It's a week after 2.1

I'm already out of content.
4 rehashed fights and a single raid is not enough.

Are you full i90 with BiS on every available job and all achievements compeleted? Thennotoutofcontent. Justoutofcontentyoufeellikedoing.

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Originally Posted by WellGramarye

Are you full i90 with BiS on every available job and all achievements compeleted? Thennotoutofcontent. Justoutofcontentyoufeellikedoing.

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Content I'm prevented from doing, not don't feel like doing. I have every relic, every piece of darklight in the game, if I could do the same with i80/i90 I would happily. I cannot.
Also - Grinding gear isn't content, it's just grinding, content is the raids/events themselves, not the obtaining of gear.

That's all an MMO is after you finish the story though :P

Also you could cap PVP and get i90 there :D


*5 Rehashed fights. You forgot King Mog :)

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Originally Posted by Esmian

inb4 someone comes in and says that grinding gil for FC house is content.

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Was about to edit and add this too :(

inb4 someone comes in and says that grinding gil for FC house is content.

get master fighter crafter gatherer all 50 then say out of content

still there is lots to do for me

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Originally Posted by Crimson-Falcon

get master fighter crafter gatherer all 50 then say out of content

still there is lots to do for me

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Check their profile, they have all 50s ;p

Could always help out others to win their fights and talk to friends. People play MMO's differently I guess.

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Originally Posted by EmSix

Content I'm prevented from doing, not don't feel like doing. I have every relic, every piece of darklight in the game, if I could do the same with i80/i90 I would happily. I cannot.
Also - Grinding gear isn't content, it's just grinding, content is the raids/events themselves, not the obtaining of gear.

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You're out of your mind if you think any developer is going to create fresh content with no grind limitations as fast as players can play through it. If you strip away low drop rates, grinding exp/currency/equipment, time lockouts, and all other forms of limitations that MMOs use to keep players playing, they aren't really that much different than that of other genres. The only type of game that could possibly keep non-grinding content coming as quickly as players could play it is one with randomly generated levels and events, but that type of game isn't necessarily for everyone.

Come to try pvp, with your fancy full90 pve gear, then tell us you exhausted content while pwned over and over , praying to gear up sooner or later :)

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Originally Posted by Susanoh

You're out of your mind if you think any developer is going to create fresh content with no grind limitations as fast as players can play through it. If you strip away low drop rates, grinding exp/currency/equipment, time lockouts, and all other forms of limitations that MMOs use to keep players playing, they aren't really that much different than that of other genres. The only type of game that could possibly keep non-grinding content coming as quickly as players could play it is one with randomly generated levels and events, but that type of game isn't necessarily for everyone.

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I didn't make this thread to complain about lockouts, that was just in defence of the "Well you can grind gear" argument, which I cannot, since my progression is locked. I'm concerned about the content I have to do, not my gear progression.

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Originally Posted by EmSix

Grinding gear isn't content, it's just grinding, content is the raids/events themselves, not the obtaining of gear.

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What? Next your gona tell me the cheese isn't the bread its the sandwich!

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Originally Posted by Teon

Come to try pvp, with your fancy full90 pve gear, then tell us you exhausted content while pwned over and over , praying to gear up sooner or later :)

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MMO PvP is cancer.

Especially MMO PvP that allows 30 second CC's and 3 instant-cast rezzes.

although i havent finished coil, i do agree if compared to WoW end game raid, FF doesnt have much end game raid content... only 4 bosses? and 3 same bosses that you have beaten twice now
FF should have a lot content, they have a lot of material to do this.. FF1-FFX alone is enough material

i wish they make a raid like the black temple, karazhan or w/e most of wow raid are interesting anyway

One week after 2.1 and this game still sucks.

We were all thinking it, someone had to say it.

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Originally Posted by Acaelus

One week after 2.1 and this game still sucks.

We the minority thinking it, someone had to say it.

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fix'ed for you

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Originally Posted by Eissels

MMO PvP is cancer.

Especially MMO PvP that allows 30 second CC's and 3 instant-cast rezzes.

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I have no problem admitting I am not good at pvp. Judging by what you have said, your tried it at some point in a MMO and it wasn't for you. As far as I can tell all teams are privy to these abilities, and have the freedom to form a team that's smarter, quicker and more talented at CC'ing and coordinating? Or do people just have a real hard time accepting that it takes a degree of cunning and cooperation to accomplish victory? 6 seconds, 30 seconds or a 5 min CC, doesn't matter If you know how to do it better. Capitalize on each others strengths and protect weaknesses.

Too much content! I am running around panicking because it at this rate I won't even be able to finish 2.1 by the time 2.2 is out!

Yeah just go pvp that is beein infested with filthy exploiters and talk about content after.

You did absolutely everything from 2.1, included Tribes at maximum rank ?

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Originally Posted by Acaelus

One week after 2.1 and this game still sucks.

We were all thinking it, someone had to say it.

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Please strictly speak for yourself please.
I like this game and I think it's awesome.

Been enjoying it since 2.1 and still enjoying it!

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Originally Posted by nostrade

although i havent finished coil, i do agree if compared to WoW end game raid, FF doesnt have much end game raid content... only 4 bosses? and 3 same bosses that you have beaten twice now
FF should have a lot content, they have a lot of material to do this.. FF1-FFX alone is enough material

i wish they make a raid like the black temple, karazhan or w/e most of wow raid are interesting anyway

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Stop comparing everything to WoW. World of Warcraft is older, years of content and you're not taking in consideration how it were when it started. FF14 aren't a big mix of all Final Fantasies in one, it's an individual game with elements common to the series and come cameos. As the game get expansion patches and then a proper expansion, then we will have more and more content. Just like every single game ever.

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Originally Posted by Orryo

I have no problem admitting I am not good at pvp. Judging by what you have said, your tried it at some point in a MMO and were not good either. Like many, your ego got in the way and you can not admit there are people better at it. As far as I can tell all teams are privy to these abilities, and have the freedom to form a team that's smarter, quicker and more talented at CC'ing and coordinating? Or do people just have a real hard time accepting that it takes a degree of cunning and cooperation to accomplish victory? 6 seconds, 30 seconds or a 5 min CC, doesn't matter If you know how to do it better. Capitalize on each others strengths and protect weaknesses.

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No, MMO PVP is scoffed at by nearly progamers of every genre. It is generally regarded as the joke of the industry.

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Originally Posted by nitram

Please strictly speak for yourself please.
I like this game and I think it\\'s awesome.

Been enjoying it since 2.1 and still enjoying it!

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Sorry can't edit on mobile. Since v.1!!!

Too much content! I am running around panicking because it at this rate I won't even be able to finish 2.1 by the time 2.2 is out!

To prepare yourself for WoWs end game material several months after WoW was released you had to run anywhere from 10 to 100's of runs in the same dungeons, over and over and over, to get the gear you needed to spend hours, and hours, clearing trash in 1 raid, day after day after day, week after week, gearing up your guild so you could keep spending more hours in the same raid killing the trash again, and again and again, so you could fight the same boss again and again and again, for months. The icing on the cake was, you hope you had at least 40 people online in your guild. If people didn't log on, you had to wait minutes and minutes and minutes maybe even hours to form the raid to spend the hours and hours clearing that excess of endgame. Wait no, it wasn't end game, it was simply monotony. Rome wasn't built in a day.

like everything this game has pro's and con's. I have made the choice to play this over other games because i love final fantasy and i trust that this game will get better content. The PvP has, in my opinion, been done very poorly, but there will always be those that will take offence to that opinion, so sorry. I see people complaining about no content, because they complete everything extremely fast, and "no life" it. But just because you reach the end of something does not mean that it is over. Enjoy what you have accomplished, use your ability to help others, just use it for the sake of using it and try mixing it up a little bit. Honestly, what is the rush?

Everything job maxed
Full ilvl90 on 2 classes, mix of 80/70 on the other.
Crafter full hq.
Clerared all the contents.
160 morale on brd..

yeah is going to be boring until 2.2 for me :\

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Originally Posted by Orryo

I have no problem admitting I am not good at pvp. Judging by what you have said, your tried it at some point in a MMO and it wasn't for you. As far as I can tell all teams are privy to these abilities, and have the freedom to form a team that's smarter, quicker and more talented at CC'ing and coordinating? Or do people just have a real hard time accepting that it takes a degree of cunning and cooperation to accomplish victory? 6 seconds, 30 seconds or a 5 min CC, doesn't matter If you know how to do it better. Capitalize on each others strengths and protect weaknesses.

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Actually, I PvP a lot across many different types. MMOs, MobA's, FPS's, etc. I enjoy PvP a lot. It's fun, it's dynamic, and it's a good way to see how well you can cut your teeth against other people.

But MMO PvP is almost always frustrating and poorly thought out because it's always designed as an after thought. Classes have heaps of abilities, dedicated healers are a frustrating wrench that can single-handedly dictate the entire style of a PvP system, and CC is generally overdone.

Sure, you can say that if all classes had a five minute CC, it'd be balanced, because it's whoever hits their button faster wins, but it's a horrible balance. Whoever hit the button first would win, no contest, on a five-minute CC. Sleep is far from the only problem in this game, though. Playing whack-a-mole with WAR-SCH-SMN-SMN is an excersize in futility that I've not seen matched in any other system to date.

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Originally Posted by Eissels

MMO PvP is cancer.

Especially MMO PvP that allows 30 second CC's and 3 instant-cast rezzes.

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You have prob just never played a mmorpg with decent pvp, but yea using ff xiv as an example, I could see why you hate it.

There is pvp focused mmorpgs you know, with good pvp in them.

But yes, as a pretty serious pvp player I cant take pvp in this game seriously, though I didnt buy this game for the pvp anyway - who would?

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Originally Posted by Edenholt

Stop comparing everything to WoW. World of Warcraft is older, years of content and you're not taking in consideration how it were when it started. FF14 aren't a big mix of all Final Fantasies in one, it's an individual game with elements common to the series and come cameos. As the game get expansion patches and then a proper expansion, then we will have more and more content. Just like every single game ever.

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why not? i know WoW is old, but thats why SE can learn from them, make atleast 2 raid content
wow is old and there is no real mmo back then (only EQ and UO?), therefore no example to follow, they set new era
this is 2013 lot of mmo around, why do SE have to start this game like there is no raiding mmo around?

the argument of "wow is old" is useless, open your eyes this is 2013 lot of mmo around, lot of example around

I don't understand how people get to the end so quickly - or why they'd want to.

The pride at achieving everything must be tempered by the fact that you've played yourself out of the game.

Deepest respect to the OP, but go play something else until 2.2.

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Originally Posted by EmSix

I'm already out of content.
4 rehashed fights and a single raid is not enough.

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Did you finish AALL the beastmen tribe lines? if not.not out of content.Selectively doing some content and selectively not doing some content,is NOT being out of content.YOU are CHOOSING to not do content.and for people like you...you will never be happy no matter what.go to another mmo or something.

And merry xmas ^^

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Originally Posted by Darkshneider

Did you finish AALL the beastmen tribe lines? if not.not out of content.Selectively doing some content and selectively not doing some content,is NOT being out of content.YOU are CHOOSING to not do content.and for people like you...you will never be happy no matter what.go to another mmo or something.

And merry xmas ^^

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Since when are fetch quests considered content? Really.

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Originally Posted by nostrade

why not? i know WoW is old, but thats why SE can learn from them, make atleast 2 raid content
wow is old and there is no real mmo back then (only EQ and UO?), therefore no example to follow, they set new era
this is 2013 lot of mmo around, why do SE have to start this game like there is no raiding mmo around?

the argument of "wow is old" is useless, open your eyes this is 2013 lot of mmo around, lot of example around

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EQ had tons of raid content back then, but it hasd also been out for a few years.

Something to remember, when WOW launched, it had less content (end game and dungeon wise) than ARR did at launch. SO the whole "learn form wow" is moot

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Originally Posted by EmSix

Since when are fetch quests considered content? Really.

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Do you not realise how ridiculous and irrational you sound?

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Originally Posted by EmSix

Since when are fetch quests considered content? Really.

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you just proved my point.You are not CHOOSING to count them as content.Btw your missing out,they are damn fun and the cs'es hilarious,the mounts are kewl too.

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Originally Posted by Arkh

Everything job maxed
Full ilvl90 on 2 classes, mix of 80/70 on the other.
Crafter full hq.
Clerared all the contents.
160 morale on brd..

yeah is going to be boring until 2.2 for me :\

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Have you done all the gather 10000 HQ item achievements? That's A LOT of content for you to partake in there.

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Originally Posted by EmSix

Since when are fetch quests considered content? Really.

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Those aren't fetch quests. Fetch quests are when you have to get an item and take it to a specific NPC to progress the storyline. There's only one, maybe two cases of that happening in the Beast Tribe quests. Everything else is "kill x monster" or "perform x task."

They might not be overwhelmingly interesting, but don't use a specific term to describe something when it doesn't fit. And, fetch quests have counted as content since it gave you something to do. That's content. Hell, it even rewards you for doing it with Philosophy, minions and mounts, to name the most important things. Sorry it doesn't interest you, but I see a LOT of people running around Southern Thanalan working on their Daily Quests and trying to move forward with those storylines, so clearly it interests other people.

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Originally Posted by Darkshneider

you just proved my point.You are not CHOOSING to count them as content.Btw your missing out,they are damn fun and the cs'es hilarious,the mounts are kewl too.

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It isn't content though, new content is new experiences. I've been doing fetch quests since the start of ARR, just because they're repeatable and offer reputation (which doesn't really offer any worthwhile rewards but crafting materials) it's new content?

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Originally Posted by FMElan

Those aren't fetch quests. Fetch quests are when you have to get an item and take it to a specific NPC to progress the storyline. There's only one, maybe two cases of that happening in the Beast Tribe quests. Everything else is "kill x monster" or "perform x task."

They might not be overwhelmingly interesting, but don't use a specific term to describe something when it doesn't fit. And, fetch quests have counted as content since it gave you something to do. That's content. Hell, it even rewards you for doing it with Philosophy, minions and mounts, to name the most important things. Sorry it doesn't interest you, but I see a LOT of people running around Southern Thanalan working on their Daily Quests and trying to move forward with those storylines, so clearly it interests other people.

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That's a fetch quest. Go here do X and return. Fetch Quest. Kill, pickup, whatever. It's all bones with no meat to it.

You are so irrational.it is content even if you wont admit it.im done w you.not worth the headache.