Do Jobs = Ishgard???

Dragoon... Paladin... monk

All of these jobs are similar in technique to the classes they sprout from....
But in their philosophy they differ greatly...

So....

Ishgard is run by a religious zealot bishop and is devoted to the fight against dragons

Paladin has always had religious (holy) overtones

Dragoon has always been either one who battled with dragons or one who fought against dragons. It changes from game to game

Monk is more spiritual than religious really and doesn't really seem to side with Ishgard but (And this is a stretch) could be a part of some resistance group opposed to the dictatorship of the Bishop

This is all just wild speculation but could the new jobs tie heavily into Ishgard?

The soldiers outside of Ishgard claim that you need the blessing of Halone the Fury to enter the city (Halone being the guardian deity most associated with Gladiators) which could tie into the twelve, Archons and Umbral era's and all that jazz

If Ishgard isn't introduced this way, I wont be mad, but I'd love it if it was

That would be great.
We just have no idea on how complete Ishgard is. It would be an awesome surprise if it was ready by the job system patch, but I can't really picture them not hyping it up.

A dragoon is just mounted infantry actually :P
Personally I find Coerthas the most beautiful and interesting, but the lack of regional content keeps most players away from those lands. I hope it gets implemented soon :/

The knights of ishgard are called dragoons. It's stated in a few quests. Though wasn't the job confirmed to be coming out called Dragon Knight?

Dragon Knight and Dragoon are interchangeable as far as I know. I think Dragon Knight is literally what the name for the job translates to from Japanese to English.

Ishgard or Companies. I want jobs to be unlocked with some story tied with one of these 2.

Dragon knight was just the way it was translated. It used the same kanji used in FFXI for dragoon.

The dragoons is ishgards infantry (those guys on the chocobos) while dragon knights are warriors trained to fight dragons (no chocobo required). We might learn more once the story progresses to the part where we actually see ishgard fighting dragons.

Though I wouldn't mind having Ishgard open, if jobs and their abilities are indeed quested, I would hope that their lore would be spread throughout the world.

I personally hope that job quests are spread out between the cities and that Ishgard brings new classes and jobs to the table when it opens to the public.

I was hoping that they would introduce the Jobs in Ishgard. They could lower the current quest rank requirements and then at R30/35 you get your Job unlock quest which takes you to Ishgard where you meet your required Job's teacher.

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Originally Posted by YUGON

Ishgard or Companies. I want jobs to be unlocked with some story tied with one of these 2.

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It's really hard to tell, isn't it?
In my head I imagined companies to have their own military ranks and be more tied in to large-scale PVE

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Originally Posted by AlexiaKidd

I was hoping that they would introduce the Jobs in Ishgard. They could lower the current quest rank requirements and then at R30/35 you get your Job unlock quest which takes you to Ishgard where you meet your required Job's teacher.

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It would also tie in well to the one to fifty long zone thread

Can I just have Ishgard, companies, AND jobs?

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Originally Posted by Malakhim

Can I just have Ishgard, companies, AND jobs?

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Well you will definitely have companies and Jobs soon... And all fingers are crossed for Ishgard implementation

If I recall correctly, the devs put it on record that Ishgard is being held back until about the same time they're ready for the PS3 release - after all the major fixes.

Sorry to rain on hopes like the storm over Gridania....

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Originally Posted by Catapult

If I recall correctly, the devs put it on record that Ishgard is being held back until about the same time they're ready for the PS3 release - after all the major fixes.

Sorry to rain on hopes like the storm over Gridania....

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lol
Maybe PS3 is not too far behind jobs?!?!?!?

I hope we'll get job quests from respective guilds and they implement Ishgard with real content, possibly even new classes.

if ffxiv is any comparison to ffxi in terms of content wise and when it was released, jeuno didn't open up for a while after JP launch. when it opened, it implemented a lot of new stuff like airships and chocobos.

imagine if ishgard was ffixiv's jueno. airships are said to be implemented around 1.19. also new jobs. something big like that would have to open with something huge like say, the implementation of Ishgard since thats pretty much what they did with jueno.

what do u guys think?

It'd be interesting to see a dev response to this this week.

I think a response about Ishgard in general would be nice. but... nobody pays me in gum :(

I heard Ishgard was in combination with airships/chocobo. Which I bet those two features will be ready by the time PS3 release lol

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Originally Posted by ApplePie

I heard Ishgard was in combination with airships/chocobo. Which I bet those two features will be ready by the time PS3 release lol

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Well Yoshi P. said they are trying to get airships ready for 1.19 so I doubt they will be holding them for PS3 release. Still I think they may hold Ishgard back for the PS3 release just to build more hype.

The only timeframe we've gotten regarding Ishgard has been "after the battle fixes," so I guess it could line up with jobs and companies, but I wouldn't get my hopes up. :(

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

To speak to the original post: Abriael is pretty much right on the nose. It was stated that while there isn't a firm timeframe to share, the implementation of Ishgard, and related content, will debut after the battle fixes are introduced.

While we understand your enthusiasm to see Ishgard-related content and the upcoming battle fixes, and I know some of you want an exact year/month/day/hour/minute/second, we unfortunately don't have to share at this time.

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ll=1#post96330

Perhaps we will see a summoner class come out of Ishgard. I want my Pug(Monk) to be able to summon a dragon ^^

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Originally Posted by SAMINUS

Perhaps we will see a summoner class come out of Ishgard. I want my Pug(Monk) to be able to summon a dragon ^^

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Uhhh... unfortunately I will have to say good luck with that...

Summoning Wyverns will definitely be locked to DRG lol...

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Originally Posted by Hellsoul-Sama

Uhhh... unfortunately I will have to say good luck with that...

Summoning Wyverns will definitely be locked to DRG lol...

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I figured as much, though can't I daydream a little? ^^

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Originally Posted by Hellsoul-Sama

Uhhh... unfortunately I will have to say good luck with that...

Summoning Wyverns will definitely be locked to DRG lol...

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Well then summon a DRG who will summon a wyvern...>_>;

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Originally Posted by AlexiaKidd

Well Yoshi P. said they are trying to get airships ready for 1.19 so I doubt they will be holding them for PS3 release. Still I think they may hold Ishgard back for the PS3 release just to build more hype.

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Thats very possible...

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Originally Posted by Chrees

The only timeframe we've gotten regarding Ishgard has been "after the battle fixes," so I guess it could line up with jobs and companies, but I wouldn't get my hopes up. :(

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I'm not holding my breath... but dare to dream much???

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Originally Posted by SAMINUS

Perhaps we will see a summoner class come out of Ishgard. I want my Pug(Monk) to be able to summon a dragon ^^

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The desperate housewife in the Pugilist class quests (Lewena) says she is seeking excitement and hints about going to Ishgard to raise a pet (If I remember correctly, a behemoth). Her assistant promptly warns her that the pets get quite large and dangerous... So Ishgard could definitely involve some pet type stuff... or maybe not... guess we'll have to wait and see

Regarding Ishgard, the team said after the battle fixes and everything is out of the way, they hope to implement the mountainous city into the game world.

As far as jobs go, I don't remember any exact time frame, due to bad memory, but it should be sooner than later. At least until after the battle fixes are complete and out of the teams way.

Ishgard, in fact, has Dragoons present in their current standing armies. They are mostly seen wielding either Lance or Sword when featured in cut-scenes, so maybe future quests regarding "Jobs" such as Dragoon or Paladin, and the continuation of your classes story arks, will possibly bring players into the city of Ishgard.

Of course, this is ALL purely speculation and should not be taken as fact as of yet, until further notice. But it's fun just to imagine the future for now.

If anything, the only jobs you'll ever have interacting with Ishgard primarily, are jobs hailing from Gridania, since almost all of their class quests have you interacting with the neighboring Ishgardians.

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Originally Posted by Leonesaurus

Regarding Ishgard, the team said after the battle fixes and everything is out of the way, they hope to implement the mountainous city into the game world.

As far as jobs go, I don't remember any exact time frame, due to bad memory, but it should be sooner than later. At least until after the battle fixes are complete and out of the teams way.

Ishgard, in fact, has Dragoons present in their current standing armies. They are mostly seen wielding either Lance or Sword when featured in cut-scenes, so maybe future quests regarding "Jobs" such as Dragoon or Paladin, and the continuation of your classes story arks, will possibly bring players into the city of Ishgard.

Of course, this is ALL purely speculation and should not be taken as fact as of yet, until further notice. But it's fun just to imagine the future for now.

If anything, the only jobs you'll ever have interacting with Ishgard primarily, are jobs hailing from Gridania, since almost all of their class quests have you interacting with the neighboring Ishgardians.

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Yea that was pretty much my line of thinking on it as well..
BTW, I found your youtube FFXIV videos entertaining...

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Originally Posted by AtlasThomas

I think a response about Ishgard in general would be nice. but... nobody pays me in gum :(

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I think we deserve a little Ishgard action too....
BTW, thats new Trident layers

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Originally Posted by ApplePie

I heard Ishgard was in combination with airships/chocobo. Which I bet those two features will be ready by the time PS3 release lol

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Now that we know Yoshi is wanting to do Chocobo's and Airships in 1.19 sometime this summer... does that change things?

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Originally Posted by Rydin

Now that we know Yoshi is wanting to do Chocobo's and Airships in 1.19 sometime this summer... does that change things?

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I'm glad I'm able to interpret summer as being near Christmas. Southern Hemisphere and all. Stops my hopes getting too inflated.

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Originally Posted by Catapult

I'm glad I'm able to interpret summer as being near Christmas. Southern Hemisphere and all. Stops my hopes getting too inflated.

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So end of March for you is end of summer????

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Originally Posted by Lyndis

The knights of ishgard are called dragoons. It's stated in a few quests. Though wasn't the job confirmed to be coming out called Dragon Knight?

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Even if this was the case, the job names are the way they are to be "traditional" Final Fantasy. So it would have to be Dragoon :P

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Originally Posted by Hellsoul-Sama

Uhhh... unfortunately I will have to say good luck with that...

Summoning Wyverns will definitely be locked to DRG lol...

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That only ever happened in FFXI.

In all the other games they were mounts for dragoons and/or enemies (except FFV where it was a mount for Buttz and Wind Drakes were almost extinct).

Regardless, Wyverns/Wind Drakes have been a separate creature from Dragons in every game except XI, XII, and Tactics A2, where Dragons are a creature type and Wyverns are a specific kind of dragon.

So theoretically you can still summon a dragon without having to summon a wyvern.

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Originally Posted by Rydin

So end of March for you is end of summer????

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More like end of Feb, but you've the general idea. Sadly, this also means that New Years Eve will sometimes be subject to a day of total fire ban, so no fireworks some years.