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Is there any way we could get some kind of notification on the desktop (even if it's just the program icon in the task bar flashing) when the a duty finder party is ready.

For DPS waiting 30 minutes+ for a duty finder party, checking forums/twitter/anything else on the web whilst waiting for a duty finder party is the only thing that can keep us sane. However unless you have a second screen this is a very very bad idea because you can guarantee that the second you hit alt-tab the party you have been waiting for for 30 minutes+ will instantly fill up and you will get withdrawn from the duty.

Current off peak duty finder times are completely against the reason of the duty finder, which was designed for people who wanted to find a party quickly, not caring about who they party with. The biggest problem with the duty finder is wait times, particularly with DPS, maybe people don't want to craft or gather whilst waiting, for them there is nothing they can do except stand around for 30 mins+ something needs to be done to either lower these wait times or have some desktop notification, so we can at least browse the web whilst waiting on the DF.

Why don't you just enable FFXIV to play sounds while it's not the active window? The chime is pretty loud.

You could set the game so it doesn't mute sound when it's in the background and listen for the ding. You can also set your game to borderless windowed mode and shrink your internet browser so you can still see the game and watch for the notification too.

These are all workarounds, I tend to play the game in my living room where people are watching TV, so the only way enabling sounds when the game is minimized would work is using headphones, and unless I really need to I don't really like playing with headphones.

A simple desktop notification (or flashing icon) would be a much better solution, also if you think about the bigger picture, if a deaf player is playing then the sounds are a none option.

Get a second monitor. Works great for tabbing out since you can still see the game. I doubt they will make the icon flash when a duty is ready.

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These are all workarounds, I tend to play the game in my living room where people are watching TV, so the only way enabling sounds when the game is minimized would work is using headphones, and unless I really need to I don't really like playing with headphones.

A simple desktop notification (or flashing icon) would be a much better solution, also if you think about the bigger picture, if a deaf player is playing then the sounds are a none option.

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I have sound enabled with XIV on background and watch youtube videos while waiting for DF to pop. Dunno about your hearing, but the duty chime always managed to override the movie's sound to me. The only couple times I didn't notice DF window's pop was when I was in a whole other room such as bathroom or kitchen.

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I have sound enabled with XIV on background and watch youtube videos while waiting for DF to pop. Dunno about your hearing, but the duty chime always managed to override the movie's sound to me. The only couple times I didn't notice DF window's pop was when I was in a whole other room such as bathroom or kitchen.

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What the post you quoted was saying, was other people are watching TV, and hearing background sounds from FFXIV will really annoy them, it's not about not being able to hear the chime.

I never seem to miss my DF ping when playing DD. Maybe thats because instead of sitting around doing nothing in game and surfer the web, I go do stuff like, idk, My beastmen dailies, farm for materials, and if it's class I'm leveling, I do my hunting log while waiting, and fates. It's only YOUR fault if you miss you DF, and your fault alone. Asking square give you something that will alert you when you're not even paying attention to the game in the first place is just ridiculous(considering you can already do it anyway). Sqaure made this game for you to play, not for you to turn on, and then just look away from while you do other things. I never feel bad for people that miss their DF because they tab'd out to go play OSU, or surf the web.

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I never seem to miss my DF ping when playing DD. Maybe thats because instead of sitting around doing nothing in game and surfer the web, I go do stuff like, idk, My beastmen dailies, farm for materials, and if it's class I'm leveling, I do my hunting log while waiting, and fates. It's only YOUR fault if you miss you DF, and your fault alone. Asking square give you something that will alert you when you're not even paying attention to the game in the first place is just ridiculous(considering you can already do it anyway). Sqaure made this game for you to play, not for you to turn on, and then just look away from while you do other things. I never feel bad for people that miss their DF because they tab'd out to go play OSU, or surf the web.

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What got stuck up your butt? No need to be rude to someone who's just asking for more QoL in a game they play.

OT: Until they add a feature that helps you, you might want to try playing in windowed mode. That way you can see the pop while looking at your browser. If you don't want sound playing through the house, that's the only other option I can think of aside from the dual-monitors someone else mentioned.

If this is something people are interested in, I can work on it when the add-on API is released. Shouldn't really be too hard.

Install add-on, install desktop program, when the duty popup event is detected the add-on sends a signal to the desktop program and it pops up with a "Your duty is ready!"

Just...prepare yourself for CT.

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A simple desktop notification (or flashing icon) would be a much better solution, also if you think about the bigger picture, if a deaf player is playing then the sounds are a none option.

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Workarounds to your problem not the game's problem. There doesn't need to be a solution because it's not actually an issue.

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You can also set your game to borderless windowed mode and shrink your internet browser so you can still see the game and watch for the notification too.

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Granted this is also an issue for players who are both blind and deaf.

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What the post you quoted was saying, was other people are watching TV, and hearing background sounds from FFXIV will really annoy them, it's not about not being able to hear the chime.

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>.> I'm just going to say it.

XIV sounds annoying people watching tv? Move the computer into another room. Problem solved.

Seriously? Sounds are too annoying? Turn off all audio except the sound that chimes. You don't need music and ambient noise when you aren't doing anything. If you aren't in front of your machine when the chime goes off that's on you. You really expect them to allow you to be lazier? The players who actually sit there and pay attention get parties, and those who don't miss the invite. Seems pretty fair to me.

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What got stuck up your butt? No need to be rude to someone who's just asking for more QoL in a game they play.

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Welcome to the internet, you must be new here. It's a wondrous place where people complain about the same stupid crap so often, that the ability to be perfectly nice to each person that brings it up is impossible.

FYI, QoL in a game doesn't relate to the player's laziness outside of the game. If you miss a queue pop because you're to lazy to play the game while waiting on it, then you have no right to complain and suggest/demand that the developer include a system to accommodate your laziness. There are much better/more important things for them to work on besides making sure that the guy that Alt tabbed out of the game doesn't miss a queue. In fact a better system would be to have a feature that slaps a penalty on anyone that misses a queue because they were alt tabbed. Remember, you have 3-23 other people to think about when you queue up, so you missing the queue is more inconvenient to them then it is to you.

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I never seem to miss my DF ping when playing DD. Maybe thats because instead of sitting around doing nothing in game and surfer the web, I go do stuff like, idk, My beastmen dailies, farm for materials, and if it's class I'm leveling, I do my hunting log while waiting, and fates. It's only YOUR fault if you miss you DF, and your fault alone. Asking square give you something that will alert you when you're not even paying attention to the game in the first place is just ridiculous(considering you can already do it anyway). Sqaure made this game for you to play, not for you to turn on, and then just look away from while you do other things. I never feel bad for people that miss their DF because they tab'd out to go play OSU, or surf the web.

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And we all think that you're so cool for it. Specifically the concept that asking a company that provides a product that you pay for whether or not it would be possible to improve said product in a way that benefits you as a paying customer being "ridiculous" so cool.

I have two monitors (technically 1 monitor & 1 HDTV that can be used as a monitor) sitting around, but can't make use of them because I don't have anything to hook them to my PC. *sigh* I'd so love to have a second monitor.

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I have two monitors (technically 1 monitor & 1 HDTV that can be used as a monitor) sitting around, but can't make use of them because I don't have anything to hook them to my PC. *sigh* I'd so love to have a second monitor.

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Your graphics card can't handle multiple displays? Most of them come with multiple ports. Surely you don't mean you just need a cable.

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Your graphics card can't handle multiple displays? Most of them come with multiple ports. Surely you don't mean you just need a cable.

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I do need a cable. One of them needs that and a power adapter (when my brother moved out, he took all of the extra power adapters from my old PC). Though don't get me started on my graphics card, much less my PC...

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I do need a cable. One of them needs that and a power adapter (when my brother moved out, he took all of the extra power adapters from my old PC). Though don't get me started on my graphics card, much less my PC...

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Well at least you just need the cables and not another display. Doing pretty good compared to other people stuck on a single display.

I was only questioning since you seemed to make it sound worse than it was. Dropping less than 50 bucks on some cables would be totally worth it man. Multiple displays are awesome.

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Workarounds to your problem not the game's problem. There doesn't need to be a solution because it's not actually an issue.

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The hostility really isn't needed here.

I very much appreciate how Rift flashes the taskbar icon when something happens in the game and you're not tabbed into it - such as entering combat, getting a party invite or a whisper, the dungeon queue popping, etc. It's a very simple thing and quite useful.

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The hostility really isn't needed here.

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That came off as hostile? Was it the italics? I tend to take more provocation to be truly hostile towards someone. And I did offer solutions to his problem originally to be fair.

Either way, the problem is not that the game isn't telling him something. It's that he's not paying attention.

Like if you were talking to me and I wasn't listening. And you take offense to me not listening but, I tell you to just speak louder. It's not your problem, it's mine.

I don't mean to say the feature wouldn't be nice. But it's not an issue or a problem or a design flaw and shouldn't be treated as such. And no it was not directly described as such, but he said "solution." You don't look for solutions to suggestions. They answer problems. Problems are bad. Perhaps his words should have been chosen better.

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Welcome to the internet, you must be new here. It's a wondrous place where people complain about the same stupid crap so often, that the ability to be perfectly nice to each person that brings it up is impossible.

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Here's an idea: A thread popped up that I don't like? How about I just not respond at all instead of being an ass hat?

Adding an option or some other notification when the game is minimized does not effect me in any way. But really. Is your attention span that short?

I would rather see penalties for people missing the 45 (is it 45? I don't remember because I am always there to hit the button like some people) second 'ready up' window. Miss 3 in a hour or so and 30 min ban from DF.

I just want to quote this in agreement.

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I never seem to miss my DF ping when playing DD. Maybe thats because instead of sitting around doing nothing in game and surfer the web, I go do stuff like, idk, My beastmen dailies, farm for materials, and if it's class I'm leveling, I do my hunting log while waiting, and fates. It's only YOUR fault if you miss you DF, and your fault alone. Asking square give you something that will alert you when you're not even paying attention to the game in the first place is just ridiculous(considering you can already do it anyway). Sqaure made this game for you to play, not for you to turn on, and then just look away from while you do other things. I never feel bad for people that miss their DF because they tab'd out to go play OSU, or surf the web.

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The hostility in this thread is really baffling to me.

RE: OP's Original Request/Comments - I completely agree. I think sometimes as a DD it's painful enough that the wait time can be 30 mins or more on DF. I don't always stay tabbed into the game - and out of consideration for the other person I live with I do not play with the volume on.

I would love to see a feature like what is being suggested -- just a little visual que in case you are tabbed out. I don't see why people are so adamantly/violently against it? If it were implemented in a way that you could "option out" or keep it turned off then I can't imagine what harm it would do?

Also - how annoying is it when the DF has to re-pop because the DD clearly was AFK and missed it in the first place? Not as annoying as tanks/healers withdrawing because the instance isn't already in progress - but still...

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That came off as hostile? Was it the italics? I tend to take more provocation to be truly hostile towards someone. And I did offer solutions to his problem originally to be fair.

Either way, the problem is not that the game isn't telling him something. It's that he's not paying attention.

Like if you were talking to me and I wasn't listening. And you take offense to me not listening but, I tell you to just speak louder. It's not your problem, it's mine.

I don't mean to say the feature wouldn't be nice. But it's not an issue or a problem or a design flaw and shouldn't be treated as such. And no it was not directly described as such, but he said "solution." You don't look for solutions to suggestions. They answer problems. Problems are bad. Perhaps his words should have been chosen better.

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Honestly most people here are sounding very hostile, the feature I am asking for is in a lot of windows programs, and should be very simple to add. If people don't alt tab whilst DF is open then good for you, I aren't complaining, I am just stating that this is what some people would do rather than sit around waiting. It's not that I aren't paying attention it's more at that paticular time I don't want to do other things, also if I have maxed my beastmen rep is maxed out, I don't like crafting and gathering isn't really worth it, therefore there is not a lot to do, so why not use another application whilst waiting. We do afterall use PCs to multitask, if you just want to play a game and nothing else that's what consoles are for.

But thank you for showing me the truth of the community. One thing gets requested and because "You should be playing the game" everyone is being hostile, and even attacking me over it

A very big complaint of 1.0 was that we can't alt-tab, and now according to replies in this thread we can't use it because we aren't playing the game?

hahaha. Ahhhhh. :D

Could the game txt me when the DF is ready?

Call my mom so that she can call me if i'm not accepting DF within 2 mins?

Maybe a "bat signal" in the sky to warn me the DF is ready !?

BoltNixter, that was a very gratuitous attempt at ridiculing something that fell flat thanks to you not understanding what is being asked: programs that flash in the taskbar aren't some far-fetched only-in-your-wildest-dreams feature. It's something a lot of other programs use and there's even at least one MMO that does exactly that.

Considering there's not much to do besides crafting, gathering or grinding, I think it's a good idea. Not everyone likes those things (I certainly don't like crafting here, and because I don't like crafting I don't like gathering either, and I had all the grinding I would ever want from Lineage 2, thanks), so if they want to alt-tab while waiting for the the content they actually find fun and interesting let them. There's nothing to win in being against such a feature.