Coming from an MMO player of 20+ years who has played almost all the big titles and many smaller ones as well. For many players of MMOs, housing is a major part of the endgame. It allows us to artistically express ourselves.
No player should ever have to feel the soul crushing pain of losing a housing lottery over and over again with a sliver of hope in sight for the future.
The current system excludes the majority of players from using a major piece of content. Leaving them feeling like what is the point of grinding and continuing playing this game if I will never be able to own a house. All while a handful of players are happily building and using their homes.
I for one would like to see and inclusive system over an exclusive system.
We have a global standard when it comes to MMOs and expect a certain level of polish/features or we just move onto a different game. Housing is the true endgame for me and without access to it I cannot see myself playing this game past the storyline and some of the end game raids.
Every single player really should be able to have a house even multiple houses.
The pure joy I felt playing ESO and owning multiple instanced houses and being able to build houses out of scratch on empty plots was overwhelmingly fun. They have a housing mod also which makes it easier to build your custom homes though.
Basically I would like for FF14 players to experience even a sliver of that joy.
The housing is already very basic and limited. It takes a massive amount of time to set up a house and after you have it finished you are less inclined to redecorate which is the appeal of owning multiple houses so we can have different setups.
Lost Ark has an option where you can save multiple setups also. I believe they have about 10 or so presets.
If this was implemented in FF14 you could click a button and you house is a tavern, another button and your house has a kitchen/bedrooms, another button something else. The sky is the limit.
I would prefer multiple houses but this option works also.
Constantly running full wards is a massive drain on system resources. The majority of resources for instanced houses are not being used if no players are there.
My suggestion is to keep the wards the way they are or convert them all to FC only. Since FC's are gaming the system and ruining the experience for other players anyways.
Add instanced housing options where all players can build a small/med or large depending on their budget for the rest of the players in the meanwhile. Those players can then move to a ward when/if they are even lucky enough to win a lottery.
The economy boost from furniture was also insanely good in ESO since we had very high demand for furniture with all the houses we owned. We could hunt around for furniture recipes as rare drops or loot them from containers. Other systems would reward furniture recipes. For me it was the hottest way to make money.
Forcing players to maintain a subscription to save their house with no other options available to them is predatory also, as players spend countless hours on decorating their homes just right. People can risk it to be in a ward if they want but instanced houses never go away. I can log into ESO after 4 years and play with all my houses.
Housing for all please !!! <3
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Another amazing/easy to implement solution that I have seen going around is to add the ability to build your own small/med/large house on your island sanctuary. You will still be able to keep or buy a house in a ward (if you are lucky enough) as well as have the house on your island.
This idea would allow for more, artistic expression, venues and depth to the game.
Please come to the future SE and give us instanced options... Your game is really good other than the inventory system and housing...
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01-30-2023, 04:02 AMMr_HappyElitist Housing Must Go. Every Single Player Should Have A House.
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01-30-2023, 04:20 AMRaim
People wont actually like instanced housing, it'll feel like second class housing compared to wards. It would be better if they just invested more into server infrastructure and over doubled the wards on NA/EU.
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01-30-2023, 04:24 AMMr_Happy
If only FC's are in wards and all individual players are in instanced housing then there is no hierarchy. Doubling the amount of wards still won't give us enough houses for every player to have one.
We pay for a sub to a game that doesn't let us use one of it's main features unless we are lucky enough to win a lottery. -
01-30-2023, 04:25 AMCatStarwindIf that's what constitutes elitist players then I am super curious what you think of some wards being entirely owned by a single user and populated with only single member FCs?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Happy
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01-30-2023, 04:35 AMMr_HappyThat is a massive oversite on SE's part to allow players to exploit and game the housing system like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by CatStarwind
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01-30-2023, 04:36 AMPaalHenrik
You're not Mr Happy.
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01-30-2023, 04:40 AMMr_HappyTo funny literally dying here xDQuote:
Originally Posted by PaalHenrik
I agree not in the best mood after being denied content that is incredibly important to me in an MMO.
To be fair though FF14 is a fantastic game and other than housing and the item system I have no complaints.
It's reallllly nice to not need 10 alts in this game and to be able to do everything on a single character is much like Runescape was for me back in the day. -
01-30-2023, 05:13 AMDarvinaOu
After hearing from my friends housing woes in addition to my own I thought come here in the microscopic hope a dev will see this.
It would require a massive overhaul of the ward and plot and system. However given a enough time players can prepare.
Having both instance homes and wards would appease different player bases. My thoughts are as follows:
All players receive upon completing ARR an upgradeable private instanced plot (IP) in Mist, Lavender Beds or Goblet (allow for choice).
Players must procure upgrade materials and pay (gil) a labour's fee.
IP's residential district can changed for a fee (gil, token, tombstones, GC seals, etc)
Upon completing Heavensward and Stormblood players will an opportunity to move their IP to Emperyeum or Shirogane for free.
All public ward plots are upgradeable and pricing will reflect plots location only (This would be a huge overhaul for the Dev Team)
Should a player bid and win a public ward private plot (PWPP) they forfeit their IP.
Increase public ward plot prices and make all public ward plots upgradeable by upgrade materials and labour's fee.
FC houses must have a "Deed" or "Revised Deed". FC owners must gain 5 signatures on the "Deed" to place a bid on a plot
FC houses can be upgraded by upgrade materials, labour's fee and "Revised Deed", where additional signatures are needed (2 for a medium and 3 for a large; total 13 signatures)
Upgrade materials will be different depending on plot locations: IP or PWPP or FC.
Pricing will be reflected on the material. (Instance being inexpensive, PWPP being middling and FC plot being expensive)
Players will be able to Teleport to players on their Friendslist and/or Party regardless being instance or public ward plots
I probably missed something. Before anyone starts bombarding me with heat and questions I'm going to explain a few things mainly the option to upgrade the houses' size. This allow everyone to start on equal footing and gives everyone a chance to upgrade to their desired home. The FC Deeds: so I came up with the idea in the hopes of discouraging bot-plot-squatters (which I know realistically is unlikely). The forfeit of IP upon winning PWPP: just no to having 2 private homes -
01-30-2023, 05:19 AMMr_HappyI love it, you have def put a ton of thought into this.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarvinaOu
I would love to see something like this, but it may be to complicated for them to pull off.
Anything is better than having the majority of players pissed off on results day while a handful of players are happy and having fun because they are actually able to use a major system/content portion of the game that we are still locked out of... -
01-30-2023, 05:36 AMCorvus_VI can say with 100% certainty that you absolutely do not speak for me, or "people."Quote:
Originally Posted by Raim
If I could own and decorate an instanced large plot sans neighbors, I'd be perfectly content with that, and at most I would go for a ward plot when it became available. Giving people a shoebox to fall back on and calling that the equivalent of "a second class mansion" is a little disingenuous, don't you think?
Like, aside from the sheer size of the interior, the difference between a large plot and a small plot is almost 200 decoration slots. Calling it more of a "status" thing than a "I want to be able to decorate this" thing is a bit reductive/cynical.
Doubling the wards wouldn't really help SE's image problem, as well, that they deal with on a regular basis. I know wards are basically already ghost towns, but there would be empty small plots all over the place. You'd see endless "dead game" screenshots. It also probably just, wouldn't serve everyone who wants to own a plot of the size they want; which is a key point that instanced housing could address.