Soldiery Tome shield worth it?

I am not on the game right now, and cant remember the name right now...
but is the soldiery shield worth it?
i currently have my zenith weapon. working on zodiac but its ALONG ways off. have not had a single atma drop yet and was at it for hours.
i am still working on myth gear.
is the shield worth it?
i have read that the soldiery priority for a paladin right now is Shield > Body > Ring?
content-wise I am ilvl 76 and running CT. I have not done coil yet or the extreme modes yet.

Holy Shield Animus ( which only requires 2 books after atma farm) is the same iLvl, I'd just skip the shield and shoot for that in your position.

Even if you did want the shield, I'd highly contest putting the shield over the body and ring purchase. Both are BiS if upgraded, and both give a slightly better vit -> Sold stones spent than the shield. I'm personally not going to purchase the shield until one of the last purchases.

I think the shield is worth it. The block rating goes down slightly meaning you will black less, but the block strength is significantly higher: I jumped from 27% damage reduction to a 38% damage reduction per block.

I purchased first and have loved it ever since.

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Originally Posted by Casteel

I think the shield is worth it.

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It's also upgradeable to 110 via SCoB drops whereas the animus is stuck at 100.

Animus isn't done at i100 and you could use the upgrade sand on your sol body.

personally, I don't like Tower type shield, so I stay away from it. I prefer Buckler shield. prolly have to change to Kite shield some time since there no i110 buckler T_T.
using wave shield atm and loving it ;) I'm solo tank T8 with it and got no issue, but it prolly not suit for T9 (unless I got my avg high a lot higher LOL)

What I like about Buckler shield the most is that it block a lot so my Shield Swipe is up quite often. it easier to manage TP and keep dealing damage when Shield Swipe has a lot of up time

yeah i also prefer the higher block rate type shields over block strength. as remn said it keeps the uptime on shield swipe much higher. also blocking more times than just more absorbtion probably even out in the end. i dont know the exact numbers. i would think a more consistent block would be better than higher blocks. steady mitigation as to more spikey mitigation.
i am ALONG way from being able to get enough soldiery marks for the chest. should i just save up and go for the chest or go ahead and get the ring?
i looked up the animus shield. its good too. but will be along time to get at the rate my atmas are dropping...which is zip. horrible luck so far.

hmmm. just dunno. just trying to get my ilvl up and get to where I can do more content.

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Originally Posted by Rextab

i am ALONG way from being able to get enough soldiery marks for the chest. should i just save up and go for the chest or go ahead and get the ring?

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The left-side stuff usually gives you more stats per tome making them better buys. Unless you have some pressing need for the ring.

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Originally Posted by Rextab

i am ALONG way from being able to get enough soldiery marks for the chest. should i just save up and go for the chest or go ahead and get the ring?

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Normally I'd say chest, but in your case I'd probably get the ring first to replace gladiator's ring. That's an 11(!!!) vit upgrade that you can get now, and you can continue running CT to try for the chest where as no accessories drop in CT.

If at all possible, make sure you cap your soldiery each week, I'd make that your primary objective.

Use Myth for valor body and sol for ring.

Left side is always better to upgrade so unless you have a solid coil static spend your tomes there. The only exception would be replacing an item because of a large ilvl gap. (Like your ring situation)

Here is my lodestone character link.
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/4326022/
I have the myth ring. I have a ilvl 55 ring as my other. it's the lowest item I have.
someone told me it was best, at this point, to go for accessories first since i can gear up using CT. i have been sort of doing a mix of the two.
i was thinking of saving the chest for last as I can upgrade two of my other ilvl 60 pieces for roughly the same cost.
i'll get it all eventually. just trying to make the best plan.
so skip the shield and get the soldiery tanking ring?

ring sound about right ;)

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Originally Posted by Rextab

Here is my lodestone character link.
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/4326022/
I have the myth ring. I have a ilvl 55 ring as my other. it's the lowest item I have.
someone told me it was best, at this point, to go for accessories first since i can gear up using CT. i have been sort of doing a mix of the two.
i was thinking of saving the chest for last as I can upgrade two of my other ilvl 60 pieces for roughly the same cost.
i'll get it all eventually. just trying to make the best plan.
so skip the shield and get the soldiery tanking ring?

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Get the chest piece first. In fact, it's easier to just get the most expensive pieces first. Same way I did for DL, hasn't been a bad decision at all.

Chest > Ring > Pants > w/e - is it for me
Personally i don't like the shield the Block ratio goes down so much compared to Relic :x
i preferred to get my Animus shield asap and then got lucky with T8 drop <3 High Allagan Shield

My first purchase was the shield. I don't regret it. I am not getting to T8 anytime soon and wanted a worthwhile and long lasting upgrade. Body is this week. Sucks having to plan out spending with 4 different jobs ; ; but ultimately my fault for loving them so much...

The block rate isn't that bad. On paper it looks silly, but in practice it ok. Plus it give more opportunity for your parry to activate, and bulwark is bananas!

Syn

i went ahead and got the ring last night. i might possibly save up and get the shield next. it will greatly depend on how close i am to the zodiac weapon when i get back enough soldiery tomes. still not a single atma drop, but i haven't had time to actively farm fates the past few days.

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Originally Posted by Kitru

It's also upgradeable to 110 via SCoB drops whereas the animus is stuck at 100.

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and behind hours of fate grinding ^^

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Originally Posted by Rextab

i went ahead and got the ring last night. i might possibly save up and get the shield next. it will greatly depend on how close i am to the zodiac weapon when i get back enough soldiery tomes. still not a single atma drop, but i haven't had time to actively farm fates the past few days.

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in terms of upgrading your gear, generally you want to upgrade the worst piece of gear first. Personally, (for PLD) Soldiery Feet, Hands, and Head are definitely all worse than coil drops (but hey, gotta get lucky with drops). The Body, The shield, and the ring are all great ideas (although the shield is debatable according to some). I would get the body first, as its a hefty 825 (2 weeks) soldiery tomes. get that out of the way and then can get the other 2 pieces weekly.

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Originally Posted by Synestr

My first purchase was the shield. I don't regret it. I am not getting to T8 anytime soon and wanted a worthwhile and long lasting upgrade. Body is this week. Sucks having to plan out spending with 4 different jobs ; ; but ultimately my fault for loving them so much...

The block rate isn't that bad. On paper it looks silly, but in practice it ok. Plus it give more opportunity for your parry to activate, and bulwark is bananas!

Syn

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yes, bulwark with this shield is insane. Those pulls in brayflox HM are silly when all you see is (Blocked -38%) over and over and over again.

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Originally Posted by Lord_Zlatan

Personally, (for PLD) Soldiery Feet, Hands, and Head are definitely all worse than coil drops (but hey, gotta get lucky with drops).

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Noct gloves end up being better than HA gloves in a 520acc parry oriented build. Feet and head are hands down better than Noct though, and they actually both drop on T6 so are more widely available than other drops.

Here's what I have calculated as BiS while staying above 520 accuracy.

High Allagan Blade
High Allagan Kite Shield
High Allagan Circlet of Fending
Noct Lorica
Noct Gaunt
High Allagan Belt of Fending
Noct Pants
High Allagan Sabatons of Fending
Noct Neck
High Allagan Earrings of Fending
High Allagan Bracelets of Fending
High Allagan Ring of Fending
Noct Ring

That'll stick you at 531 accuracy with popoto pancakes, which is 11 points over but that's just how the itemization lands. You can switch out the HA belt for Noct belt (512acc) for earlier turns, however it's probably a bad use of sand for your raid as a whole to upgrade Noct for encounters you'd have on farm by the time you hit BiS.

This all hinges on going for max parry, there's a thread out there arguing that dps stats might actually be better which I'd normally disagree with except that dps appears to be the biggest factor in T6-T8 so far. I'm still shooting for max parry, but every little bit of dps helps especially since Coil2 is still young and not many people are i100+ yet.

well i have the ring now, so i can mark it off the checklist. the chest i have seen several places is one of the three priority pieces. shield debatably being the other.
i will start working back up towards the shield. if it looks like i may be close to getting the zodiac upgrade, then i will keep saving for the chest. if not i may go ahead and get the shield.
i still have not done Coil at all, or some of the extremes. ilvl hit 78 last night.
just been running roulettes and CT so far.

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Originally Posted by Rextab

well i have the ring now, so i can mark it off the checklist. the chest i have seen several places is one of the three priority pieces. shield debatably being the other.
i will start working back up towards the shield. if it looks like i may be close to getting the zodiac upgrade, then i will keep saving for the chest. if not i may go ahead and get the shield.
i still have not done Coil at all, or some of the extremes. ilvl hit 78 last night.
just been running roulettes and CT so far.

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I would try T1 for the feet and neck(?) as they give acc and parry and will boos your iLvl. Don't be afraid to try T1 or T2. You may also get the shield from T1 so it might help you put off getting the shield while you parade other pieces.

are the randoms generally pretty good? i dont have a static. my FC is too small and made of mostly new people.
the randoms i get for CT are successful...but its weird. every time it seems there are two strong groups and one completely sucky ass group.
last one i was in was so bad that the both tanks from my group had to tank behemoth (not advised), but it worked. I tanked KB and the other tank got the adds.
all the other people who wanted to tank it kept eating meteors to the face. i prefer to click towers for the rest, but i volunteered. win. got tired of dieing.

well, I have never been in a static, pugged t1-4 without any problems pre echo buff. First time most people did T1 was when they were Full Darklight/ Relic +1. 10% buff to everyone with serious nerfs to key mechanics like High Voltage make T1 seriously way to easy. You will get groups that fail, to be sure, but as a tank you just gotta deal with it. either take the 30 minute penalty or vote abandon and get an instant que. The only things you need to be able to do in T1 now are dodge AoEs and establish where to pull the boss upon splitting. Its really easy now, and gives you good tanning gear (body, shield, boots, and 1 accessory which I can't remember).

Trust me, just queue and get your gear.

Is 520 the acc target for t9? Noct hoplon is only shield with acc on it?

520 is pretty easy to get for accuracy even without a shield with acc on it. seeing as u can always use food for acc if u cant reach the cap

weather noct sheild/ hq version is a really awsome upgrade to your pld. while many people might prefer a buckler type like wave shield, i personly prefer tower shield over them, even more than kite shields. you ask why?

my reasons:

1- block is calculated before parry, meaning you get less use of your parry stat with a buckler type shield
2- buckler shields block around 20% of incoming dmg, while a simple parry mitigates 24%
3-bulwark will become an amazing buff because blocking will reduce 38-40% dmg *depend on hq or nq*

Ba3oo,
the first reason only work if you stack parry, which i'm not. I'm currently stacking Acc > DeT & Crit > parry.
so buckler type is perfect for me. in addition, buckler shield allow you to use more shield swipe, so a bit more damage overall and better TP management.

to me Bulwak is not that useful as it only work with physical damage and it got 3 min CD.

It is not really worth it cuz u get high allegan shield in t8, which is fairly straightforward. i100 levi should tide u over till then. Animus is too much grind for me so nthx.

wont argue that high allagan is BiS, but to many its probably its far away for them to get, ( still at around 30% T8hp so not too far hopfuly )

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the first reason only work if you stack parry, which i'm not. I'm currently stacking Acc > DeT & Crit > parry.
so buckler type is perfect for me

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i totaly agree with you, if your not stacking parry then you will probably get more out of a buckler type shield.... but whether to stack parry or some other stat .. thats a totaly diffrent topi lol

as for running out of TP... i do coil up to t8, and never had i issues with TP (i never swipe even when it procs) cause i dont want to risk losing hate.. beside swiping is not very helpful since the debuff dont hit any major bosses.... only T5 after Dreadnight phase cause i would have used up most of my TP stunning... but even then by the time i need TP boss would die... most other fights there is always time to regan TP