Question about Tam-Tara HM screenshot

Is that the conjurer from that sad questline? I can't remember the name.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/spe...rzea/dungeons/

Yes. /10char

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Originally Posted by Welsper59

Is that the conjurer from that sad questline? I can't remember the name.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/spe...rzea/dungeons/

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Yep, that's Edda. (^_^ )

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Originally Posted by Aldora

Yep, that's Edda. (^_^ )

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Ahh that's the name. Thanks, was bothering me for a while and couldn't find any clues on what it was when I tried to do some searches lol.

kind of sad that, from the trailer, she may have gone completely insane due to the death of her fiance.

That final boss is the Head of her fiance we last saw her carry and there are even failed doll clones of her dead husband that we will face as normal mobs in Tam Tam Hard.

Didn't she go back to her village to relearn what it means to be an adventurer, though, as she got past the death of her betrothed, Ewen?

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Originally Posted by gornotck

Didn't she go back to her village to relearn what it means to be an adventurer, though, as she got past the death of her betrothed, Ewen?

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Apparently she didn't get over him, as cutscenes/clips would lead us to believe.

Dat flying head tho… finally SE's starting to implement creepy enemies. Would like some kind of stalker-type invincible enemy to appear in the shroud (with weather effect ala Odin) to make the open world a bit more dangerous. Granted, it wouldn't last for too long.

Tanks are hard to find. When you find one you hang onto it, even if all you have left is the head. Apparently.

Glad to see Edda back. I loved seeing their party implode in 2.0 and was disappointed they didn't make a reappearance after their Main Story cameo.... until now. Should make for a creepy Hard Mode dungeon.

Well, at least she is finally playing how she wants >_> Noob PT for the win!

I always felt so bad for Edda. I hope she has a happy ending, I doubt she will but I hope she does. If you talk to the NPCs outside the dungeons they just all are so horrible to her. Even her own fiance seemed really harsh to her basically calling her slow and stupid. I get the feeling she was so used to the abuse and being told she cant do anything but couldnt bare the thought of being alone, which shows when that party disbanded and she cried for them not to leave her.

It's like she is trying to resurrect Avere because she doesnt realise how to stand on her own two feet

You all saw that bloody AoE of the final boss in Tam Tara HM?

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Originally Posted by Dijana

I always felt so bad for Edda. I hope she has a happy ending, I doubt she will but I hope she does. If you talk to the NPCs outside the dungeons they just all are so horrible to her. Even her own fiance seemed really harsh to her basically calling her slow and stupid. I get the feeling she was so used to the abuse and being told she cant do anything but couldnt bare the thought of being alone, which shows when that party disbanded and she cried for them not to leave her.

It's like she is trying to resurrect Avere because she doesnt realise how to stand on her own two feet

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Sounds like Stockholm Syndrome.

Was trying to find the cutscene in the inn room book today, but it's not there, or I'm blind.
Can anyone find it there?

how was she making clones it was has me curious? was she using cnj magic? Or was she trying to pull her Husband back from the void and in so brought something bigger back? based on the Cnj storyline I would say it is capable of bringing people back to life(but as zombie type things or making faulty clones) could this be related to what angered the elemental the first time around? so many questions...................

That's really sad and creepy. Dunno what is more sad in this trailer/patch Sultana crying or Edda. The place looks really evil and like a cave for satanists. I like that we see something creepy. Many times MMOs have really cute mobs around that we are suppose to kill lol. And when they put something creepy there are people who don't wanna go to those places because they can't stand of the mobs lol (mostly female gamers :P). I like it although cause we are suppose to kill those monsters. It's not nice when we kill pokemons in the woods is it? :P

Wow how did I not notice that that was the same cnj from the main story line. That's some awesome continuity on SE's part.

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Originally Posted by Urielparadox

how was she making clones it was has me curious? was she using cnj magic? Or was she trying to pull her Husband back from the void and in so brought something bigger back? based on the Cnj storyline I would say it is capable of bringing people back to life(but as zombie type things or making faulty clones) could this be related to what angered the elemental the first time around? so many questions...................

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See: Diabolos and the White Mages.

(Hot damn that sounds like an awesome band name). ˜\(o_°)/˜

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Originally Posted by A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider

See: Diabolos and the White Mages.

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Yep Tam Tam Hard is also a part of the Amdapor story being the dungeon that explains what was the ritual the Amdapor civilization that brought them to ruin and how dangerous White Magic can be if abused like it is currently in Tam Tam Hard.

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Originally Posted by Riardon

(mostly female gamers :P)

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That's one hell of a generalization.

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Originally Posted by TheCurls

That's one hell of a generalization.

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Please let's all be mature and not start this here and before it escalates out of control :x I'm sure it was meant to be a joke( a tasteless and tactless one) but let's not get off topic

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Originally Posted by Dijana

I always felt so bad for Edda. I hope she has a happy ending, I doubt she will but I hope she does. If you talk to the NPCs outside the dungeons they just all are so horrible to her. Even her own fiance seemed really harsh to her basically calling her slow and stupid. I get the feeling she was so used to the abuse and being told she cant do anything but couldnt bare the thought of being alone, which shows when that party disbanded and she cried for them not to leave her.

It's like she is trying to resurrect Avere because she doesnt realise how to stand on her own two feet

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The irony of this is that it's suppose to reflect how a typical bad party falls apart...
... yet 50 levels later that doesn't change.

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Originally Posted by Dijana

Blame everything on the healer, even the NPCs think the same ):

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And of course when the final straw breaks your back... you say "screw it, i'll make my own party"

... "My own party of NEVER DYING TANKS! Kyahahahahaha!"

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Originally Posted by Nayto

The irony of this is that it's suppose to reflect how a typical bad party falls apart...
... yet 50 levels later that doesn't change.

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Blame everything on the healer, even the NPCs think the same ):

Why is she in a level 50 dungeon. She didn't learn raise at level 12 of didn't learn the trait at level 28 to raise during a battle to save her husband.

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Originally Posted by melflomil

Why is she in a level 50 dungeon. She didn't learn raise at level 12 of didn't learn the trait at level 28 to raise during a battle to save her husband.

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She solo fate grinded to 50. Duh.

I have to say this is likely going to be one of the saddest dungeons I will ever complete, due to the fact that you do have to fight a fallen Edda. She's the most similar thing to a new player that you can find in an NPC. We all make mistakes, and sometimes those mistakes cause a wipe, and if our characters were actual people in the world, like Avere (Edda's Fiance) we wouldn't be respawning. So it kinda hurts seeing this bright star filled with hope crashing down to the Necromantic arts after we inspired her :(

She was a hyur, if she'd been elezen Avere wouldn't have died. It's typical that a hyur would fall into the clutches of voidsent.

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Originally Posted by Riardon

That's really sad and creepy. Dunno what is more sad in this trailer/patch Sultana crying or Edda. The place looks really evil and like a cave for satanists. I like that we see something creepy. Many times MMOs have really cute mobs around that we are suppose to kill lol. And when they put something creepy there are people who don't wanna go to those places because they can't stand of the mobs lol (mostly female gamers :P). I like it although cause we are suppose to kill those monsters. It's not nice when we kill pokemons in the woods is it? :P

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That is exactly how I feel.

I'm a Knight, not a bully. >.> C'mon devs, don't throw fluffy squirrels at me to fight. Give me more stuff like Tam-Tara hard!

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Originally Posted by A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider

See: Diabolos and the White Mages.

(Hot damn that sounds like an awesome band name). ˜\(o_°)/˜

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If i'm not mistaken I remember necromancy being part of one of the astral/umbral era's and it backfiring on the people who used it. I think it would be very interesting if necromancy came from whm/cnj. As I stated in my first post that it was the whm/cnj it wouldn't entice me if I didn't know of diablos and whm, but we havn't been told the whole story yet; diablos is returning in another dungeon and ect... and ampador is just a small part of a whole umbral era.

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Originally Posted by Urielparadox

If i'm not mistaken I remember necromancy being part of one of the astral/umbral era's and it backfiring on the people who used it. I think it would be very interesting if necromancy came from whm/cnj. As I stated in my first post that it was the whm/cnj it wouldn't entice me if I didn't know of diablos and whm, but we havn't been told the whole story yet; diablos is returning in another dungeon and ect... and ampador is just a small part of a whole umbral era.

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It came with the fall of Sil'dih if i remember correctly ( the sultana actually have forbidden necromancy potion, cf lvl 15 Ul'dah quest )

After reading this thread I feel really sad for Edda. I'm alot more interested in this dungeon now. I hate that I can't even find her as an NPC anymore. (Unless there was a place I missed) Wish I payed more attention too since the wiki says you can find her before Satasha and Tam Tara with her group. I remember her thanking you in Ul'dah but that was a long time ago. That said I'm alot more interested in this dungeon and the story with it. Even if its Tam tara. The dungeon you see about 80% of the time in the low level Roulette. >_>

As much as I feel so sorry for the poor girl, does anyone else seem to suspect that this might be yet another example of Ascian meddling? I mean, the last time we see Edda, she's makes a vow to honour Avare's memory and to better herself by returning to her hometown and restart her training as an adventurer by using the player as an example to follow and aspire to be like. Now she's gone completely off the rails and is resorting to necromancy to bring him back?

Although everyone deals with grief of losing a loved one differently, the total reversal of her attitude and apparent emotional defeat in dealing with losing her fiance does seem suspicious to me, especially given most of the events in story dungeons directly or indirectly were revealed to be a result of Ascian machinations (Toto-Rak, Haukke Manor SM, Stone Vigil SM to name a few), so it wouldn't surprise me if Edda really did try to deal with the grief of losing her beloved, only to fall victim to an Ascian who seized on her weakened emotional state and made her a deal too good to be true - a way to bring her beloved Avare back to life, not realizing just what a horrible mistake she was making. Which would make going through this dungeon even more depressing.

Either way, I really hope poor Edda's story has a happy ending that she deserves.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

As much as I feel so sorry for the poor girl, does anyone else seem to suspect that this might be yet another example of Ascian meddling? I mean, the last time we see Edda, she's makes a vow to honour Avare's memory and to better herself by returning to her hometown and restart her training as an adventurer by using the player as an example to follow and aspire to be like. Now she's gone completely off the rails and is resorting to necromancy to bring him back?

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To me it appears she has indeed lost some sense of right and wrong, resorting to seemingly anything to attempt to bring her fiancé back from the dead (looks like that may have gotten ugly). As to the Ascians influencing her, it's possible. In my opinion though, this could very well be her own doing. Love causes people to do some crazy things...some crazier than others. I don't see this ending well for Edda, regardless.

The Ascians probably have nothing to do with her doing these... horrific things in the Tam-Tara Deepcroft. If anything, she could have done some research on the lost civilization of Amdapor and their White Magic.

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Originally Posted by Nestama

The Ascians probably have nothing to do with her doing these... horrific things in the Tam-Tara Deepcroft. If anything, she could have done some research on the lost civilization of Amdapor and their White Magic.

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This is a possibility. The demons we saw in the Lost City of Amdapor prior to Diabolos make this a bit more likely, as they appear in Tam Tara HM as well (the ones with multiple heads). The Ascians seem more concerned with affecting or causing events on a much larger scale with far-reaching consequences, so this would probably be below them, in a sense.

It could be that one of the fanatics found out about her fiance dying and promised her his revival based on some conditions.

Or maybe some sort of magic in the deepcroft is causing her inner desires to become twisted and be displayed like that despite her not necessarily going through with any crazy revival plans. For all we know, she could be enlisting the adventurer to help clear out the dungeon. I'd like to think that she's hasn't gone crazy, clearly. Poor girl.

If you notice all of the red candles around the final battle field, it literally is like a summoning ritual for bringing forth a otherworldly spirit. I've seen my fair share of dark rituals (séances) before, and red candles are used when calling forth the spirit of a departed loved one. The red represents the love and blood of the deceased you so cherished.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

To me it appears she has indeed lost some sense of right and wrong, resorting to seemingly anything to attempt to bring her fiancé back from the dead (looks like that may have gotten ugly). As to the Ascians influencing her, it's possible. In my opinion though, this could very well be her own doing. Love causes people to do some crazy things...some crazier than others. I don't see this ending well for Edda, regardless.

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A interesting thing about the final boss of Tam Hard is if you look at the trailer it seems Edda will be helping us fight the final boss but there are mechanics for the boss that focus on the boss manipulating her emotions and we will have to protect her from the boss manipulations.

It seems the fight will be a guard NPC mechanic type of boss fight.

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Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos

If you notice all of the red candles around the final battle field, it literally is like a summoning ritual for bringing forth a otherworldly spirit. I've seen my fair share of dark rituals (séances) before, and red candles are used when calling forth the spirit of a departed loved one. The red represents the love and blood of the deceased you so cherished.

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Also, I don't have my Eorzean script image handy for easy reading but I've very sure that is actually Avare's name written on the ground ad nausum that forms the summoning circle. So yes, it's clear she's using necromancy to try and bring him back. And from what we've seen, in typical fantasy fashion, things don't go as planned...

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It seems the fight will be a guard NPC mechanic type of boss fight.

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Oh ****. "Edda! Don't step into the red circle; nevermind."

To be honest, i wouldn't mind it having a bad ending. Almost everything in any game always ends good anyway.

I think they should add more of this "horror" type of content.