby

That looks like a copy and paste error. It's an eight hour maintenance. 8 PM on the 15th to 4 AM on the 16th, PDT. They probably just forgot to change both dates to say the 16th on the GMT page. Edit: Oh, and yes, they're both AM GMT.

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O_o that is completely different from the link in the OP. Oh, NA and EU sites.. hmm. Jesus though.. 20 hours? D'what? For some reason it doesn't feel like the major patch dates were in maintenance that long (2.1,2.2,2.3), though I could be wrong. And this isn't even a major update.

Jeez. Makes me glad I work nights and work that Monday night, getting off Tues morning. Still crazy downtime, jeeeesh.

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Originally Posted by Ecks007

O_o that is completely different from the link in the OP. Oh, NA and EU sites.. hmm. Jesus though.. 20 hours? D'what? For some reason it doesn't feel like the major patch dates were in maintenance that long (2.1,2.2,2.3), though I could be wrong. And this isn't even a major update.

Jeez. Makes me glad I work nights and work that Monday night, getting off Tues morning. Still crazy downtime, jeeeesh.

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Personal housing probably. Adding all the wards and making sure the servers don't catch fire.

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Originally Posted by Ecks007

O_o that is completely different from the link in the OP. Oh, NA and EU sites.. hmm. Jesus though.. 20 hours? D'what? For some reason it doesn't feel like the major patch dates were in maintenance that long (2.1,2.2,2.3), though I could be wrong. And this isn't even a major update.

Jeez. Makes me glad I work nights and work that Monday night, getting off Tues morning. Still crazy downtime, jeeeesh.

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It's not 20 hours. It's eight. The GMT page should say the 16th for both times. 3:00 AM to 11:00 AM. Eight hours.

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Originally Posted by Ecks007

Uh so.. about this:

Is that 0300 meaning 3am, or is that 3pm? And is that 11am or 11pm?

That's a long long time to be down for maintenance, even if you look at the least amount of time that those times could be (3pm to 11am). Remember, it starts on the 15th and ends on the 16th. That's a minimum of 20 hours scheduled downtime. o_o;

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It's exactly what it says, from 3:00 to 11:00.

Oh, right, Americans and their silly am/pm thing! It's 3am to 11am, so a pretty long maintenance if those numbers are right. (Probably the date is wrong, that's all)

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Originally Posted by Iriadysa

It's exactly what it says, from 3:00 to 11:00.

Oh, right, Americans and their silly am/pm thing!

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Does no one else use am or pm? o-o

How do people not know 03:00 means 3am? o.O

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Originally Posted by Mugiawara

Does no one else use am or pm? o-o

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Not only americans i think almost all english language Speakers use it, but i know no other language with this System

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Originally Posted by Mugiawara

Does no one else use am or pm? o-o

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most people use AM and PM.

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Originally Posted by NyneAlexander

<----needs info on personal housing

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Not much info at all is so harsh!!! might be more than 800k? is it like fc housing or not? the plan is to have gardens, but it is delayed? all I want is my own space to garden, that is what I want most of all, a flower pot in my room, a garden space with personal house, a separate area for people to rent out with just garden plots all over the place, something, anything for just myself would be awesome, thanks!!!

They said around TGS I'm 99% sure. Excited either way. About time to bring Sands of Time into ST, SE. Please do eet!

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Originally Posted by Mugiawara

Does no one else use am or pm? o-o

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It's also used regularly in many South American countries (all?). The 24h system is just superior in every practical sense, as far as I can see.

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Originally Posted by Galliano

How do people not know 03:00 means 3am? o.O

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They're not from military families. The military in the US is one of the only organizations here that uses the 24 hour standard, teaching you it and reminding you to be at a location at 1600 hours.

Well, UTC were made for a reason. Let's use it so we can stop read multiple announcements with just the timing translated to local times.
As today, UTC is something any kid 13+ is able to understand and use.

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Originally Posted by Iriadysa

It's also used regularly in many South American countries (all?). The 24h system is just superior in every practical sense, as far as I can see.

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If only it were universal and used instead of AM/PM; but, common sense isn't common.

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Originally Posted by NyneAlexander

Also, I might be wrong, but GMT doesn't do A.M. and P.M. right? Its like... 12:00, 14:00, 23:00

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I love this post xD

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Originally Posted by Galliano

How do people not know 03:00 means 3am? o.O

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becaue 3PM is 15:00

using HH:MM is 00:00 to 23:59

12h (H:MM am/pm) or 24h HH:MM both are understable fairly easy

OT: 2.38 next week? yay , thats means we are 1 step closer to 2.4

will there be new gear. ilvl120 in 2.38~ 2.4? if so, say so! might stop going crazy with gear right now if its going to be easier in the coming patch.

This is great news! I'm eager to continue work on my relic :D

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If only it were universal and used instead of AM/PM; but, common sense isn't common.

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google image search the word "clock" and come back to talk about common sense.

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Originally Posted by Celes_Chere

will there be new gear. ilvl120 in 2.38~ 2.4? if so, say so! might stop going crazy with gear right now if its going to be easier in the coming patch.

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I'm pretty sure that even if they implement new gear they will not increase the ilvl in a minor patch (besides relict they said it would go further with that in this patch but that does not necessary mean an ilvl increase and if it does probably only to 115)

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Originally Posted by Bixby

It's not 20 hours. It's eight. The GMT page should say the 16th for both times. 3:00 AM to 11:00 AM. Eight hours.

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Ah yeah, I looked at the NA one wrong.

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Sep. 15, 2014 8:00 p.m. to Sep. 16, 2014 4:00 a.m. (PDT)

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For some reason I thought it said 4pm. :o

Well, 8 hours is much better than 20, and it'll still fall during a time I'll be at work. So, its all good by me.

No but seriously... personal housing? Do I need to take off work to dodge the new square enix mechanic "race for the land"?

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Not only americans i think almost all english language Speakers use it, but i know no other language with this System

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It has nothing to do with language (well, the specific letters used to abbreviate it do, but that's Latin, not English). It's about the way clocks are designed (which of course is in turn based on the way —well, one of the ways— hours were counted in medieval Europe when mechanical clocks were invented). Clocks have twelve hours on them but a day has twenty four, so the twelve hours repeat. That exists worldwide, as it spread along with the technology of building clocks.

The alternative of describing time by adding an extra twelve to the hour when it's PM is more widely used in some areas than others, but it's still an alternative alongside the more traditional 12-hour system that clocks use, so it doesn't really make sense to say other languages don't have the older system. The repeating 12-hour pattern will continue as long as 12-hour clocks do, and those are still used worldwide. Every place in the world has (and at times uses) both systems. Some places just use one more commonly than the other.


But anyway, enough on that. To add at least something that's on-topic, I'll just reiterate what a few others have said: We need more info on personal housing!

http://www.dunktrading.co.uk/image/d...s/24_hours.jpg
For those having troubles.

Does anyone think they're removing the Fantasia limit in this patch? ;_; I just want to be a lalafell.

Cannot wait to see what SE does for the Legacy servers. I can only imagine the three cities will be clouded by the fires, perhaps the servers too XD.

Please release instanced housing in the expansion SE. lol

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Originally Posted by Shougun

Cannot wait to see what SE does for the Legacy servers. I can only imagine the three cities will be clouded by the fires, perhaps the servers too XD.

Please release instanced housing in the expansion SE. lol

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Huh? Oh, do you mean because of pricing? Was about to say "What does being a Legacy server matter?" But then I remembered that there are different ranges per servers on FC pricing so.. yeah, if that's what you meant, then I get it.