My 100% RNG Free 40 Durability 1 & 2 Star Rotation

My Other Rotations:

100% RNG Free Artisan Tool Bauble Synth Rotation
No Food, NQ Materials, RNG Free Two Star Artisan Mass Production Rotation

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Disclaimer: This rotation does not work on Two Star 40 Durability without Artisan Tools. It does work on One Star without Artisan, but not two Star. I am not responsible for any blown up Peacock Ore! See my solution in the disclaimer below on how to work around this.

I've seen it said a lot that there's no way of guaranteeing 100% HQ on 40 durability without RNG. I thought this couldn't be right, because my rotation reaches 96% (with Normal on each step) without food as an Artisan (maxed stats). I figured the extra 43 CP from a Bouillabaisse had to provide me with enough to make up that difference as well as potentially improving it further so it worked without the Artisan Tool. I wasn't wrong. :)

I present for the first time on these forums (that I've seen - do correct me if I am mistaken) a 100% successful RNG free 40 durability rotation! It even uses NQ materials. You never need to gather HQ materials ever again! The rotation is also fairly straight forward. As with my other rotations it relies on maximum efficiency for a quick, mass production inspired macro. Manual synthing with this rotation takes just under 30 seconds and the macro takes 45 seconds.

There are however some disclaimers with this rotation. I will discuss these before we get into it.

One Star Ingredient Synths, Twinthread, Rosegold Nuggets, etc

For every single one star material this rotation will always HQ, even without your Artisan Tool. Terrific!

Vanya Silk, Darksteel Ingots, etc with Artisan Tool

This rotation will reach 100% quality on every 40 durability two star synthesis. Guaranteed!

Vanya Silk, Darksteel Ingots, etc without Artisan

This rotation does not work without your Artisan Tool. Sorry! As with all my non-three star rotations this is aimed at mass production once you have your Artisan.

Solution for non-Artisan 2 Star

Simple solution. Use the rotation to make the two HQ base (Twinthread, etc) for your two star synth. Drop the first basic touch from the rotation and use Careful Synthesis II instead. This will reach 100% without any RNG (just!) but it will require the two HQ materials. That's not a problem with this rotation now though!

The Other Downside:

This rotation does require HQ Bouillabaisse for +36 minimum CP. If you meld a CP III materia onto your off hand you can downgrade this to a HQ Fish Soup for +33 and CP +3 from the Materia. You need +36 in total on top of every other slot's optimal melds, so 345+36 for 381 CP and it's up to you where you get it from.

The Final Miniscule Downside:

You will require +1 Craftsmanship on your Offhand, as you do in my100% Two Star 80 Durability Rotation. Go ahead and meld it on because you'll be able to blast through all non-three star synths with 100% success and zero effort using both of my rotations. I recommend Control IV, CP III and Craftsmanship I for your Off Hand. You can add more Control on at your discretion for three stars but that Craftsmanship I is essential to both of these rotations. If you don't want to ruin your delicious off hand, simply make a new one and meld Craftmanship I to it for all non-three star crafting. After testing this a little more it seems you don't require any additional craftsmanship at Artisan level to finish 1 & 2 star in one step. This can not be done without Artisan, so in actual fact this makes this rotation useless without your Artisal Tool.

Requirements:

- If you want 100% every time (this includes two star) you will need fully melded gear plus your Artisan Tool:
-- 392 Craftsmanship, 375 Control, 381 CP which means:
-- +36 CP to your 345 base. This could be either a HQ Bouillabaisse or +3 CP on your Off Hand and a HQ Fish Soup. See above.

- Cross Class skills:
--- CRP 50: Byregot's Blessing
--- WVR 50: Careful Synthesis II
--- BSM 50: Ingenuity II
--- CUL 37: Steady Hand II
--- GSM 50: Manipulation (15) and Innovation (50)
--- ALC 50: Comfort Zone

The Rotation:

Remember to check you have +36 CP as described above.

01 - Comfort Zone
02 - Inner Quiet
03 - Steady Hand II
04 - Basic Touch
05 - Basic Touch
06 - Manipulation
07 - Basic Touch
08 - Basic Touch
09 - Great Strides
10 - Steady Hand *
11 - Ingenuity II
12 - Standard Touch
13 - Great Strides **
14 - Innovation
15 - Byregot's Blessing
16 - Careful Synthesis II

* If you get an 'Excellent' after applying Steady Hand on Step 10, use Standard Touch before Ingenuity II, otherwise your Standard Touch will be on 'Poor' condition. Make sure to use Ingenuity II after the Standard Touch however!
** As with above, if you get an 'Excellent' after applying Great Strides on Step 13, use Byregot's Blessing before Innovation, otherwise your Byregot's Blessing will be on 'Poor' condition. You won't need to apply Innovation if this happens, so skip to step 16 and finish the synth.

The above two notes are important to making sure a Poor condition doesn't ruin your synth so make sure you read them.

You can macro this rotation along with Step checks on the two Excellent interfering moments for a 100% successful macro set for all 40 durability synths. Sounds great, right? Here they are:

Macro 1:

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/action "Comfort Zone" <me> <wait.2>
/action "Inner Quiet" <me> <wait.2>
/action "Steady Hand II" <me> <wait.2>
/action "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
/action "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
/action "Manipulation" <me> <wait.2>
/action "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
/action "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
/action "Great Strides" <me> <wait.2>
/action "Steady Hand" <me> <wait.2>
/echo CHECK CONDITION: If Excellent, hit Macro 3. If not, hit Macro 2!

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Macro 2:

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/action "Ingenuity II" <me> <wait.2>
/action "Standard Touch" <me> <wait.3>
/action "Great Strides" <me> <wait.2>
/echo CHECK CONDITION: If Excellent, hit Macro 5. If not, hit Macro 4!

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Macro 3:

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/action "Standard Touch" <me> <wait.3>
/action "Ingenuity II" <me> <wait.2>
/action "Great Strides" <me> <wait.2>
/echo CHECK CONDITION: If Excellent, hit Macro 5. If not, hit Macro 4!

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Macro 4:

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/action "Innovation" <me> <wait.2>
/action "Byregot's Blessing" <me> <wait.3>
/action "Careful Synthesis II" <me> <wait.3>
/echo Done!

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Macro 5:

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/action "Byregot's Blessing" <me> <wait.3>
/action "Careful Synthesis II" <me> <wait.3>
/echo Done!

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If you want to just synth without worrying about the condition on Byregot's, you just hit Macros 1 > 2 > 4 over and over.

Conclusion:

This rotation will help you produce 40 durability HQs with ease. The requirements for melding are relatively high but the money you'll save from never needing HQ materials again will far outweigh the investment. You'll also need all but the off hand melds for your three star synths anyway.

I haven't tested this rotation without Artisan as much as I'd like to. Any input on this will be appreciated! As always, constructive comments and discussion welcome.

I love your rotations and macros Selene! Almost about to hit 50 all crafts so I can start using your rotations! Thanks for your work and dedication! Also one more thing, just to be clear, what do you recommend be melded to the offhand after fully melding everything else? Thanks!

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Originally Posted by EvianEverdeen

Also one more thing, just to be clear, what do you recommend be melded to the offhand after fully melding everything else? Thanks!

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You have asked this question countless times and asked Selene specifically 3 times.

Selene has already answered you twice about this.

I would recommend Control IV CP III for off hand. Anything more than that and it will start costing a lot of money. You can add Craftsmanship I on after those two to finish 80 durability two stars in two steps so you can use my rotation for those if you like, or just make a new tool and add the Craftsmanship I to that, since you will still get 100% without that 4 Control.

With practise and an understanding of crafting mechanics you will have a very high HQ rate with 3 stars with just Control IV CP III on your off hand. If you're looking to just mass produce stuff instead, you can use Elesia's Macros. I use them for three star foods and they're very good, albeit not the 'best'. They'll do for mass producing foods though. You should really look to craft manually for higher success with 3 star though.

How would Control IV, CP III, and Craftsmanship III sound for offhand? Overkill?

does this leave you with any cp?

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Originally Posted by scarebearz

You have asked this question countless times and asked Selene specifically 3 times.

Selene has already answered you twice about this.

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I like to be clear on things. Why be such a downer? I'll be your friend if you don't have any! :)

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Originally Posted by EvianEverdeen

I like to be clear on things. Why be such a downer? I'll be your friend if you don't have any! :)

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Not trying to be a downer, but you really need to make your on mind up about this by now xD or at least decide who's advice to follow.

With capped gears, to hit the 3 star min requirements you need to add atleast 3 Control.

Myself and others recommend 3 CP.

For Selene's macros you need to add atleast 1 craftsmanship, 4 control and 3 cp (for the 40 dura ones).

So the cheapest way to do this (on my server atm) would be 4 control (IV) - 3 cp (III) - 3 craft (I), as I said in your other thread.

You can push more control or craft if you wish, but depends how much you want to spend tbh.

In my opinion stat importance (after req's) are CP>Control>Craft, so I would push more control if I want to spend more on the melds.

I can't make it any clearer :/

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Originally Posted by scarebearz

Not trying to be a downer, but you really need to make your on mind up about this by now xD or at least decide who's advice to follow.

With capped gears, to hit the 3 star min requirements you need to add atleast 3 Control.

Myself and others recommend 3 CP.

For Selene's macros you need to add atleast 1 craftsmanship, 4 control and 3 cp (for the 40 dura ones).

So the cheapest way to do this (on my server atm) would be 4 control (IV) - 3 cp (III) - 3 craft (I), as I said in your other thread.

You can push more control or craft if you wish, but depends how much you want to spend tbh.

In my opinion stat importance (after req's) are CP>Control>Craft, so I would push more control if I want to spend more on the melds.

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Sounds good, that's what I think I am going to do, one of each variety. Control IV, CP III, and I am going to try to push a Craftsmanship III in there instead of the I.

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Originally Posted by EvianEverdeen

Sounds good, that's what I think I am going to do, one of each variety. Control IV, CP III, and I am going to try to push a Craftsmanship III in there instead of the I.

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Sounds good, but check materia prices, could be cheaper to do 3 control - 3 cp - 5 craft (or 3) - 1 control. or whatever combination.

The extra Craft is currently unlikely to make any difference, but for rotations we have yet to hear about, it could come in handy later on.

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Originally Posted by scarebearz

Sounds good, but check materia prices, could be cheaper to do 3 control - 3 cp - 5 craft (or 3) - 1 control. or whatever combination.

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I try to get all the materia on my own accord through spiritbonding, because I'm not rich just yet! I will definitely check it out though. The IV will definitely go in there, I know I don't get them all that often when spiritbonding, but I seriously hate overmelding more than I have to, because I have really bad luck. So if I can go the three-materia route over the four, that's definitely what I will be doing. And we can still be friends! :)

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Originally Posted by Delta-Sniper

does this leave you with any cp?

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7 if you use Bouillabaisse HQ, 0 if you use CP+3 on Off Hand and Fish Soup HQ. It requires 381 so anything over will be left over.

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Originally Posted by scarebearz

For Selene's macros you need to add atleast 1 craftsmanship, 4 control and 3 cp (for the 40 dura ones).

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You only need the Craftsmanship I for the 80 durability one. There's no 'additional' requirement for this one, I just recommend that since it won't break people's 3 star tools.

Just out of curiosity, does Bouillabaise HQ are quite cheap back at Sargatanas? Not that I can't craft it, in fact it's quite easy making HQ of it using all NQ mats.

I'm just not sure I want to pop CP food every time I start crafting those. The artisan tool crafts might be an exception since I usually prepped all my mats for master book & artisan tool and eat food at least twice to complete them all straight away. That, and prepping the mats for making CP food are quite hassle as always. lol

Other than that, great rotation. For now, I'm sticking with non CP food rotation. :)

Here I thought it was some magical rotation that did not require food. Good work though. Nifty to have in general.

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Originally Posted by SeleneVenizelos

You only need the Craftsmanship I for the 80 durability one. There's no 'additional' requirement for this one, I just recommend that since it won't break people's 3 star tools.

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Must have misread the bit about melding 3 cp on the offhand for this macro (i.e. so you can use cheaper food).

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Originally Posted by SeleneVenizelos

With practise and an understanding of crafting mechanics you will have a very high HQ rate with 3 stars with just Control IV CP III on your off hand. If you're looking to just mass produce stuff instead, you can use Elesia's Macros. I use them for three star foods and they're very good, albeit not the 'best'. They'll do for mass producing foods though. You should really look to craft manually for higher success with 3 star though.

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What do you mean Elesia's macros are for mass-producing? How are they different from yours? Technically isn't any macro pretty much a mass-producer, as you slam it and out comes the end-product? Just not sure what the difference is between your macros and the other pleyer's macros are. Thanks :)

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Originally Posted by EvianEverdeen

What do you mean Elesia's macros are for mass-producing? How are they different from yours? Technically isn't any macro pretty much a mass-producer, as you slam it and out comes the end-product? Just not sure what the difference is between your macros and the other pleyer's macros are. Thanks :)

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Elesia's macro's are for actual 3 star crafts.

Imo the best way to craft 3 star is manually, this makes it cheaper (less HQ mats used), faster and more reliable. (3 star is situational)

They're for mass producing because you make the macro, its all set and needs no further attention other than clicking the macro button. Its less HQ reliable though, than others which have no strict rotation and rely on various procs.

Those macros I linked to in particular are the closest I've seen to a reactive mass production rotation. There's various macros in the later stage depending on how much CP you have left before the closing stages, since at points it checks for and uses Tricks of the Trade to get some CP back. Definitely, manual crafting for three stars will always be better and on anything of value I manually synth. I use those macros for bulk though, such as making loads of the new foods.

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Originally Posted by SeleneVenizelos

My Other Rotations:
For every single one star material this rotation will always HQ, even without your Artisan Tool. Terrific!

Vanya Silk, Darksteel Ingots, etc with Artisan Tool
This rotation will reach 100% quality on every 40 durability two star synthesis. Guaranteed!
Requirements:
-- 392 Craftsmanship, 375 Control, 381 CP which means:

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Just some feedback.

I have been using this via the 1-2-4 macro, and I am seeing it hits only 94% on both 1 and 2 stars, even tho I do get HQ product. However, I also need to say that the 2 crafts that I have used this with so far are not at 375 control, one is at 374 and the other at 366.

I will get the 375 control stat and test this out more.

jc

Unfortunately you can not guarantee 100% just spamming 1 > 2 > 4, a poor on either the Standard or Byregot's will ruin that. On 2 star, with 375 Control, I would suggest watching for conditions on those two steps because there is very little margin for error on the finished quality. As for 1 star, well that reaches 100% without an Artisan Tool, so if it's not reaching 100% for you with 374 I would have no idea why.

I just tested it some more with the Goldsmith Blue tool, and it is reaching 100% every time. I guess you got some bad luck with Poor ratings. :(

I tried your macro. modified since i dont have my artisan tool yet on my alchemist and i made all 5HQ of her 2*40 dur potions (for master book) easily. 2 of my synths didnt reach 100% but were at 92 and 91% (they came out HQ). chalking that up to the rng gods that grant me goods and excellents :)

thank you for posting this. :)

The macro doesn't come out to guaranteed 100% all the time. I've gotten a 98% before, still high percentage and still awesome, the only macro I use, but I just wanted you to be aware for R&D purposes. I am fully melded, artisan gear, and new 2.3 accessories.

can i have a macro for twinthread HQ please because you havent factored in masters mend and twinthread pnly has 4 turns

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Originally Posted by argye_quicksword

can i have a macro for twinthread HQ please because you havent factored in masters mend and twinthread pnly has 4 turns

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http://www.ffxivcrafter.com/crafting...tor&guid=cbfGx - 349 CP 1 button 40 durability 1star mass production macro with Normal Quality mats

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Originally Posted by EvianEverdeen

I'll be your friend if you don't have any! :)

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Please come to Lamia.

Bump and sticky request.

Very nice post. Between yourself and Caimie over @ ffxivrealm i may actually be able to HQ things other then Mega Ethers, lol