Will this achievement still be available when the echo buff becomes available in 2.2? Not a huge deal or anything, I just think it would be cool for SE to lock it out in order to show the players that downed Twin pre nerf. You could argue that players could do it without the buff, but then they could farm all the higher gear coming in 2.2 and go in with full ilvl 100/110/120 (w/e it raises to), which would give an advantage to those attempting it after 2.2 that we don't have at this point in time.
Again, let me stress, not a big deal, just curious I guess. I see people upset about their gear becoming obsolete, which is something I really could care less about, but I think our hard work and skill should be preserved at least in an achievement form.
The Binds That Tie Achievement in 2.2?
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03-05-2014, 06:45 AMKimura410The Binds That Tie Achievement in 2.2?
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03-05-2014, 06:48 AMTaika
I doubt they make any achievements unavailable. However you can see from the Lodestone when people got their achievements and access to new Coil zones.
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03-05-2014, 06:50 AMLemon8or
They won't remove it. The achievement is for beating turn 5, not beating turn 5 before a specific patch.
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03-05-2014, 06:51 AMForteXX
They said a while ago (a thread about exactly this) that it wouldnt be happening.
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03-05-2014, 08:44 AMQuizSo you say a few times that is "isn't a big deal" but then you go on to say you could care less about it? Which is it? Those are 2 contradictory statements.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kimura410
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03-05-2014, 09:05 AMninthfantasy
I just downed T5 tonight with my FC (finally, and thank god we did it before the nerf) so since I'm feeling all victorious, high and mighty right now, I would love that achievement to be available to those who did it before the nerf. However, nerfing content when new content comes out will always happen, so I highly doubt they'll let us have an achievement to ourselves. Are the achievements dated? Like, does it say when it was rewarded? If so, that can be our bragging point :P
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03-05-2014, 09:28 AMForteXXThats not contradictory, those are both the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quiz
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03-05-2014, 09:29 AMEardstapa
Games rarely lock out achievements unless they are seasonal events... Sorry mate, but just because not everyone has a static that can co-operate properly to down Twin doesn't mean achievements should be locked, and a lot more groups unfortunately have been shut down by the RNG not giving them drops to help make the fight that much smoother (Coil BiS items, etc) Brag all y'all want about beating an 'un-nerfed' Twin, but remember... If you didn't do it before the Twister fix, you should be locked out from the cheevo too ;)
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03-05-2014, 09:30 AMTupsiThey made plenty of achievements unavailable if you didn't notice. With this specifically they might change it to include the newer turns, but they already have precedence on moving old achievements.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taika
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03-05-2014, 09:32 AMQuizNo, "couldn't care less" means the same as the first thing he said. If he COULD care less than he obviously cares enough that it is possible to careess. If he COULDN'T care less it means his level of caring couldn't possibly go any lower.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForteXX
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03-05-2014, 09:34 AMAmandaHuggenkissThis was because the nature of the game was changing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tupsi
As far as I know In order to get the gold trophy on the PS3/PS4 you will need to get all achievements I don't see them making any current achievements impossible to get. -
03-05-2014, 09:51 AMCherie
Most lodestone profiles seem to have their achievement page disabled anyway? Or is it that you can only look at people's achievements after you have friended them? Either way, who will really know if you got the achievement or not?
I mean, you will know but not really sure why it would matter if you are the only one that knows. It's like a Illuminati Olympics! :P -
03-05-2014, 10:55 AMLicus
Sorry Kimura410, everyone can have anything handed to them in this game. There is no lasting rewards for the player who managed to down the more difficult content.
Edit: I think it would be cool if you could only make progress on the achievement if you remove the echo buff and had an average item level of 90. -
03-05-2014, 10:58 AMPylfer
Yeah unless they pull a WoW and drastically alter stuff in previous patches/expansions we should not ever be faced with "disappearing achievements". At most they would just alter them like they have in the past :p
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03-05-2014, 11:01 AMPylferTo get gold on PS3 you just need to get the other trophies (obviously). That being said you don't need to get all the achievements. For instance, the PS3 has 1 PvP trophy... it is "participate in one PvP match".Quote:
Originally Posted by AmandaHuggenkiss
Others include getting all of your crafting classes and gathering classes, getting to lvl 10 or 15 or something and then A) making 1,000 things on each crafting class, and B) Gathering 1,000 things as a gathering class.
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03-05-2014, 11:43 AMEardstapahttp://www.playstationtrophies.org/g...born/trophies/Quote:
Originally Posted by AmandaHuggenkiss
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03-05-2014, 12:41 PMKimura410And that my friends is what we in the business call a typographical error. But while we are on the subject of nitpicking a video game forums thread, the word "careess", that you used, is not a word.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quiz
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03-05-2014, 12:47 PMForteXXhttp://dictionary.reference.com/brow...%27t+care+lessQuote:
Originally Posted by Quiz
sent.
I don't care!; I don't care to the maximum amount, and it is, therefore, impossible to care any less. (The affirmative version does not make sense, but is widely used, nonetheless.) : So you're late. I couldn't care less.
And if you dont think its not a big deal (what he said at the start), then you dont care. -
03-05-2014, 12:47 PMThorauku
You should probably ask SE to make a statue for you showing you downed T5 pre-2.2.
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03-05-2014, 12:55 PMKimura410After re-reading my post I new this was coming lol. I was like damn somebody is going to mention that it has already been nerfed once. And honestly, thats pretty true. I guess nobody but BG deserves the achievement if we are going by my original post's mentality. You're absolutely right. At the very least, anyone who did it without outside help such as youtube videos, should probably be entitled to it just because it's still a very tough fight if you are figuring out the strategies on your own, which would lock the wide majority of us who downed it out. It could be argued that the fight itself is a bit of luck due to RNG anyways, so the world first kill could have possibly taken longer, or earlier to clear, depending on where Twin decided to shoot her LHs or who got targeted by twisters etc. Still, I stand corrected and thats a good point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eardstapa
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03-05-2014, 01:19 PMEardstapa
I am just glad you did not take it offensively like many seem to on these forums.
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03-05-2014, 04:43 PMKimura410No way, I can admit when Im wrong and can see other points of view. You definitely made me realize that the way I came with this thread is probably the same way the most hardcore guilds feel about people who beat it after seeing videos or have more time to beat the fight, resulting in better gear and such.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eardstapa
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03-05-2014, 04:47 PMCrimson-Falconits not like nerf will make you avoid divebombsQuote:
Originally Posted by ninthfantasy
just will make the fight a bit quicker thats all -
03-05-2014, 04:48 PMReishi
I'm SO much looking forward to all the FCs selling Twin kills /sarcasm off
However what exactly is this echo buff everyone's talking about? I stopped playing for some weeks and also didn't read the forums during that time, so I kinda missed that. -
03-05-2014, 05:30 PMUlathskullsplitter
Everyone but Blue garter needed a nerf to down turn 5. No achievement for anybody but them then.
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03-05-2014, 05:38 PMKuwagamioh cause i90 is needed for T5 now ? Last time I checked a guide, they were saying 80+ as long as you have the hp needed for fireballsQuote:
Originally Posted by Licus
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03-05-2014, 06:41 PMAujo
Just go create "OH I DOWN TWIN BEFORE 2.2" thread. Pretty sure u get lots of followers
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03-05-2014, 07:49 PMninthfantasyYeah, I know, we just wanted the pride of saying we did it before they made it easier haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crimson-Falcon
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03-05-2014, 08:19 PMSarcasmMisserI don't disagree with you, but it is unfair to say everyone else needed a nerf. Everyone is forgetting all the t5 downtime due to exploits and gearing that made the race to clear a lot longer than it might of been, and they literally patched it days after bg cleared. No one had a chance after world first and I would of loved to have the chance to clear it with the original twisters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ulathskullsplitter
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03-05-2014, 11:34 PMAmandaHuggenkissNot days, HOURS.Quote:
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03-06-2014, 12:20 AMSove92
SE can simply change the description of these achievements. The area of T1-T5 is The Ragnarok and the descriptions can simply be changed to "Completed The Ragnarok x times", no need to lock any achievements out or take any away.
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03-06-2014, 02:13 AMNeroLoL..Quote:
Originally Posted by Kimura410
Can we get rid of Golden Tools and their Achievements then as well? I got all of them when it actually meant shit and not in 2.0, where it isnt a big deal anymore. Or the Leveling Achievements? Those were harder as well... -
03-06-2014, 03:42 AMFelisThe same buff you get if you died in a instanced quest fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reishi
Only that you get it at the beginning in coil and not after the duty failed.
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03-06-2014, 04:25 AMYumi_umiUm, i don't think anyone else beat T5 pre nerfed cuz technically the only FC that did was the order of the blue garter. But still beating T5 is an achievement and i have yet to get that.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninthfantasy
So everyone here on the forums saying they beat twin pre nerfed probably means the beat it before the last nerf or the upcoming 2.2 echo buff fiasco. -
03-06-2014, 04:31 AMYumi_umi
Also fcs will probably just tackle it and wait in their off time for BG to post a video/ mr happy; explaining all the new turns with all their devilish twists and mechanics.
Then people whill then proceed to copy and paste and claim their so called hard earned achievement that doesn't mean much unless it unlocks some kind of gear or weapon or the main quest. -
03-06-2014, 06:21 AMKuwagamiNot wanting to be mean, but you won't beat T5 if you keep with your tanking attitude as a WHM ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by Yumi_umi
also, if you expect people to beat anything from mr happy's videos, you can wait for a long time, as many of his "guides" are plainly wrong (titan and ifrit EX for example, or at least they were if he updated them) -
03-06-2014, 06:27 AMninthfantasyYeah, that's what I meant. I meant as in, I'm glad we got it down before they nerf it in 2.2 xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Yumi_umi
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03-06-2014, 07:56 AMMakadoWhat are you referring to, 1.0 achievements? Or have they removed any from the release of 2.0?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tupsi
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03-06-2014, 08:42 AMHanemakikazeTwintania has been nerfed for months so that wouldn't be fair anyway, tossing in another nerf shouldnt change that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kimura410
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03-06-2014, 08:55 AMKuwagamiTotally out of subject but I love the tribute you made (cf your sig). CS were really awesome back in 1.xxQuote:
Originally Posted by Hanemakikaze