Punish MSQ Cutscene Skippers

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Originally Posted by Enla

To be fair there's a huge difference between loading in 10-20 seconds before hand and the fight text for both Gaius and Nero literally playing across the screen for the entirety of both of their cutscenes. If it's the former very few people are going to care myself included. If it's the latter and I have actually been in a lobby where this happened throughout the entire run while a newbie was present, then yes I'm reporting it. Because there's nothing more distracting while trying to watch the story play out than having Gaius' attack speech bubbles slam constantly across the screen.

All that said I do like the idea of a 'jail' locking players to the starting area until the cutscene is over as it would require the least amount of effort in terms of 'fixes'. However if the dev's can shoot it, I'd much prefer these become solo instances at this point since the trust system is so robust now.

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I wasn't stating that an SSD would allow you to load that much faster than an HDD to where the fight has begun while you're still in cutscenes. But it does load quickly.

Personally, if they start trying to add punishments for every little thing in game, people will either stop running certain content or just stop playing entirely. This particular issue isn't something I really care about one way or the other, as I don't use the exploit. I sit and play Animal Crossing or BOTW while waiting out cutscenes.

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Originally Posted by Arngrim_Greyashe

I wasn't stating that an SSD would allow you to load that much faster than an HDD to where the fight has begun while you're still in cutscenes. But it does load quickly.

Personally, if they start trying to add punishments for every little thing in game, people will either stop running certain content or just stop playing entirely. This particular issue isn't something I really care about one way or the other, as I don't use the exploit. I sit and play Animal Crossing or BOTW while waiting out cutscenes.

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That should say honestly and not personally. I'm on mobile and don't care to edit. Lol

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Originally Posted by Gula

I play high end PC with SSD while also having a decent connection, to PS4 players and low end PC players I must look like a hack god.

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Not sure if you meant to reply to me. Regardless, if the logs show that you're not engaging in the exploit then you have nothing to fear.

It shouldn't be too much of a stretch for Square to implement the dungeon start cutscene lock or the newer dialog lock they've employed for the newer solo instances.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Newbies "get to watch the cutscenes"... but don't get to participate in any of the fights that those cutscenes lead into.

It's like watching an action movie with all the action sequences cut out.

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Oh no, how someone can live without participating in looking at boss that dies in 5 seconds.
Bless those souls who found this bug.

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Originally Posted by QooEr

you still havent answered my question
and im not worked up over anything. youre the one putting emotes in here

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Short answer is that skipping cutscenes will cut the cutscenes for the newbies, potentially even skipping some. It's part of the reason the restriction was set in the first place. The second point is that it means the newcomers trying to enjoy the story don't get to participate in the fights (as short as they may be).
They adjusted the rewards for the extra time spent, if you don't want to deal with the cutscenes you can just skip the roulette altogether (just like you and many do)
If your point is "screw the newbies they'll live" then yeah, sure why report these people, no point. If you aren't a selfish jerk though, then skipping is clearly an issue.

PS: I hate the MSQ because of the forced cutscenes, I almost never run them as a result.

Tbh, i didnt see any newcomer complaint about this, especially in here, most of time just some SJW doing their work

I dont waste my time to do that skip trick, but if anyone do it in my run, they are very welcome, that mean i have more time for netflix

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Originally Posted by ShariusTC

I dont waste my time to do that skip trick, but if anyone do it in my run, they are very welcome, that mean i have more time for netflix

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Same. Heck, I miss most of the fights whether somebody skipped or not because I'm usually afk or tabbed out. :o

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Originally Posted by SDaemon

To be fair, unless you log back on, notice everyone else is still trapped in the cutscene and proceed to lay waste to the boss while they're still inside no one would even notice you got disconnected and reconnected and accidentally skipped it. That and SE can see for themselves who was engaged with the boss while others were still going through the majority of the cutscene through their own records.

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I am safe then ! I would never try to fight the bosses by myself anyway.

If I'm running a MSQ dungeon, it's always to level a class, so I'd be too weak anyway.

Maybe instead of punishment we fix the root of the problem. Why not give an option for players to choose what dungeon they want to run. The the one you can skip or not skip the story. If people so care to run with the story on can do so.

Perhaps we should segregate the people based on skipping the story or not. People who defend not skipping the story should have it on at all times or only play on the non skippable version of the dungeon. Likewise the people who want to skip the story can have the option to skip.

The people who defend not skipping the story shouldn’t have a problem not skipping the story when the devs give us the option to skip.
Then again they will skip it when the option will come back.

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Originally Posted by LalafellDown

Maybe instead of punishment we fix the root of the problem. Why not give an option for players to choose what dungeon they want to run. The the one you can skip or not skip the story. If people so care to run with the story on can do so.

Perhaps we should segregate the people based on skipping the story or not. People who defend not skipping the story should have it on at all times or only play on the non skippable version of the dungeon. Likewise the people who want to skip the story can have the option to skip.

The people who defend not skipping the story shouldn’t have a problem not skipping the story when the devs give us the option to skip.
Then again they will skip it when the option will come back.

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I'd be fine with this if they attributed the rewards appropriately. The skip version gives as much as a trial roulette, like it used to be. The no-skip version gives the full rewards they increased in order to get people to do the roulette in the first place. Or again we could just make these solo instances and solve the issue entirely.