Gender locked race?

male a full furry anthromorphic design, female human with bunny ears. :c

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Originally Posted by Eimian_Eda

I am not shocked, but utterly dissapointed in the genderlock.

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Same. And they had to use the lore excuse. You just added viera in 4.5. You just didn't WANT to make bunny men Yoshi admit it.

So not only is there a gender lock, but I don't even like the Hrothgar design.

Two races I won't be touching. Good thing that there's still midlanders and au ra.

Saw it coming a mile away, still severely disappointed. I don't even have any interest in changing race, I just think going back to gender locking races is asinine.

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Originally Posted by Nestama

The amount of joy I have is too much. They're everything I wanted.

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Congratulations, truly.

I was mentally prepared for this... Yet still so disappointed with them for this gender-lock nonsense. They even tried to use lore as an EXCUSE! They make the lore! There is no excuse. smh... smh...

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Originally Posted by Bright-Flower

Same. And they had to use the lore excuse. You just added viera in 4.5. You just didn't WANT to make bunny men Yoshi admit it.

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Seriously, I can't believe he brought up lore as a legit reason.

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Originally Posted by Fredco191

But on the other hand. There goes my last chance for a big beard. <sigh>

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When you large cat man, all of you is beard.

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Originally Posted by Sehrina

I was mentally prepared for this... Yet still so disappointed with them for this gender-lock nonsense. They even tried to use lore as an EXCUSE! They make the lore! There is no excuse. smh... smh...

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That's the point, they didn't want male viera in their game so the lore is shaped this way.

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Originally Posted by CoolDad

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...031&height=580
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big oof

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Originally Posted by Ayer2015

gender locked races and no healer.. gg SE, I think I'll pass on this xpac

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DNC was the highlight for me, but I was hoping to hear there would be another job as a healer to compensate.

A bit bulky but I'll use it. sucks about the genderlock.

While I pretty much got everything I wanted (viera, dancer) from all of this, I am very disappointed that FF14 did what I hoped they wouldn't - have genderlocked races.

I hated it in other MMOs like BDO and Tera, and hoped that the game would understand how much people did NOT like this idea. Give us choices, not restrictions.

I was prepared, but it still hurts!!

... i was right about viera having normal feet though? i'll take what I can get. lol

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

1.0 didn't fail because because of gender locked races. It failed because it was bad.

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Never said it failed for that reason. It was a factor in people being unhappy though, and those things added up to the game not doing well.

Now we don't have all the other bad things to focus on, so the gender locking is going to become a bigger spot light issue people are going to be upset about.

Welp, can't wait until they reverse this short-sighted decision in 6.0.

I find it a bit funny that they are called Ronso in the first shard even tho Ronso had females too.

I'll maintain an open mind but I'm going to be on the look out for other MMOs, tbh.

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Originally Posted by Lauront

DNC was the highlight for me, but I was hoping to hear there would be another job as a healer to compensate.

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Yeah I was surprised DNC ended up being a DPS.
I main DPS but I'm a bit disappointed for those who main heal.

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Originally Posted by BiddyBatnana

Yeah I was surprised DNC ended up being a DPS.
I main DPS but I'm a bit disappointed for those who main heal.

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I didn't think healer was a good fit unless they could innovate with a combo-based system.

Male Viera needs to be added. The Hrothgar are just as dumb looking as I expected them to be. They literally just slapped some fur and a lion head on a Roegadyn body and called it Hrothgar. It's one of the laziest characters designs I've seen in this game yet. Male Viera would have actually added something interesting and different to the game. :/

Am so sorry for you guys didn't have the male viera : / however this is time to join and fan art should be the best way to protest!

Hrothgar was a pleasant surprise imo most of you do not know but during the 1985-89 there was a very successful animation series called "Thundercats" those who saw the animations would easily become a fan.

So Hrothgar in a way reminds me of those series.

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Originally Posted by Demise

Wow I expected the worst and it was somehow even worse then imagined.

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Same. I'm surprised that they actually even managed to make me gag.

But for those of you who wanted to play hunchback Roes with snouts, who look to have the IQ of a Neanderthal, congrats! \o/ You got it!

I don't want to give these narrow minded, backwards thinking cowards more of my money.*ptooey*
So ESO is the game I'm going to try now, and I pray with all my might that I'll like it because there are precious few MMORPGs that are PVE focused like this.

I thought Hrothgar would have more human facial features if the leak were true, so I was really surprise that they went with what they did.

I don't hate it, but I am on the fence. I like their body proportions, but I am curious about how emotive their faces will be. They don't seem too have too much facial movements in the preview, so hopefully they're working on that.

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Originally Posted by jake200135

Male Viera needs to be added. The Hrothgar are just as dumb looking as I expected them to be. They literally just slapped some fur and a lion head on a Roegadyn body and called it Hrothgar. It's one of the laziest characters designs I've seen in this game yet. Male Viera would have actually added something interesting and different to the game. :/

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Okay, let's be fair, the Male Viera design could easily have been just as lazy. That doesn't change the fact it was highly requested though, and that no one was looking forward to a genderlock.

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Originally Posted by NellMoshroca

Welp, can't wait until they reverse this short-sighted decision in 6.0.

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This could actually happen, as RoroCookies said, Ronso also had females...The lore is something easy to play with apparently in FF14 lol.

the faces look like masks. :x that bothers me.

Really disappointed in this decision. Gender locking was said to be a thing of the past, and basing it off "We haven't seen male viera before" Well that's basically the same reason as Male Miqo'te. But they're a playable gender.

Both races have both males and females. So why are they making them monogendered. This is just such a disappointment especially as people have been clambering for Viera for ages (2.0 at least!). And Ronso is only a recent idea comparatively.

Sure, we have a lot of customization for them 'apparently' But honestly that seems like a poor excuse when you think about it. They could have given the same amount of customization across two genders instead of a single gender with twice the amount.

I'm more upset with the fact that the developers went back on their word about no longer gender locking races after 1.0. It seems like a common theme these days for people to get their hopes up about something exciting and then the company giving them the bare minimum and leaving what was wanted out.

If certainly people wanted to play a male viera? they sure won't make a ronzo. They'll stay as their current race. If they wanted to play a female ronzo? They might go to viera, but honestly on the whole Ronzo just... doesn't work lore wise.

Not even joking. It goes against the lore to have Ronzo. They're openly a beast tribe. you can't even suggest otherwise. Beast tribes canonically can't be understood by people without the echo unless they specifically focus on learning the language, along with them being excempt from Hydalyns blessing. So what's next. Do we get to have Goblin WoL's? Oh maybe Amal'jah. After all, we already got Lalafell and they've just been confirmed to be subhuman if things shifted ever so slightly.

Genuinely surprised.
Sorry to all the bunny boys :(

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Originally Posted by jake200135

Male Viera needs to be added. The Hrothgar are just as dumb looking as I expected them to be. They literally just slapped some fur and a lion head on a Roegadyn body and called it Hrothgar. It's one of the laziest characters designs I've seen in this game yet. Male Viera would have actually added something interesting and different to the game. :/

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Yes because male elezen with bunny ears stuck to it would be so original right?

The real reason we're not getting male Viera is that the developer has a prejudice against men looking a certain way. I thought they'd have learned by now with giving us male Miqo'te, female Roegadyn, and female Highlanders that people do not like gender locks.

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Originally Posted by Lauront

I didn't think healer was a good fit unless they could innovate with a combo-based system.

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Yeah they could have added a stance that makes you DPS or HEAL. A new type of job. Idk.

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Originally Posted by redcurrant18

I'm back. I prepared this in advance, and posting it as they are clapping for these ridiculous cat race. Let me first say this: I hate Hrothgar because they came at the cost of male Viera and I'm not going to forget this ever.

Well it seems that they’ve gender-locked Viera and Hrothgar after all.
How disgusting, sexist, and homophobic - still uncomfortable designing male bunnies huh? You know I’ve really come to see this all as an attack on my identity especially after several of my posts in this thread were reported and I was banned because apparently someone is upset that I was very vocal about why I want male Viera and the fanart I was posting? I’m not sorry about what I said back then and this attempt at silencing me failed.
You know what would have been nice? Not being so secretive and being up front with us from the start, but no, they just had to cash in on everyone’s preorders before throwing this in our faces. This is why you cannot trust preorders these days at all. Thank god I had the foresight to not buy Shadowbringers. I can’t imagine that they would have refunded me. After all that I’ve seen I’ve come to the conclusion that this was a predatory tactic that took advantage of people’s trust, and they will go out of their way to silence anyone who speaks out against them. They are being anti-consumer and anti-player with the way they are behaving.
So in the end, they lost the money I was about to spend on the expansion, my recurring subscription which I have canceled, and any other Mog Station related purchases I would have made for fantasias/outfits/mounts. I refuse to be taken advantage of and I refuse to blindly follow this game into the abyss it’s going to sink into at this rate.
Good riddance and goodbye.

I see that this game has shifted sides and is now against who I am and what I stand for so in response I see no other option but to abandon FFXIV. Since they’re using the lore to justify this, then so will I. If the lore states that male Viera aren’t playable, then I guess that means my character will just have to disappear.
Goodbye.

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You are reading things into this that are simply not there. It's not about muh SJW demons to slay. I am unhappy with a lot of the design direction of the expansion, but let's not try turn this into another identity politics crusade. I doubt JP based devs are going to care much for it, when even growing numbers in the West find it to be tiresome and mostly nonsensical, myself included.

All other issues aside, I just don't like the designs of the Hrothgar. Not just in a "would you personally play as this race?" way but just in terms of good character design. They look awkward.

Sure, you can make it look "like Kimahri", but it's an ugly version of Kimahri. He looked fine as a character design. So are the Pantera characters people have been posting pictures of. But there's something off about Hrothgar and I don't like them from what I've seen so far.

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Originally Posted by KittenMittens

The real reason we're not getting male Viera is that the developer has a prejudice against men looking a certain way.

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They were never promised to look a 'certain way'.

I would've preferred them to look more like Byakko, though I'm happy for those who like how they were designed.

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Originally Posted by jake200135

Male Viera needs to be added. The Hrothgar are just as dumb looking as I expected them to be. They literally just slapped some fur and a lion head on a Roegadyn body and called it Hrothgar. It's one of the laziest characters designs I've seen in this game yet. Male Viera would have actually added something interesting and different to the game. :/

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Yeah male Miqo'te with bunny ears.

I'm going to need to play with them in the character creator. In the stream footage you could hardly tell they had fur half the time! They just looked like Roegadyns wearing masks. Reminds me of King from Tekken. The concept art looked way better.

They used lore as an excuse to not include playable male Viera, but the real reason is because they didn't want to, and they shaped the lore in a way to explain that. Female Hrothgar (a.k.a Ronso) exist, so why would they make Hrothgar male only?

Hopefully fans will be able to convince them to eventually create playable male Viera and playable female Hrothgar. There's no need to genderlock them.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

They were never promised to look a 'certain way'.

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He didn't say they were. He's saying that other people wanted that and he knows it's developer preference stopping it.

Even if SE wants to hide behind the lore reasons for Viera. Ronso have females and there is no lore that says they're rare. That's absolutely stupid.

That's completely hypocritical.