#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

While healers still suck and are boring in PvE content, I will say that healing M2S when the boss has 4 stacks was the most fun I've had healing in recent memory, but that also shows that healing in DT is still only fun if the party plays badly.

Perfect runs are still a boring slog of 1 button with a DoT refresh every half a minute.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Time to check in with the strikers now that Savage has been released.

How are things going? Are you enjoying playing tank and/or DPS in content? Have your EX/Savage groups been clearing content easily without healers because healers are pointless, or struggled to find healers since you aren't healing anymore but your party needs healers?

Or did you back out of the strike and pick up your healing cane/codex/astrolabe/nouliths for group content after all?

Please don't talk about what you're seeing in PF. I want to know how things are with your personal game play. Discontent with individual job design aside, are all the claims made that led to the decision for you to strike true in Dawntrail?

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I haven't done Savage but I am enjoying Pictomancer. It's a fun job!

My FC uses healers when we do content because the officers believe people should play whatever they want and we have members who like playing healers. We're really not interested in what's the most efficient way to get clears or in doing things by the latest meta du jour.

I'm still participating in the strike. I occasionally play White Mage and am only leveling that job via quests and trusts. It feels weird not maining a healer after so many years and I miss it. Yet, nothing has changed. The issues healers have complained about have not been addressed.

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Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard

I wonder how quickly Square would nerf it if people somehow managed to co-ordinate groups of 8 SCH going around committing war crimes in PvP with Biolysis.

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That already happened lol

The tier was good, some of you should try it.

Most of these issues have nothing to do with healing and everything with the core principals around fight design. Savage is just a dance you memorize with maybe 1 or 2 ORDER random mechanics. Rotations are stale and don't change throughout the 5-15 minute fights.

This game needs procs.
This game needs heals to be impactful.
This game needs more consistent and random damage.
This game needs tanks to not be able to self sustain heal so easily (looking at you warrior)

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Originally Posted by Sharawiwi

This savage tier was the last straw that broke my back.
I gave it a try with competent friends and got bored out to death by the designs & the lack of healing to do on most (not M3S) fights.
When I'm not healing, either a friend of mine plays healer or we can't find one.

What I was looking for (engaging savage with good designs) as a last beacon of hope to stay on FFXIV as disappointed me greatly, as it was one of my main enjoyment with fishing when I started playing.
For now, I've decided to move on and stop FFXIV, I might come back in 7.55 for the legendary fishes and maybe prepare for the release of the 8.0 (copious amounts of copium for the job overhaul).

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"but they are clearly making tank and dps mit/heals even stronger in DT because the new savages will surely require tons of healing to make up for it"

I haven't tried the savage myself yet, but reading this, I'm not suprised in the least to hear that it will be another round of Glare spam

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Originally Posted by Moxiesan

Most of these issues have nothing to do with healing and everything with the core principals around fight design. Savage is just a dance you memorize with maybe 1 or 2 ORDER random mechanics. Rotations are stale and don't change throughout the 5-15 minute fights.

This game needs procs.
This game needs heals to be impactful.
This game needs more consistent and random damage.
This game needs tanks to not be able to self sustain heal so easily (looking at you warrior)

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There really is no true random damage as all random damage has a window in which it could happen. Once you know those windows it easy to be ready for that damage should it happen eliminating any threat it posed.

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Originally Posted by NanaWiloh

There really is no true random damage as all random damage has a window in which it could happen. Once you know those windows it easy to be ready for that damage should it happen eliminating any threat it posed.

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The easy solution would be enmity management. Suddenly tanks and healers in all forms of content would have something to do. But we can't have that because "muh numbers".

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Originally Posted by Capstone

The tier was good, some of you should try it.

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How many glares did you cast in each fight?

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Originally Posted by Payadopa

The easy solution would be enmity management. Suddenly tanks and healers in all forms of content would have something to do. But we can't have that because "muh numbers".

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If you mean this in any way similar to what we had before, then you'll have "solved" the lack of things to do for about the first 10 GCDs only and have cost us each 4 buttons to do so...

And if not, you're going to need an actual description.

Enmity "management" wasn't removed merely over "muh numbers". It was removed because it's a permanent and inflexible table that therefore has little to no optimization available to it beyond not overEnting, much like GCD healing.