Dawntrail character graphics update - opinions, requests and discussion megathread

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Originally Posted by GreenLeafy

Was in a Ruby Weapon farm today and noticed that for whatever reason Nael also suffers from this?
https://i.imgur.com/2ndWbO4.png

It has been a long time since I ran that trial but I genuinely don't remember her having that and am completely lost how this even is translating to unique models.

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Feels like someone hit sharpen (ENHANCE!) like 20 times on her head...I can see the artifacting lmao....Feels like AI upscaling at this point...

I couldn't find a good picture of her face that's HQ but I found this. What did they do to my babygirl...

Forum apparently hates this link https://huiji-public.huijistatic.com...9%E5%86%99.png

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Originally Posted by Neytirhi

I'm convinced it's a bug, not a choice. Even more when you see that in Benchmark 1.0, there was no issue with that.

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I was so happy with 1st Benchmark....

How can we make things change and reach SE efficiently?? I'm desperate...... Feels like they don't care about those bug reports
Is there anyone talking about the eyebrows in the japanese bug report forum?

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So, I can offer some kind of extra information that might help out your bug reports. It’s not that there was no problem in the first benchmark, it’s that there was the opposite problem. When they replaced the brow textures (with one the same resolution for some reason??) brows became too light. So they were more visible than they used to be on darker skin but looked completely awful on lighter skin. The devs did respond to complaints but their fix seems to have just been make them even darker than originally so they’re almost invisible on dark skin now.

One thing I’ve noticed is how flat the brow texture looks and I wonder if that’s part of it? It feels like there were multiple tones in the brow as well as different levels of transparency pre DT. Maybe some alpha info and maybe a secondary overlay were originally there and lost in the update? Or maybe the pre DT eyebrows struck a balance that they are finding themselves unable to recreate (probably not helped by lack of QA). I don’t know I’m just speculating on that.

Im kinda personally wondering why they can’t just use the old brow textures that worked? Same with the eyelashes. The new textures aren’t higher resolution so what was the point? Change for no reason.

Yeah they did that to mine when I tried to make a new post about it :(

It may help to add more screenshots? Like I added several from Pre-Dawntrail. Granted they used Gpose filters (I'm on PS5) but the difference is still huge!
Pre Dawntrail
https://i.imgur.com/ZzjK743.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/irn7xhV.png

Dawntrail
https://i.imgur.com/LI9CzH7.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/05pq2DT.png

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Originally Posted by Cheapshot

So, I can offer some kind of extra information that might help out your bug reports. It’s not that there was no problem in the first benchmark, it’s that there was the opposite problem. When they replaced the brow textures (with one the same resolution for some reason??) brows became too light. So they were more visible than they used to be on darker skin but looked completely awful on lighter skin. The devs did respond to complaints but their fix seems to have just been make them even darker than originally so they’re almost invisible on dark skin now.

One thing I’ve noticed is how flat the brow texture looks and I wonder if that’s part of it? It feels like there were multiple tones in the brow as well as different levels of transparency pre DT. Maybe some alpha info and maybe a secondary overlay were originally there and lost in the update? Or maybe the pre DT eyebrows struck a balance that they are finding themselves unable to recreate (probably not helped by lack of QA). I don’t know I’m just speculating on that.

Im kinda personally wondering why they can’t just use the old brow textures that worked? Same with the eyelashes. The new textures aren’t higher resolution so what was the point? Change for no reason.

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I'm hoping they make them match what Seekers of the Sun have. Those seem totally fine! They don't seem to have any problem being visible on light or dark skin.

I watched a comparison of a cutscene of before and after the graphics update, and the new lighting really ruins the scene. The shadows are much lighter or nonexistent seemingly non existent.

https://youtu.be/U2C2lWKvycY?si=zmkG0YN2-rJDQ8UD

https://i.imgur.com/zOh7Sxn.png

The table seems less detailed.

https://i.imgur.com/mittlVk.png

I noticed that night time and dark areas in ARR zones don't feel as dark as they used to either. This is a good video comparing a lot of old areas before and after https://youtu.be/2aUOQeVF7EU?si=JNA_qtPohD9rgW0h

https://i.imgur.com/cMUGtrP.png

The glow effects from some objects like the crystals at Urth's Fount also look worse.

https://i.imgur.com/Lx4lnlU.png

The graphics update hurt the art direction of some of the old content, imo.

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Originally Posted by Nitelancer

The graphics update hurt the art direction of some of the old content, imo.

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Probably my biggest issue with this update right after how poorly player characters were handled. Art direction across the board is just in shambles.

Like what is this? Lmao

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Originally Posted by Emoo

＜2.0MSQ「エオルゼアの明日のために」香煙の間の提督＞
https://i.gyazo.com/b60f1ebd0b7e3546...12a6cb1757.png

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Originally Posted by GreenLeafy

Like what is this? Lmao

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So that's the Dawntrail "glow-up" everyone keeps mentioning!

Any word on if they will be touching things up? My Vieras face, especially the lips are really off

I want my lips back. Female Miqo'te Face 3 Mouth 4. Please give them back. PLEASE YOSHI P! RESTORE MY LIPS and then make whatever you replaced them with into A NEW FACE / MOUTH OPTION. I am so sad about this. Why did you have to ruin my face and mouth just to add yours? Why can't you give mine back!? I feel betrayed.