Brooms for stable

1 is there anywere i can get one besides players? right now there going for 300k:( 2 how long do i have before the stable gets nasty i guess (to tell the truth i think it's dumb we have to clean it yes i know in real life you have to} but this is a game anyway ty

It's a 2 star CRP craft that requires 1 glazenut, 1 broombush, 5 bamboo sticks, and the respective clusters. You can check the links in my sig for obtaining glazenut/broombush, and bamboo sticks are 2 star BTN gathers. A single craft yields 20.

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Originally Posted by Lyrinn

It's a 2 star CRP craft that requires 1 glazenut, 1 broombush, 5 bamboo sticks, and the respective clusters. You can check the links in my sig for obtaining glazenut/broombush, and bamboo sticks are 2 star BTN gathers. A single craft yields 20.

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Thank you very much

Prices should drop pretty quickly, seeing as the craft produces 20 and it's not a consumable item. Easiest way for a FC to distribute them would be to have one in a Company Chest slot that anyone can take out and clean the stable. Unless they bind on use?

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Originally Posted by Baneus

Prices should drop pretty quickly, seeing as the craft produces 20 and it's not a consumable item. Easiest way for a FC to distribute them would be to have one in a Company Chest slot that anyone can take out and clean the stable. Unless they bind on use?

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It's NOT consumable? This changes everything for me if that's the case. I have an ample supply of everything but the broombush to make it, and shouldn't be too bad to obtain that, even if I have to rely on the boards pricing.

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Originally Posted by Welsper59

It's NOT consumable? This changes everything for me if that's the case. I have an ample supply of everything but the broombush to make it, and shouldn't be too bad to obtain that, even if I have to rely on the boards pricing.

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I haven't confirmed that yet (or seen it confirmed). But considering the bamboo is in a shared two star gathering slot and the only large scale supply is from people who got it during 1.0...

EDIT: waiting on an FC member who has all the materials to give it to one of our carpenters. Then we'll see what's what.

Double edit: confirmed consumable :(

I think the prices will probably drop down to about, say... 20-30k apiece. I really don't think 300-500k per broom is reasonable, especially with it being 20/craft, even with the recipe and mats being 2-star.

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Originally Posted by Baneus

I haven't confirmed that yet (or seen it confirmed). But considering the bamboo is in a shared two star gathering slot and the only large scale supply is from people who got it during 1.0...

EDIT: waiting on an FC member who has all the materials to give it to one of our carpenters. Then we'll see what's what.

Double edit: confirmed consumable :(

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I'm hoping the gardening crossbreed changes from the notes has something to do with how you obtain broombush and glazenuts. Spending on a handful of consumable brooms that costs more than a small FC house is absurd.

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Originally Posted by HakuroDK

I think the prices will probably drop down to about, say... 20-30k apiece. I really don't think 300-500k per broom is reasonable, especially with it being 20/craft, even with the recipe and mats being 2-star.

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It sort of is when the cost to make them is over around 2-3mil.

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Originally Posted by HakuroDK

I think the prices will probably drop down to about, say... 20-30k apiece. I really don't think 300-500k per broom is reasonable, especially with it being 20/craft, even with the recipe and mats being 2-star.

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It requiring glazenut will keep the price somewhat high, not as much as 300~500k but still high for a consumable.

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Originally Posted by Welsper59

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I'm hoping the gardening crossbreed changes from the notes has something to do with how you obtain broombush and glazenuts. Spending on a handful of consumable brooms that costs more than a small FC house is absurd.

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Given the way things have gone in the past, they're probably changing them so they can't be chain bred. :/

SE really went crazy with the requirements for making these brooms and chocobo feed.

Stupidly crazy. It seems like a "horse before the cart" sort of thing. Without personal housing and gardens, it simply creates an unnecessary strain on FCs already struggling to mange their "fun" gardens.

If you use one broom/day, 1 glazenut + 1 broombush lasts almost 3 weeks. It takes 2 weeks to grow 8 of each. That's with just one bed. I don't see the problem here.

At current market prices on Exodus it would be cheaper to trash a filthy stable and put up a new one than to clean the old.

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Originally Posted by Lyrinn

If you use one broom/day, 1 glazenut + 1 broombush lasts almost 3 weeks. It takes 2 weeks to grow 8 of each. That's with just one bed. I don't see the problem here.

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You're forgetting the feed, which is only from gardening (as far as we know), otherwise those stables are just vanity. Also, you're assuming people buy the seeds from others (who are essentially sacrificing their own use for the stables) to grow them. It takes a lot longer than 2 weeks to yield 8 of each and sustain feed for the FC to use with one bed. This is also under the assumption that people are fertilizing it regularly.

what cost a new (and fresh) stable?

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Originally Posted by Lyrinn

If you use one broom/day, 1 glazenut + 1 broombush lasts almost 3 weeks. It takes 2 weeks to grow 8 of each. That's with just one bed. I don't see the problem here.

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You also need to grow Chocobo food.

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Originally Posted by Felis

what cost a new (and fresh) stable?

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3000 gil lmao its cheaper than the stupid krakka root seeds =_=

edit: actually according to lodestone db http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/playguide/db/item/96abfb901bb/ it says its 5 gil per bag...which is weird as I coulda sworn when I went to buy some it said 3000something gil. I'm so confused now. I'll have to check tonight when I'm back in the game.

The only two Broombushes on the market last night on Behemoth were 1.5mil and 3mil. Time to reconfigure the FC garden.

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Originally Posted by Felis

what cost a new (and fresh) stable?

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125k gil .

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Originally Posted by Nukocafe

actually according to lodestone (...) it says its 5 gil per bag...which is weird as I coulda sworn when I went to buy some it said 3000something gil.

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You can buy the seeds from a vendor for 3480g and you can sell the seeds to a vendor for 5g.

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Originally Posted by Baneus

Prices should drop pretty quickly, seeing as the craft produces 20 and it's not a consumable item.

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What? Lol dude what makes you come to that conclusion. If a synth makes 20 of something that is a logical conclusion to say it IS consumable.
TBH I have sold the brooms already but have yet to use one so I don't know 100% they aren't consumable but I am 95% sure they are consumable based on logic.

Also, yeah pretty easy to make them but gathering the mats is the hard part. You need a garden producing both broombush AND glazenuts and at this point the garden crosses may have changed from PRE 2.3. The notes said seed crossings have changed.

It's very hard to produce a chain that reproduces both broombush and glazenut on a weekly basis, but it's just a logic problem that you can do based on the current known seed crossings (which again may make this procedure impossible if any of the chains leading up to the two fruits has changed)

You know. It really does pay to read the whole thread before making a post that can be summed up is "hey guys, I'm late to the party"

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Originally Posted by Baneus

You know. It really does pay to read the whole thread before making a post that can be summed up is "hey guys, I'm late to the party"

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It also pays to be reasonable and add to the discussion instead of just berating me.

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Originally Posted by Angel_Kitty

It also pays to be reasonable and add to the discussion instead of just berating me.

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More of a gentle correction than berating :)

To be honest I didn't think they would be consumable, multiple items I assumed to be handed out to multiple people in the FC rather than everyone having to craft their own. It's not completely unreasonable to assume they're non consumable, bummer that they are though. Dirty stables for my FC lol.

Bamboo is hard to get! Need more materia, so expensive to get the right amount to be that high!

But it's VERY high level item because of the bamboo.

This is just another example of SE having no idea how to make content enjoyable and accessible. It's almost like they WANT massive inequality among the playerbase and are even encouraging elitist behaviors.

That feel when I'm the only one in the FC capable of growing them + gathering bamboo.

This whole Chocobo Raising crap already feels like crap to me.

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Originally Posted by TheRogueX

This is just another example of SE having no idea how to make content enjoyable and accessible. It's almost like they WANT massive inequality among the playerbase and are even encouraging elitist behaviors.

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Just because you can't get them doesn't mean that only a very small porcion of people can. There are pleanty of avid gatherer and crafter in each server. Make friend, have connection.

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Originally Posted by RegnumMagik

That feel when I'm the only one in the FC capable of growing them + gathering bamboo.

This whole Chocobo Raising crap already feels like crap to me.

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ask for fair compensation. people don't work for others in the real world for free unless you are helping those that have less than you, it's called "volunteering" Not trying to be mean but trying to encourage you to not be taken advantage of.

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Originally Posted by Angel_Kitty

ask for fair compensation. people don't work for others in the real world for free unless you are helping those that have less than you, it's called "volunteering" Not trying to be mean but trying to encourage you to not be taken advantage of.

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Except there's no real fair compensation, I'm the only one with fully melded gear + i70 tool. And I'm the only one that can even spend that much time gathering soil and bamboo every hour. The amount of effort to do so is not exactly realistic for people that actually dont have much time to spend.

It's just the amount of work that has to be put into it is not realistic imo. This is just to upkeep the stable, we haven't even add the feeds into the equation either :<

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Originally Posted by Nukocafe

3000 gil lmao its cheaper than the stupid krakka root seeds =_=

edit: actually according to lodestone db http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...m/96abfb901bb/ it says its 5 gil per bag...which is weird as I coulda sworn when I went to buy some it said 3000something gil. I'm so confused now. I'll have to check tonight when I'm back in the game.

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It sells for 5 gil. Thats how much the NPC will give you if you sold to a NPC vendor, not the value it is sold by the vendor.

I disagree. You could make a self sustaining garden that produces
1. One Broombush
2. One Glazenut
3. Chocobo Food

Without fertilizing it. Once every three weeks you would have to go farm bamboo sticks which wouldnt take but a little grinding for a day.
People think you can just walk up and get Glazenuts and Broombush at leisure. I was lucky enough to have an FC mate that was already very knowledgable on gardening, but if you are starting from scratch you can't expect to just go out and choco-train non stop unless you set it all up first. It's about developing the system and feeling rewarded for it's products.

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Originally Posted by Angel_Kitty

I disagree. You could make a self sustaining garden that produces
1. One Broombush
2. One Glazenut
3. Chocobo Food

Without fertilizing it. Once every three weeks you would have to go farm bamboo sticks which wouldnt take but a little grinding for a day.
People think you can just walk up and get Glazenuts and Broombush at leisure. I was lucky enough to have an FC mate that was already very knowledgable on gardening, but if you are starting from scratch you can't expect to just go out and choco-train non stop unless you set it all up first. It's about developing the system and feeling rewarded for it's products.

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Your FC owns a medium house, small houses are limited to 1 garden patch, you can't make food for everyone in your FC and also focus on stable brooms with just 1 garden patch.

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Originally Posted by Alukah

Your FC owns a medium house, small houses are limited to 1 garden patch, you can't make food for everyone in your FC and also focus on stable brooms with just 1 garden patch.

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How do you know that? The krakka root seed can for example yield really high amount with correct soil (lets say anything betweeen 12 and 24) per bed so should be enough for small FCs. Or - it could produce only one (HOPE NOT!) and we're all srcewed ... Until the yield is known (should be tomorrow) this is all just unbased speculations.