The Mix and Match Club

This stems from the current thread started by someone who is upset that people prefer to look good over having awesome stats.

I have a proposal that I believe the Materia system can implement into the game.


Currently stats do not matter, but in the future they should after all the rebalanced and combat changes go into effect. When that happens obviously people will start taking a greater look at the stats of gear over the looks of gear. This will upset certain players. Especially people like me who prefer looks over stats. We don't intentionally gimp ourself into unplayable gear sets but we tend to mix and match gears that look good while giving us at least some beneficial stats, bu these stats may not be on par with the hardcore min-maxers.

The simple Idea is to allow us to chose fashion and stats together. The Materia system could easily allow this.

A User prefers the appearance of a certain item. Fashionable Coatee. But the stats given with this item do not reflect well with this players Class of Gladiator.

On the other hand the Defenders Haubergeon has the stats and appearance most people prefer for Gladiators, but this player is irked by and uncomfortable with its appearance for their own reasons. These reasons are theirs and we are not here to debate them.

To counter this the Materia system enables a player to take the stats from one armor The Haubergeon, and force them onto the other armor the Coatee.

The Player thus either fights through raising the AP on the Haubergeon and converting it themselves or finding someone who likes the Haub and continuously converts them over for profit to acquire the Materia for the Defenders Haubergeon.

Once they have the Materia they can use a specific catalyst to pound it into their Coatee or find a crafter to do it for them. Using special catalysts as a way to differenciate "Replacing" the stats on the gear or just "Boosting" the stats on the gear.

The Coatee can now reflects the same stats that the Haubergeon had, the old stats being over-written by the Materia being grafted on with its special stat converting catalyst.

The Secondary Slot Materia then gives only the option of boosting only some stats or skills instead of converting the original stats of the gear.

Would this satisfy most players? I do believe it would.

Sounds nice a nice idea. ^^
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Many MMO have separate equip screens for fashion accessories and whatnot, so you can have your main gear for stats and something else for looks.

Personally I don't care how my character looks as long as they have optimal stats, but given the choice I would probably take advantage of a system that allowed for both.

Added the comments about special catalysts so crafters can differentiate using the first slot for converting the equipments stats or just boosting its base stats.

I want to like that idea, but the example seems a bit extreme to me. Fighting side by side with melee fighters in coatees and canvas vests just would feel too off lol.

But I do agree that "materia" can lessen the burden and assist people who want to look a certain way and be effective. Say mr haubergeon, crafted from skilled metalworkers, this is a great pick up and go piece of armor. Solid stats, set in stone, not much else to do. But other options, say armor that drops from NMs and the such, could have weaker base stats, look completely different, and have many empty slots for your liking. Then you can cram the materia you want for stats you favor into a piece of armor that you enjoy looking at. It'd be a lot more work, but you'd also potentially end up with a stronger piece that houses your personal style and stats.

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Originally Posted by SHJcules

I want to like that idea, but the example seems a bit extreme to me. Fighting side by side with melee fighters in coatees and canvas vests just would feel too off lol.

But I do agree that "materia" can lessen the burden and assist people who want to look a certain way and be effective. Say mr haubergeon, crafted from skilled metalworkers, this is a great pick up and go piece of armor. Solid stats, set in stone, not much else to do. But other options, say armor that drops from NMs and the such, could have weaker base stats, look completely different, and have many empty slots for your liking. Then you can cram the materia you want for stats you favor into a piece of armor that you enjoy looking at. It'd be a lot more work, but you'd also potentially end up with a stronger piece that houses your personal style and stats.

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Personally I hope that NM and UU Gear can't be used for Materia Conversion only for having materia grafted to it. but thats a economic balance issue.

I like the idea that would provide the players with more choices.

I am in 2 minds about equipment fashion slots. Personally I like to see tanks in tin cans, mages in robes and coatees and DPS in whatever gear reflects their class. Fashion slots would encourage endgame tanks to play in Weathered gear and egg helms, and as funny as it might be to start with, it would quickly get annoying, and start to feel like everyone is just trying to look as silly as possible. I am not an RPer, but this would be a little too far out of immersion for my liking.

Just my 2c though, im sure Peregrine will swoop in and have a sheetstorm at me in 5 about how this opinion supports botting and also advertises my want to eat babies or something.

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Originally Posted by Vahzl

I am in 2 minds about equipment fashion slots. Personally I like to see tanks in tin cans, mages in robes and coatees and DPS in whatever gear reflects their class. Fashion slots would encourage endgame tanks to play in Weathered gear and egg helms, and as funny as it might be to start with, it would quickly get annoying, and start to feel like everyone is just trying to look as silly as possible. I am not an RPer, but this would be a little too far out of immersion for my liking.

Just my 2c though, im sure Peregrine will swoop in and have a sheetstorm at me in 5 about how this opinion supports botting and also advertises my want to eat babies or something.

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I think this comes down to your likes versus the person playing their character.

I personally don't like the look of Haubs and "tin can" gear even on classes that should be in it full time. I've always preferred the Leather bikini style of warriors like Red Sonya.

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Originally Posted by Cairdeas

Personally I hope that NM and UU Gear can't be used for Materia Conversion only for having materia grafted to it. but thats a economic balance issue.

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oh forsure. I'd rather the demand stay with crafted gear in as many ways as possible, and NM gear be something you hunt once and then it continues to grow with you. Thus crafters remain important and relevant, and keeps NM "hunting" in the realm that the demand for them doesn't turn it into NM "camping".

ITT: Guys wanting their girls looking kinky during battle.

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Originally Posted by Cairdeas

I've always preferred the Leather bikini style of warriors like Red Sonya.

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The only issue I see here is that with the proposed system, the quoted ideology, and implementation of auto-attack... we are getting dangerously close to "fap fap fap" during grind parties and I really don't want to have to worry about what the other guy is doing with his hands while he should be helping me kill stuff lol

Otherwise I think this is a great idea for the fashionistas of FFXIV.

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Originally Posted by Shikaree

ITT: Guys wanting their girls looking kinky during battle.

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IB4 only works if you actually get in before it is mentioned. You are 4 posts too late.

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Originally Posted by Vahzl

IB4 only works if you actually get in before it is mentioned. You are 4 posts too late.

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Uhh, I said ITT NOT IB4.

ITT= In this thread

Learn your acronyms.

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Originally Posted by Shikaree

ITT: Guys wanting their girls looking kinky during battle.

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LOL at me being called a guy.

This is Final Fantasy! People go running through arctic mountains in short shorts and tank tops and get in swords fights underwater. Little kids in fur skirts fight Behemoths and win! Take down bosses with Hair Clips and Megaphones!(?). All absurd and all totally FF. I get it though, if you are in a party and keep dying cuz you're under-equipped thats just reckless, but I say if you can take down a mob wearing hot pants and tube-top, then go for it! Besides, I dont care what anyone says, I look damn GOOD in my full on navy coatee and bottoms with a big-ass spear.

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Originally Posted by Cairdeas

LOL at me being called a guy.

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Lol you had to use the coatee as an example, I find them things horrid as hell for fanservice on girls! Worse than subligars.

lol, probably should've put this in that other thread...

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Lol you had to use the coatee as an example, I find them things horrid as hell for fanservice! Worse than subligars.

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Thats cuz you havent seen ME wearing them

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Originally Posted by Shikaree

Lol you had to use the coatee as an example, I find them things horrid as hell for fanservice on girls! Worse than subligars.

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I used two extremes. One shows a lot of skin, is made of cloth and has very magic and crafting based stats.
One shows no skin, is made of metal and plate and is very defense and damage dealing based stats.

It wasn't really personal preference. I myself wear Black Tarred Leather.

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Originally Posted by Akubikumo

Thats cuz you havent seen ME wearing them

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Playing a guy character? All fine and dandy with me <3

I just hate how they draped them low on the chest for females.

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Originally Posted by Shikaree

Playing a guy character? All fine and dandy with me <3

I just hate how they draped them low on the chest for females.

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Its not like the characters in FFXIV have the chest mass to make it matter. the Breast sizes in FFXIV are not that big, ranging between B and low C in cup size. While characters in past ff's like Tifa (Double F) and Lulu (F) had much bigger.

agree with you on that. not really a good look on the ladies. somehow both slutty and matronly

Nice post OP. I like your style. I would support such a system. As some other posters point out, other MMOs have had similar systems where your stat boosting gear is seperate from your fashion items. Ideally this would be the best system!

Meh, sounds sort of interesting. Personally I'd prefer more customisation of the overall armour set to the specific class/job. I'm sure it'd please the freedom-obsessives, though.

And of course, it would go a ways to explaining a way out of the fact that job-specific armour wouldn't work if jobs weren't locked to a class, and I know how you hate that.

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Originally Posted by Sephr

Meh, sounds sort of interesting. Personally I'd prefer more customisation of the overall armour set to the specific class/job. I'm sure it'd please the freedom-obsessives, though.

And of course, it would go a ways to explaining a way out of the fact that job-specific armour wouldn't work if jobs weren't locked to a class, and I know how you hate that.

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I have no problems with Job specific gear and no job specific gear doesn't require class locking.

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Originally Posted by Cairdeas

I have no problems with Job specific gear and no job specific gear doesn't require class locking.

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Sure sure, I won't take the thread off topic. Anyways, it would be kinda neat for the option on some equipment, though I think it'd be kinda weird to be able to transfer the stats of a plate set to a tunic. But then, magic etc etc.

It's a good idea.
I also like to see mages in mage gear and warriors in heavier gear for immersion purposes, but people should be able to wear what they like. So.. It would be cool to see materia give stats to make some fashionable gear similar to other gear, but perhaps not "the same as."
I hope that made sense. XD

I think the biggest benefit to this idea is the fact that it will make it so even if you have to have "This gear" because of its stats you don't have to have it for its looks. So we wont see everyone running around in Leaping boots and an Hauberk.

Putting a lil more thought into this, and staring at myself crafting, I realize I'd be 100% for this system if a simple restriction were put into place. That being; all equipment will be grouped into three families DoW/DoM/DoH. Swapping stats via materia (or something similar) is possible as long as the two pieces are in the same family.

This way the weirdest thing you would see is a GLA tanking in leather (and maybe some weird ARC looking gear), or a PUG dishing out pain in some Full Plate. That seems totally reasonable to me!

Also, I'd love it for crafting. I really dislike the smithing doublets, and I really prefer if I could metalwork optimally in the slimming cut off vests :cool:

I feel it's a fair compromise.

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Originally Posted by SHJcules

Putting a lil more thought into this, and staring at myself crafting, I realize I'd be 100% for this system if a simple restriction were put into place. That being; all equipment will be grouped into three families DoW/DoM/DoH. Swapping stats via materia (or something similar) is possible as long as the two pieces are in the same family.

This way the weirdest thing you would see is a GLA tanking in leather (and maybe some weird ARC looking gear), or a PUG dishing out pain in some Full Plate. That seems totally reasonable to me!

Also, I'd love it for crafting. I really dislike the smithing doublets, and I really prefer if I could metalwork optimally in the slimming cut off vests :cool:

I feel it's a fair compromise.

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I think that rule is too strict. As many items are never classified as only one of those such groups.

I support this thread. I'm quite partial to thighboots and vambraces, so this would help me keep at least those.

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I think that rule is too strict.

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Agreed! No more uniforms! Wear what you like!

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Originally Posted by Duelle

I support this thread. I'm quite partial to thighboots and vambraces, so this would help me keep at least those.

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Thanks, I like the vambraces too. they looks rather cute.