I'm at the point in twintania where replacing my crafted gear with 90 is lowering my health A LOT, soon I'll be full 90 so I'll have to depend on food for Vit. I'd like something that will give me a lot of health!
I've been searching for the consumable that gives the most points or raises your vitality the most. The prices, rarity, and or ease of obtaining is not an issue, but if it stresses one of those, please tell me.
Preferably looking for something that can be bought on market, hopefully in stacks of 99.
I've asked around my server but everyone is a little uneducated with all the food that is obtainable. I have tried looking it up getting no results, including on the forums via search. Hopefully one of you can respond kindly with an answer!
Edit: if need be, it can be tank food, anything that gives lots of vit.
In the lead
-pineapple juice (15points)
-mulled tea (12points)
-la noscean toast (11points)
What is The Best Vitality Food ?
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12-02-2013, 04:51 AMGalaxyGirlWhat is The Best Vitality Food ?
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12-02-2013, 04:55 AMWobi
I presume you want more VIT for stuff like Titan and the harder content in the game. Pineapple juice would be your best bet as a healer, also note that HQ items have higher stat caps. In the case of pineapple juice it is a maximum of +3% VIT (19 cap). This also comes with spell speed and a piety boost as well.
However that juice is pricy but Mulled tea is a cheaper alternative if need be :) -
12-02-2013, 04:58 AMGalaxyGirl
Actually for twintania, thank you for the suggestion. I currently use mulled tea which is super expensive :( so I am trying to find something more catered to vit. I'll check pineapple juice.
If any of you have any more suggestions please keep posting, I'll be your lab rat!'
Edit: DARNNN, I didn't see what you said about it being pricy!!!!! :( I'll just see how I can make it haha... -
12-02-2013, 05:01 AMAmyas
Walnut bread is what tanks use right? 4% vit parry and accuracy.
ah 3 max. I was thinking of La Noscean toast which is 3% 11 point max. Though I guess the pineapple juice that Wobi suggested is your best bet.Quote:
Originally Posted by GalaxyGirl
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12-02-2013, 05:02 AMGalaxyGirlDo you know how many points walnut bread puts into vit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Amyas
Thanks for responding, seems like a good choice if it's cheaper than mulled tea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amyas
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12-02-2013, 05:17 AMGalaxyGirl
Bump in hopes ffxiv chef stumbles upon this and has a answer that is most pleasing!
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12-02-2013, 05:18 AMjabbywocks
I've been using antelope steak for the 4% vit and 8% skill speed, but I'm also looking for better foods.
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12-02-2013, 05:19 AMJohnist
Sauted Coeurl (requires Cooking Sherry (Philo Item)). HQ gives I think Max 15.
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12-02-2013, 05:21 AMCalvatE
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...DbW1aMHc#gid=0
Alternatively you can just go to the Market Board and click into the 'Meals' section, it displays every food there - even if no one's ever crafted or seen it before. The market board is a database on its own.
Also I'm a WHM and I don't use a single piece of crafted gear and I survive Twintania just fine, in fact I've beaten it with my raid team.
As long as you have about 4.2k HP in party you should be right, if you're dying check to see if your SCH is shielding everyone - because they always should be before a fireball regardless. -
12-02-2013, 05:22 AMHaibel
If Vit is all your looking for, all food except those with crafting and gathering stats give Vit.
the highest tier food gives 15 vit NQ and 19 vit HQ. -
12-02-2013, 05:38 AMJeykama
2* foods are amazingly bad this tier because their % conversion is so low. E.g. If you want all 19 points out of HQ Pineapple Juice, you need 634 VIT to start with. That's 200 more than I have as a full DL/Relic+1 paladin!
On the other hand is HQ Mulled Tea which gives 15VIT max at 4%, which means you only need 375 to cap it out - way more reasonable - I have 378 VIT as WHM including 3 accessories melded for +8-9 VIT
max 12 @ 400VIT: NQ 3%VIT - Mulled Tea, Buttons, Eft Steak
pro: cheapish as easily quicksynthed con: not likely to get max benefit as a caster due to needing 400VIT being a bit too high
max 15 @ 375VIT: HQ 4%VIT Mulled Tea, Buttons, Eft Steak
pro: less VIT required to get all 15 points, higher stat cap. con: HQs take time so likely to cost twice as much off market
max 19 @ 634VIT: HQ 2* food 3% VIT
pro: still none con: 634VIT is still absurd. If I had 400VIT I still would only gain 12 VIT.... same as NQ Mulled Tea.
tl;dr is, use NQ Mulled Tea (or equivalent) if you want to buy bulk. HQ Mulled Tea if you want the "best". Never use NQ or HQ 2* food for another tier or two unless you like wasting gil. -
12-02-2013, 05:57 AMReiterpallaschhttp://i619.photobucket.com/albums/t...speechless.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by GalaxyGirl
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12-02-2013, 06:00 AMWobiIf you have crafted i70 accessories you can meld VIT on them. Allagan accessory pieces lack Vitality, so this makes sense if that is how they were geared.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch
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12-02-2013, 07:04 PMGalaxyGirlThank you for responding for me, yes I socket vit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wobi
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12-02-2013, 07:09 PMLiadansWhisper
HQ Mulled Tea is probably going to give you the best bang for your buck. I'm really not sure why it's so expensive on your server...Pineapple Juice is MUCH more expensive on mine.
Mulled tea is...easy. xD It takes like, 5 ingredients (three of which can be bought off vendors) and water and fire shards. Maybe the shard requirement is why? -
12-02-2013, 07:21 PMMaqaqa
Pretty much every food comes with VIT.
I can suggest you HQ mulled tea for piety/spellspeed, HQ buttons in a blanket for determination, HQ deviled eggs for crit rate, HQ la noscean toast for tanking; they all come with more or less 15 VIT. -
12-02-2013, 07:22 PMispanoShard cost is around the same for other foods that level. Price is prolly just because people use it. But honestly, I just stick with Buttons in a Blanket. As others have said, the Double Star foods, with the exception of Sauteed Coeurl, are worse due to the lower percentages. Coeurl gets 4% for Vit instead of 2% like the other double star foods, but also takes a tome item to make. Though you get like 10 of them for 125 tomes.Quote:
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Again, Buttons is your best bet, especially for all around since all roles can make good use of it. -
12-02-2013, 07:24 PMLiadansWhisperThe thing with Buttons is that it's much, MUCH more expensive, on average, than Mulled Tea. At least on my server. I don't even bother trying to sell HQ Mulled Tea, whereas HQ Buttons give me an average of 1.5-2k gil a piece.Quote:
Originally Posted by ispano
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12-02-2013, 07:24 PMMaqaqaAnd you dont need to farm Apkallu eggs.Quote:
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I love buttons in a blanket! -
12-02-2013, 07:25 PMispanoI'm used to just making them myself, not all that hard to get the mats for either. Just takes a little time. I carry about 50 HQ Buttons, Toast, Deviled Eggs, and Stuffed Cabbage with me all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by LiadansWhisper
I have to farm them for the Deviled Eggs and La Noscean Toast. Though not difficult on Summoner. I just do it while we wait for Coil Members to log on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maqaqa
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12-03-2013, 02:54 AMInquisitor
Just to be comprehensive, here are all the foods that provide vitality. But it's pretty clear that Buttons in a Blanket and Mulled Tea are your best bets as a WHM. Anything better requires ingredients from unspoiled nodes making they much more expensive.
http://xivdb.com/?search/!filters/Ik...xfSU9JREVTQzoi -
12-03-2013, 03:23 AMOrophin
I'd go with Mulled Tea. Not sure why it's so expensive (apart from the shard cost I guess) as 3/5 items can be bought from the vendor. Ginger is a lower level gathered item while tea leaves are level 50. Pineapple Juice is much more expensive because it requires one of the items you can gather for a limited time per game day.
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12-03-2013, 03:30 AMShydo123
As an alternative to food (or an addition), you may want to consider adjusting your job bonus points. You said that you have a good amount of i90 gear (so a good chunk of primary stats) and if your main concern is vitality then adjust these points by putting more into vitality. At the point in the game you are currently at I doubt a few points would gimp you but the survivability would definitely help.
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12-03-2013, 03:33 AMElkwoodHit me up in game im actually on your server and am a level 50 cook, I can pretty much make whatever you want in mass quantities and do take orders. I HQ everything 100% which is what you want for Coil and Titan.Quote:
Originally Posted by GalaxyGirl
Mulled tea is your best bet for food just due to the amount of Vitality and MP it adds. I would have to check the cost of the food/farming to be able to give you a price. -
12-03-2013, 03:50 AMGalaxyGirlOooooh!! Thank you, I'll contact you. I never tried placing orders before.!Quote:
Originally Posted by Elkwood
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12-03-2013, 04:39 AMInquisitorProbably the relatively low demand for it (since only WHM's will want it) discourages most cooks from bothering to market it at all. But that's just a guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Orophin
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12-03-2013, 10:56 AMReiterpallaschWell yeah of course, but they said they're almost full ilvl 90. At that point they should have more than enough VIT even without the melds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wobi
That being the case, if they're working on T5 they're going to be using the best food they can anyways, so looking for food specifically for VIT when the food they're using IS the best VIT food for them is kind of a moot point. -
12-03-2013, 11:09 AMWobiWell not everyone knows this information, most players don't even bother with food at all which makes me almost ill to think about. Now a few more people on the forums are informed and aware of misleading stat caps. So it's not a total loss :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch
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12-03-2013, 02:58 PMLiadansWhisperIt's not Basil leaves. It's Thanalan Tea Leaves, and they are a level 50 item. :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by Deli
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12-03-2013, 03:00 PMDelioh ya then nvm! I was thinking about the knight's bread I was cooking yesterday :OQuote:
Originally Posted by LiadansWhisper
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12-03-2013, 03:35 PMLiadansWhisperOh! Knight's Bread is actually really nice. Sells for more than you'd think, given the ingredients. xDQuote:
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12-03-2013, 04:01 PMNihility
All the of >50 foods like pineapple juice are actually pretty horrible items at the moment. The % gains are so small that you need like level 120 gear to actually make use of them
for instance pineapple juice you would need like 750 vitality already for it to be ideal
If you actually are a conjurer in game, Mulled Tea is the best and honestly of the various top tier foods it's the cheapest one by a longshot too so 'yay, healer!' imo
But then again i make my own and salesmen are evil by nature >_>
and this may seem cruel and elitist but, from someone clearing twintania regularly, she is all about not getting hit to begin with. DPS might need food for enough damage to get through last phase or enough accuracy but for healing stuff that will kill you is going to kill you regardless and a lot of practice to know how to respond to each of her actions is the only thing you need.
Basically, If the second phase fireballs aren't killing you at full health your gold for hp needs
edit about buttons in a blanket: determination does pretty much nothing for a healer. Just let's you heal yourself harder which shouldn't be a problem to begin with and for dps it's entirely inferior to deviled eggs or even stuffed cabbage if you have need of that much accuracy and tanking is all about the la noscean toast so... avoid it if you can imo, it's almost a matter of why bother if your not going to do it right?
also, funny note on determination a lot of people actually think it is the only stat that increases fairy healing and believe it increases healing output because they do all the testing on themselves *oops!* :p -
01-06-2015, 11:33 AMkeroo
Bump for 2.45 patch