Sacred Prism please can us white mages have this ability back

I miss this ability to be able to cast a certain spell on all party members especially for when casting stoneskin. This would make casting stoneskin on the party so much easier and quicker and was a great ability back in 1.0. Please SE give us this ability back.

i dont even wanna think how much hate a sacred prism regen would do

This is one of the skills I wish WHM would get back. The class itself has relatively poor mana control compared to scholar and has a few useless skills, cureIII and medica. WHM I hope in the future will get a buff because right now it just lacks a true purpose. SCH just do everything better, mitigate, boost party members defense or attack speed, plus if selene was a little smarter could even silence. Really the only potential WHM even remotely has is the ability to heal for more than SCH, but overall taking into account SCH heal barriers even the debate of who heals for more is debateable. WHM really needs something.

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Originally Posted by DaiLyght

i dont even wanna think how much hate a sacred prism regen would do

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Sacred Prism Regen + Swiftcast Medica II! WHMs will show those tanks who is really supposed to tank Titan D:

I love that skill. Sacred regen n ss used so often in raids n ifrit extreme back then. Love the regen animation. Still have clips of it haha.

That sounds.. A little too much lol

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Originally Posted by Nanaya

Could just be an ability that only works when you do not have any threat. People only really need it outside of battle, when you're prebuffing before a boss. Scholar sure as hell won't be buffing if you've got a White Mage, so it's the sole White Mage applying 8 Stoneskins and a Protect.

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If it could only be used out of combat, that would be nice to have. Gotta feel sorry for those White Mage Stoneskin slaves..

Could just be an ability that only works when you do not have any threat. People only really need it outside of battle, when you're prebuffing before a boss. Scholar sure as hell won't be buffing if you've got a White Mage, so it's the sole White Mage applying 8 Stoneskins and a Protect.

White Mage seems so underwhelming compared to Scholar. They just... refill bars. Scholar brings much more to the group, compared to how Summoner is also more versatile and a better caster than Black Mages.

My opinion of course.

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Originally Posted by WiseWolfHolo

This is one of the skills I wish WHM would get back. The class itself has relatively poor mana control compared to scholar and has a few useless skills, cureIII and medica.

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Woah... I agree that Cure III is never used, but Medica?

I don't care if it only works on Stoneskin.. I just want it back. Welcome to the party~~ Stoneskin,Stoneskin,Stoneskin,Stoneskin,Stoneskin,Stoneskin,Stoneskin,Stoneskin

and while we're at it.. Raise.. for the love of pete.. can I have 1.0 Lv.50 Raise back?

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Originally Posted by WiseWolfHolo

This is one of the skills I wish WHM would get back. The class itself has relatively poor mana control compared to scholar and has a few useless skills, cureIII and medica. WHM I hope in the future will get a buff because right now it just lacks a true purpose. SCH just do everything better, mitigate, boost party members defense or attack speed, plus if selene was a little smarter could even silence. Really the only potential WHM even remotely has is the ability to heal for more than SCH, but overall taking into account SCH heal barriers even the debate of who heals for more is debateable. WHM really needs something.

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Wait what? Medica is not useless -.-

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Originally Posted by DaiLyght

i dont even wanna think how much hate a sacred prism regen would do

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That hurts my HP bar just thinking about it...

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Originally Posted by Kyomih

-boop-

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Only fight a whm chooses medica over medica 2 is titan because of the hate pull. Yeah medica Is used but not as much let's say every skill a SCH has. As a SCH IM SPAMMING AND USING EVERY SKILL I HAVE. Medica can use re-working medica 2 is so much better. Cure 3 you only use when its free. WHM need re-looked at end game compared to SCH they lack in every aspect. You know how people are crying about melee dps having their "place" in coil? Soon whm will most end game raiders are doing double SCH now. Not only to silence t2 but on t5 their lustrate on the healing debuff is beyond benediction. Now im not saying ;_; SCH SO GOOD WHM SUCK. No, I stand up for my fellow healers. I wish they had this AOE ability back in a way they could mix and match it with some skill (not all to be OP) and they need to look at shroud, 2 minute cool down is a joke while SCH have an unlimited pool of mana with around 4.3-4.6k+ mana in end game fights currently. I wanted to make a thread and cry on forums for my WHMs maybe to give them publicity like DRGs but I am rather lazy. :<

sacred + cure III :D
stack healing aoe XD
hate coming!!!! O.O

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Originally Posted by AunaYuuki

As a SCH IM SPAMMING AND USING EVERY SKILL I HAVE.

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Well, obviously. As a SCH, you only have a small number of abilities relevant to healing: Physick, Adlo, Succor, Leeches, Lustrate, Aetherflow, and Resurrection. Of course you're gonna be using all of them and frequently (except Resurrection, hopefully).

WHMs are built off of a whole class dedicated to healing, so they have a LOT more abilities relevant to how they do their job (a grand total of about 15 abilities, if you want a number). Naturally, some of those abilities are going to be more niche than others (Cure III and Medica being good examples). That doesn't make them useless and it doesn't make them worse, it just makes them different.

You may say SCH is so good and WHM sucks, but I greatly enjoy WHM while having no interest in SCH.

While I think the ability would be an awesome addition to the WHM arsenal regardless, aggro is not the reason to use Medica over Medica II. Medica is useful when the Medica II HoT is already rolling on targets.

Useful Examples:
Enrage Timers (T2, T4)
Titan Stomps (Ever solo heal the last phase because your co-healer ate a bomb/weight/stupid to the face?)
Garuda During Adds (Presuming MII is already rolling)

While it certainly isn't prioritized over Medica II if Medica II's HoT isn't up already, it certainly has its uses, just like Cure III. Situational != Useless.

Pretty sure they said sacred prism is coming back as a PvP ability.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

Pretty sure they said sacred prism is coming back as a PvP ability.

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Yup. I remember hearing this as well. Hang tight OP, 4 more days!

http://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/p....png?64f1e93v1

It's a PvP skill. Look at current last row, and the right hand side. Sacred Prism.

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Originally Posted by Noroi_Kisaragi

Yup. I remember hearing this as well. Hang tight OP, 4 more days!

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I assume the Pvp abilities are only usable in a Pvp environment.

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Originally Posted by Nahara

Well, obviously. As a SCH, you only have a small number of abilities relevant to healing: Physick, Adlo, Succor, Leeches, Lustrate, Aetherflow, and Resurrection. Of course you're gonna be using all of them and frequently (except Resurrection, hopefully).

WHMs are built off of a whole class dedicated to healing, so they have a LOT more abilities relevant to how they do their job (a grand total of about 15 abilities, if you want a number). Naturally, some of those abilities are going to be more niche than others (Cure III and Medica being good examples). That doesn't make them useless and it doesn't make them worse, it just makes them different.

You may say SCH is so good and WHM sucks, but I greatly enjoy WHM while having no interest in SCH.

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Rouse, Sacred Soil, Embrace?

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Originally Posted by Bigpurpleharness

Rouse, Sacred Soil, Embrace?

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Fey Illumination, Whispering Dawn?

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Originally Posted by AunaYuuki

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Still doesn't warrant a "Medica is useless". If you say Medica is not used as often in current end game content, ok sure. I personally prefer to use Medica in Coil unless shit hits the fan or during Enrage in T4 or for Fireballs in T5. Of course Medica II is much better - you are comparing a freaking lvl 10 with a lvl 50 skill.
After all noone gets born a lvl 50 with Medica II instantly..

But we digress also please let's not turn this into another SCH vs WHM thread?

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Originally Posted by Noroi_Kisaragi

Yup. I remember hearing this as well. Hang tight OP, 4 more days!

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:( Well that just sucks then because I'm not interested in the PvP side of the game, seems like its just going to be a wasted ability if only just for PvP. It would be better suited in PvE instead where it would be actually used by the healers throughout a fight for example pre battle and during a primal fight before/after the primal uses its special move.

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Originally Posted by Bigpurpleharness

Rouse, Sacred Soil, Embrace?

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Although not healing skills, let's not forget the delicious DoTs :3

I wanna drop by and say I believe the WHM should get some props, even the move back for how frustrating it is to level a WHM (if you're going the non-storyline route as an alt) and they should get something for it. How someone can spam stone, stone II, Aero and Aero II over and over again (considering its only Stone and Aero for a looooooooong time) the WHM's need something to give them the need to level to 50. I had to level my WHm 1 to 15 for my SCH and it was the worst time of my life playing a character. So boring, and really useless on it's own. Those are my thoughts but props to you WHM's! Hopefully this thread gets seen and considered!

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Originally Posted by AunaYuuki

Only fight a whm chooses medica over medica 2 is titan because of the hate pull.
Medica can use re-working medica 2 is so much better.
Cure 3 you only use when its free.

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I'd like to chime in here to state that your description of a WHM's healing method far varies from my own. There are many more instances where one should use Medica over Medica II. In your case, I would say that there are many instances where you're overhealing, of which is something I don't practice, personally.

Also, Cure III is never a free ability. You gain the proc of "Overcure" which guarantees that ability to heal crit, but it still costs MP. And as situational as Cure III is, there are many instances where an Overcure proc + Cure III is useful, just as a small example would be the Garuda fight where she's doing Wicked Wheel and there are a handful of melees all getting the business, toss an Overcured Cure III over and they're all happy again. Allows for one to keep their distance and not risk a friction being tossed on the rest of the ranged. (Granted this is just an example and I am aware that the damage is minimal, but as I said, it's an example.) In any case, Cure III is far from a useless skill however situational it is.

But I will agree that SCH is a much busier class than WHM, especially for those who manually control their pet abilities such as myself (which I would hope is the case with a majority of SCH healers.)

Granted, I miss Sacred Prism as an ability in our arsenal, but we've managed thus far without it. I don't see that it's an issue. Though, I have seen it in the PvP ability list in that one screenshot with the Warrior in it. I'm interested to see what applications it will have in PvP if the devs have managed to change it or something along those lines.

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Originally Posted by DaiLyght

i dont even wanna think how much hate a sacred prism regen would do

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Less than a Medica II?

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Originally Posted by Ryans

I assume the Pvp abilities are only usable in a Pvp environment.

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Until they raise the level cap and "borrow" them for PvE.

Personally, I think it'd make white mages a bit too OP. Would make stone skin too good, and regen a bit too powerful. Hell, don't even get me started with benediction.

After checking with the battle team, I'm afraid there are currently no plans to implement this ability back into the game.

Would it be possible to make Stoneskin an AoE when not in combat?

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Originally Posted by Hvinire

After checking with the battle team, I'm afraid there are currently no plans to implement this ability back into the game.

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Can we have Blissful Mind back? Something to aid in MP regeneration so we can be on-par with Scholars?