Market Wards/City-states Repopulation

With the guild marks becoming more available to each city the guild is actually in, a question arose in my head.

Will they link the market wards between the city-states?

I can't help but feel, even with incentives to go to other areas such as Limsa and Gridania, why both if a majority of the items being sold are still in Ul'dah?

Has a rep already commented on if there will be a linking of the three city-state markets? I know if I could grab any item from a linked market I'd actually stay in either of the other two cities vs Ul'dah.

As the crappy crafter that I am. My leatherworking skill is crap, only rank 22. I would like to go to Gridania to use the mastershop. unfortunately what happens if I run out of materials? I go to the empty market ward and get nothing? I don't want to waste anima teleporting between the two cities every few hours.

I hope so. This is a case where "realism" is just annoying.

It isn't realistic, but it's annoying to go Uldah every time you want to buy materials.

What they need to do and they should have done from the start is link all the city state markets, give everyone 1 retainer, and just increase the inventory slots on the retainer for each retainer they give us.

maybe add some quests to increase the slots, something to make it more simple, i hate going from 1 ward to another just to check where my stuff is, if i forget where it is its a hassle and a waste of time to find which retainer i put it on. or i try to keep all the types of each item on 1 retainer so i dont waste space and i have to keep going back and forth, its bullshit. i would put them in one ward but they dont all sell the same shit, so i would lose the tax reduction.

that brings up another thought, they should just make every ward the same taxes. i highly doubt everyone would jam their retainers in the same area for convienience purposes only, i wouldn't want to be lagging out or struggling to even target a retainer just because its more convienient. or worse dcing because of the lag spike caused by too many toons in one area, or waiting a minute to see my retainer or someone elses spawn.

What I want is 3 Retainers, but you can only summon 1 Retainer in each City/State Wards, so people have to put retainers in other city if they want to sell a lot of things. Also, it would be greater If they Expand the Wards into 4 Blocks[Variable](Currently 2) but only allow people to use the stalls to summon Retainers. Well, this sounds good to me, but I want to hear what other people have in their mind :)

EDIT: and maybe extend The renting time into 2-3 Days albeit you have to pay more Gil. Summoning bell inside Wards would be nice too. All other things to repopulate other cities is by giving each of them advantage that is unique to each city. I.E LL has advantage over BSM,ARM ,CUL, FSH. Uld; WVR, GLD, ALC, MIN. Grid; TAN, CRP, BOT. I.E Items Tax 25% for selling in Non-Advantage Cities, and only 1% Tax in advantage Cities. This is only a concept that just popped in my mindXD and I think there are many flaws

Just why do we have retainer in the first place?
Especially, we have a Mog house and AH that works well at FFXI.

I still have no reason to go to Grid, I have all the marks I needed and for example Conjurer has shit guildskills lol. All you need is fast cast and maybe affinity, rest is trash. Archer get Multishot/Affinity rest is trash.

Fix the trash and might have some incentive.

^ not true if you play a melee job

While having them all linked to one MW is a good fix in the short term, if FFXIV ever recovers a decent subscription base a combined ward would be massively overcrowded unless changes to the ward structure (something like sharding used in other games) are made.

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Originally Posted by Doho

^ not true if you play a melee job

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Is Archer not a Melee?

Archer and Conjurer aren't the only ones in Gridania :(

Botanist/Carpenter/Lancer QQ.

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Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX

Archer and Conjurer aren't the only ones in Gridania :(

Botanist/Carpenter/Lancer QQ.

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I didn't know Botanist and Carpenter were Melee classes, can't wait to level them!

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Originally Posted by viion

I didn't know Botanist and Carpenter were Melee classes, can't wait to level them!

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Saws, Lances, and Hatchets are all melee weapons :O Although for some reason, saws and hatchets only work on wood.

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Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX

Saws, Lances, and Hatchets are all melee weapons :O Although for some reason, saws and hatchets only work on wood.

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Wooden wolf legs!!!!!! SAWWWWWWWW

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Originally Posted by Dreamer

While having them all linked to one MW is a good fix in the short term, if FFXIV ever recovers a decent subscription base a combined ward would be massively overcrowded unless changes to the ward structure (something like sharding used in other games) are made.

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I don't know about ya'll server... but we are already having massive overcrowding issues in Ul'dah on my server. There are so many retainers in the wards you can NOT put up any more, and have to go to the bell in the adventurer's guild to summon your retainer to grab anything off of them.

I would love for them to fix this. I don't mind if they link all of the wards together as long as they make them larger, it would be nice since they seem to be locking guild marks to the city the guild is in. One way or another they need to fix the wards, how do they expect us to sell stuff if you can't even get a retainer up in Ul'dah... and the other two cities are dead until they make these changes.

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Originally Posted by KaiKatzchen

I don't know about ya'll server... but we are already having massive overcrowding issues in Ul'dah on my server. There are so many retainers in the wards you can NOT put up any more, and have to go to the bell in the adventurer's guild to summon your retainer to grab anything off of them.

I would love for them to fix this. I don't mind if they link all of the wards together as long as they make them larger, it would be nice since they seem to be locking guild marks to the city the guild is in. One way or another they need to fix the wards, how do they expect us to sell stuff if you can't even get a retainer up in Ul'dah... and the other two cities are dead until they make these changes.

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I don't know how, why, what and if (wha...?) did Ul'dah become the city-state where everyone has to live. That's pretty sad, because the other city-states are pretty cool too, even more than Ul'dah!
My suggestion is to take those features in Ul'dah that let the players to live in that city instead of Limsa and Gridania, and put those features in the other cities.

Man, I don't like the fact that everybody has to live in Ul'dah. In fact, everybody has to live in Eorzea.

making instanaeous transport and guildmarks in certain places may lead to repopulation of the MW, people who are shopping may go to all three, if its fast and easy. It still probably needs another advantage though

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Originally Posted by Renshi

I don't know how, why, what and if (wha...?) did Ul'dah become the city-state where everyone has to live. That's pretty sad, because the other city-states are pretty cool too, even more than Ul'dah!
My suggestion is to take those features in Ul'dah that let the players to live in that city instead of Limsa and Gridania, and put those features in the other cities.

Man, I don't like the fact that everybody has to live in Ul'dah. In fact, everybody has to live in Eorzea.

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It's in between LL and Gridania, it has two of the most rewarding leves, and because everyone is there, it has the most retainers in its wards.

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Originally Posted by Renshi

I don't know how, why, what and if (wha...?) did Ul'dah become the city-state where everyone has to live. That's pretty sad, because the other city-states are pretty cool too, even more than Ul'dah!
My suggestion is to take those features in Ul'dah that let the players to live in that city instead of Limsa and Gridania, and put those features in the other cities.

Man, I don't like the fact that everybody has to live in Ul'dah. In fact, everybody has to live in Eorzea.

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Problem being is Ul'dah is a central point. The story quests lead you there. People will always gather there till they fix transportation methods, link the wards together, set up a world grouping system, etc etc. Spending 3 anima a day or walking 10-15mins to get to the "busy" town is a pain in the arse. And thats just getting to Ul'dah now you have to go back home.

The advantage for me to stay in Limsa Lominsa over Ul'dah is the use of the Master Forge. I cannot get that in any other city.

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Originally Posted by Shyd

Problem being is Ul'dah is a central point. The story quests lead you there. People will always gather there till they fix transportation methods, link the wards together, set up a world grouping system, etc etc. Spending 3 anima a day or walking 10-15mins to get to the "busy" town is a pain in the arse. And thats just getting to Ul'dah now you have to go back home.

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But the story quest also takes everyone to Gridania, so why isn't everyone congregating there too? :confused:

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Originally Posted by Sorel

But the story quest also takes everyone to Gridania, so why isn't everyone congregating there too? :confused:

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because it only takes you there for like 2 missions in the middle

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Originally Posted by Sorel

But the story quest also takes everyone to Gridania, so why isn't everyone congregating there too? :confused:

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It sends you back and fourth from Grid to Ul'dah. You end it and start in Ul'dah.

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Originally Posted by Renshi

I don't know how, why, what and if (wha...?) did Ul'dah become the city-state where everyone has to live. That's pretty sad, because the other city-states are pretty cool too, even more than Ul'dah!
My suggestion is to take those features in Ul'dah that let the players to live in that city instead of Limsa and Gridania, and put those features in the other cities.

Man, I don't like the fact that everybody has to live in Ul'dah. In fact, everybody has to live in Eorzea.

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Yeah I know what ya mean RenRen, I really like Grid and I wouldn't mind spending more time up there. I do leaves up there just because it isn't over crowded. Also, it seems I'll be spending a lot of time in Grid anyway if they are making the changes to the Guild marks seeing that I am a Lancer, Conj and Archer. lolol

Can't wait for them to make changes...

Scrap MW add Auction house. Problem fixed.

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Originally Posted by Shyd

Problem being is Ul'dah is a central point. The story quests lead you there. People will always gather there till they fix transportation methods, link the wards together, set up a world grouping system, etc etc. Spending 3 anima a day or walking 10-15mins to get to the "busy" town is a pain in the arse. And thats just getting to Ul'dah now you have to go back home.

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This is only the reason this problem started. The reason it stays like this is because it is in a seller's best interest to sell their goods where people normally go to buy goods. It's the same reason you don't find many random stores or shops on the side of the road by themselves.

But even if the wards are linked or a linked AH is put into place, the congestion will still be roughly the same. This is most likely because (and I'm making a guess here, I haven't played the game in months) people shout for groups, trade, and other things mostly in Ul'dah too. People tend to congregate because of these offers as well. If there were some global chat channel, or just a linking city chat channel, I would place my bets it would resolve a lot of the congestion.

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Originally Posted by Greencactaur

Scrap MW add Auction house. Problem fixed.

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Even if a auction house system is added, it wouldn't fix anything. If they aren't linked, same problem.

My two craft jobs are Weaver and Leatherworker. I want to go to Gridania for Mastershop, but why go there if there's no materials to buy? I'd have to waste anima or run for 30 minutes+ back to Ul'dah to get the materials and run back to Gridania for Mastershop. It's very inconvenient.

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

Even if a auction house system is added, it wouldn't fix anything. If they aren't linked, same problem.

My two craft jobs are Weaver and Leatherworker. I want to go to Gridania for Mastershop, but why go there if there's no materials to buy? I'd have to waste anima or run for 30 minutes+ back to Ul'dah to get the materials and run back to Gridania for Mastershop. It's very inconvenient.

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Well, I guess it's a battle of wills.

Will Gatherers start putting up appropriate materials in the guild home-cities because they move faster, are in higher demand, and they can charge more?

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Will Crafters burn up Anima to teleport to the city with the materials and back to their guild home-city to take advantage of the Master facilities and the Guild Marks they'll earn?

I'd hope people would put materials I could buy in the market wards in Gridania. I am lazy. I don't want to waste anima or run from Uldah to Gridania.

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

I'd hope people would put materials I could buy in the market wards in Gridania. I am lazy. I don't want to waste anima or run from Uldah to Gridania.

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But they won't put them there unless the crafters stay there and create a steady demand. So the question is how does the Development Team encourage that?

sigh...to rebalance population in city at this time we need a complete new area design..with lower camp near Grid, LL and UL...and higher camp near future Ishgard..

Again..a system copied from FFXI

A system that link LVexp and areas..

10-20-->Valkurm Dunes (for example)XD

With actual area design we have too different LV of mob in the same area and lv 10-20-30 camp are too near....

We need 4 city (3 lower and 1 higher) and, again, definited level for each area