Changes to Allagan healing gear

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Allagan Circlet of Healing
Before: MND+18, VIT+18, Determination+15, PIE+11
After: MND+18, VIT+18, PIE+16, Critical Hit Rate+15

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Allagan Breeches of Healing
Before: VIT+29, MND+29, PIE+26, Critical Hit Rate+24
After: VIT+29, MND+29, Spell Speed+34, PIE+18

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http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...7af43f3c43828a

For SCH at least, Head piece can now be considered BiS since it has higher PIE and CRIT. The Myth pants are mandatory.

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http://i.imgur.com/Q0M9HW5.png

This kinda sucks because of how iconic SCH headpiece is.

wow lame, i just passed on the breaches today and now it gets buffed...

don't care, i'm still going to use my mortarboard

Well WHMs needed those Allagan pants so they can stop looking nekkid when wearing Myth pants + Allagan tunic. :D As for the hat, I liked the sch hat and if i have left over myths after I'm done gearing sch, I'll buy the myth hat anyway for vanity slots. :D

TBH I don't like the sch gear... specifically the hideous pants and shoes.

SO I'm happy with the allagan buffs ^^

I'm not so happy with it personally. Det boosts healing throughput and efficiency, spell speed boosts healing throughput at the expense of efficiency. Whilst whm doesn't gain the same benefit out of crit as sch, I still prefer it to spell speed frankly. This gives me the option of sticking with looking respectable, or going back to the shameful Allag chest/af2 legs combination that I was so glad to be rid off.

Yay :(

I'm not happy with the change to the headgear. I'm glad it's different for SCH since now they have an option for a change in stats, but as a WHM, I preferred the old stats. I would sooner see the change be made to SCH headgear than allagan. As for the pants... if it has spellspeed then I don't care about it.

I was so looking forward to the change for the allegan head piece. Though rumours say they're going back to the old stats.

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Originally Posted by ArniQQ

I was so looking forward to the change for the allegan head piece. Though rumours say they're going back to the old stats.

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It's not a rumour, its already written in the japanese patch notes and was said on the stream which was when the server went down for maintenance.

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Originally Posted by Amaret

It's not a rumour, its already written in the japanese patch notes and was said on the stream which was when the server went down for maintenance.

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So wait... The allagan head piece is no longer BiS for SCH again?

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Originally Posted by SulwynCaliope

So wait... The allagan head piece is no longer BiS for SCH again?

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It will have the exact same stats as the argute mortarboard so yes and no. You really don't have a choice.

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Originally Posted by OmegaFlare

It will have the exact same stats as the argute mortarboard so yes and no. You really don't have a choice.

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Yea I should've phrased my question better. Sigh... This sucks. =_= I was really looking forward to that extra crit. Oh well... I'll live. :p

Hopefully the change they brought to the headpiece will instead be given to the Argute hat instead.

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Originally Posted by DKage

Hopefully the change they brought to the headpiece will instead be given to the Argute hat instead.

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I am praying that happens. The Myth hat is so cute and really makes us stand out :P

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Originally Posted by SulwynCaliope

Yea I should've phrased my question better. Sigh... This sucks. =_= I was really looking forward to that extra crit. Oh well... I'll live. :p

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You do know the vanya hat melded has more crit than those stats, right? In fact, even if they didn't cancel it, vanya hat would still be better. Mine is fully melded with three Materia IV's and two Materia III's.

Stats stack up to -

MND+12 Vit+12 PIE+11 Crit+16 DET+11 SPS+15

The only thing valuable you lose out on is vitality, but astral ring/bracelet make up for it anyway.

From what I've heard, patch 2.2 will have a vanity system. A.K.A you can wear this allagan hat as your stats and use board as your vanity piece. You'll just need to farm both pieces. z_z Though I like how the same folks who complained about scholars looking like Harry Potter, now wish to keep the look. <333

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Originally Posted by Ferocious

You do know the vanya hat melded has more crit than those stats, right? In fact, even if they didn't cancel it, vanya hat would still be better. Mine is fully melded with three Materia IV's and two Materia III's.

Stats stack up to -

MND+12 Vit+12 PIE+11 Crit+16 DET+11 SPS+15

The only thing valuable you lose out on is vitality, but astral ring/bracelet make up for it anyway.

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Except the loss of MND when choosing Vanya over anything i90 makes it subpar even with the loss in crit.

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Originally Posted by PetiteMalFleur

Except the loss of MND when choosing Vanya over anything i90 makes it subpar even with the loss in crit.

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That's the whole point of critical hit builds. Losing 6 mind is not a big deal at all especially when you have 11 determination points making up for it.

All expert SCHs I know use it and it was named BiS by many sources. If you're talking non-crit build, thats another story.

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Originally Posted by Ferocious

That's the whole point of critical hit builds. Losing 6 mind is not a big deal at all especially when you have 11 determination points making up for it.

All expert SCHs I know use it and it was named BiS by many sources. If you're talking non-crit build, thats another story.

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11 points of DET is maybe equal to 2 points mind. It's optimal to have high crit in the i90 gear but losing 6 points mind can't be made up for in secondary stats.

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Originally Posted by Ferocious

That's the whole point of critical hit builds. Losing 6 mind is not a big deal at all especially when you have 11 determination points making up for it.

All expert SCHs I know use it and it was named BiS by many sources. If you're talking non-crit build, thats another story.

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Nope, because the Argute Mortarboard gives 15 determination. So you're trading 6 mind, 6 vitality and 4 determination for 16 crit, which is about 1% crit, and 15 spell speed, which is about 0.01 second off the GCD.

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Originally Posted by Kresciel

Nope, because the Argute Mortarboard gives 15 determination. So you're trading 6 mind, 6 vitality and 4 determination for 16 crit, which is about 1% crit, and 15 spell speed, which is about 0.01 second off the GCD.

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That 1% crit chance can save a tank's life. Can 6 mind save anyone's life? I don't think so. That's what SCH is about. We rely on shielding and critical hits give double the bonus on shields. On the other hand, WHM is straight up about "big numbers" in heals so mind stat comes first for them. There's a reason why SCHs are looked at as tank healers. It's all because of shielding and critical hits compliment that more than anything else.

Also don't forget, these critical chances also apply to your pet. When you're basically managing two healers at once, crit build is more rewarding. You can even try both an ilvl90 piece and vanya hat melded. Cast healing spells on yourself and the difference isn't that noticeable at all in non-crit hits.

are you sure the allagan headpiece is staying the same? I checked the lodestone and it's changed to crit o.o

http://i.imgur.com/Q0M9HW5.png
http://jp.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...a82f8b92ca6f12
*Google translations - can be completely inaccurate.

You can interpret this in one of two ways:
- There was a bug in the new item that wasn't showing the proper effects, so they're reverting to the old stats until there's a proper fix.

- The new stats were OP and they'll need more time for more balanced stats.

I don't believe the old Allagan items will stay the same. They made a big point about changing these stats and the Allagan items for other classes will be changed. So it would make no sense to "change their mind" on just the healer ones.