SE, please designate a Role Play friendly server!

I am well aware of the forum rules, trust me. I /can/ write a longer message to re-iterate as to /why/ they should reply... but I've spent a lot of time/energy on this as is, hence the simplified version. Thanks for playing pretend-moderator though~

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Originally Posted by OskarHelvig

I am well aware of the forum rules, trust me. I /can/ write a longer message to re-iterate as to /why/ they should reply... but I've spent a lot of time/energy on this as is, hence the simplified version. Thanks for playing pretend-moderator though~

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I just don't understand why you think after 278 posts, a 279th that simply says "still waiting" is going to impress the dev team. ;)

Patience is a virtue.

Because it expresses everything I feel at the moment, and if the forums aren't there to express my feelings and emotions - then what are they for?!

... that was sarcasm. But yeah, there is nothing really left to say which already hasn't so it's just a matter of waiting for the answer, hence the post, indicating that a lot of people are still waiting. ;)

Greetings,

Apologies for the delay, I know you've all been waiting on a response to this topic.

There aren't any plans to designate a roleplay server for the upcoming World Merge. However, Yoshida did tell us "I also like roleplaying, so with the launch of version 2.0 we'll prepare a roleplay server." :)

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Greetings,

Apologies for the delay, I know you've all been waiting on a response to this topic.

There aren't any plans to designate a roleplay server for the upcoming World Merge. However, Yoshida did tell us "I also like roleplaying, so with the launch of version 2.0 we'll prepare a roleplay server." :)

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Thank you Bayohne-meister.

Here's hoping that Yoshida will succeed in his quest!
(and preferably not in his lock out Paladin when you become a Dark Knight quest, hehe)

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Greetings,

Apologies for the delay, I know you've all been waiting on a response to this topic.

There aren't any plans to designate a roleplay server for the upcoming World Merge. However, Yoshida did tell us "I also like roleplaying, so with the launch of version 2.0 we'll prepare a roleplay server." :)

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Oh snap :o

We'll look forward to it then! Thank you so much for the reply!

i agree im having the same encounter in my link shell, i would ask if they want to go party somewhere, and they leveld themselves to 50 max and now they are bored and want to quit game, and when i ask if anyone wants to level range they say im too high for you, your not the same level, gawd the level gap everyone is too high or too low, yet they played fair and everyone gets upset when they have to solo their quests.

when i want a party my linkshell says go "shout" for a party, gawd whats the point in haveing an linkshell if no one is going to play fair and just be jerks so that u would leave and look for hard core players, i came hard core because im in such chaos eviroment of everyone ambitous to level and quest for items, its definitly the level gap that my linkshell complains but everything else is fine :)

Argh damnit. I hope he doesn't make a 'Roleplaying Server' where all the RPers will flock to. That'd be sad.

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Greetings,

Apologies for the delay, I know you've all been waiting on a response to this topic.

There aren't any plans to designate a roleplay server for the upcoming World Merge. However, Yoshida did tell us "I also like roleplaying, so with the launch of version 2.0 we'll prepare a roleplay server." :)

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Yoshi and team is doing awsome keep up the awsome work :)

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Argh damnit. I hope he doesn't make a 'Roleplaying Server' where all the RPers will flock to. That'd be sad.

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lol why is that?

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Greetings,

Apologies for the delay, I know you've all been waiting on a response to this topic.

There aren't any plans to designate a roleplay server for the upcoming World Merge. However, Yoshida did tell us "I also like roleplaying, so with the launch of version 2.0 we'll prepare a roleplay server." :)

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Oh hurrah, thank you so much for the response Bayohne! Not to mention carrying our concerns and all.

Who was it said we'd get a response Tuesday? Bang on the money. I put Monday as an outside guess earlier but still - hurrah! If nothing else this also puts to rest one of the arguments being hurled about by certain less friendly members of the community, too, hopefully.

Now, here's hoping us roleplayers don't have to go through too much palava come that time, and that the server's setup won't be too unfriendly to people don't like roleplaying so much as just being on a server with the sort of community is friendly to it.

Thanks again!

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Originally Posted by Fensfield

Oh hurrah, thank you so much for the response!

Who was it said we'd get a response tuesday? Bang on the money. I put monday as an outside guess earlier but still - hurray!

Now, he's hoping us roleplayers don't have to go through too much palava come that time.

Thanks again!

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im sure 99% of the arguing thatl come when 2.0 hits and your offered a server is due to the fact youll have to transfer away from Balmung to a new server. And how people will whine its unfair they have to leave friends behind and itl split the community.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

im sure 99% of the arguing thatl come when 2.0 hits and your offered a server is due to the fact youll have to transfer away from Balmung to a new server. And how people will whine its unfair they have to leave friends behind and itl split the community.

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QFT. This is exactly what is going to happen LOL. However, congrats to all you RP dudes, dudettes, and ladydudes on getting your own RP server at the end of the year. Hope you guys enjoy it.

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Originally Posted by Wynn

QFT. This is exactly what is going to happen LOL. However, congrats to all you RP dudes, dudettes, and ladydudes on getting your own RP server at the end of the year. Hope you guys enjoy it.

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Thank you, Wynn.

And yes, it's pretty obvious that'll happen if a separate server is created. Frankly, though, how is that different from any change to the game? Some group will always have issues, another will present reasonable counter arguments, and then there'll be one more whose members just act like idiots.

I suspect come that time I will be supporting any threads asking either that the official designation be applied to the server with the greatest roleplayer concentration, or any thread proposing a good idea for getting the community comfortably transplanted. But even if that motion fails and the RP server's creation is done clumsily, I still think the existence of such a server would be most beneficial in the long-run so.. yeah. I know I wouldn't mind starting over to follow the majority of roleplay. Of course that's only my opinion but.. that's kind of the point.

If anything, my concern is that the eventual creation of a roleplay server will make certain people feel it gives them free reign to be nasty to anyone fancies engaging in roleplaying on a server that isn't officially suggested for the purpose. But then, I guess there'll always be people are basically just horrible. Hooray for blacklists.

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Originally Posted by Fensfield

Thank you, Wynn.


I suspect come that time I will be supporting any threads asking either that the official designation be applied to the server with the greatest roleplayer concentration, or any thread proposing a good idea for getting the community comfortably transplanted. But even if that motion fails and the RP server's creation is done clumsily, I still think the existence of such a server would be most beneficial in the long-run so.. yeah. I know I wouldn't mind starting over to follow the majority of roleplay. Of course that's only my opinion but.. that's kind of the point.

If anything, my concern is that the eventual creation of a roleplay server will make certain people feel it gives them justification to be nasty to anyone fancies engaging in a little roleplaying on a server that isn't officially suggested for the purpose. But then, I guess there'll always be people are basically just horrible. Hooray for blacklists.

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it will be a new sevrer 100%, they wont designate a server already out there as a roleplay server, for the same exact reason the EU server is a "new" server compared to the others which are merged
you dont want to force people onto a roleplay server who do not want to be there, it must 100% be by choice(its more fair obviously, since roleplayers want the server that they should be inconvenienced by a move and not those who arent the roleplayers who do not want or do not care about the server)

as far as people who will come harrass you, yeah youll get those regardless its the nature of the beast, on or off an official serverm though you cant say that non roleplayers showing up on a roleplay server wont get it thrown in their face too...same beast...same crap

We'll cross that bridge when we get to it. I for one would love to transfer over to an RP server given the chance. I play this game to RP, and most of my friends are RPers. I suppose it would be a lot harder for the light RPers or people with a lot of non-RP friends they are super close with who wouldn't want to go along with them. /shrug Everyone has to make their own choices. If you're a lot closer to the OOC community then yeah I guess it doesn't make much sense to move lol.

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Greetings,

Apologies for the delay, I know you've all been waiting on a response to this topic.

There aren't any plans to designate a roleplay server for the upcoming World Merge. However, Yoshida did tell us "I also like roleplaying, so with the launch of version 2.0 we'll prepare a roleplay server." :)

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That means there are going to be free world transfers to that server or... u are gonna have to pay to go that server?

What about a Cute Lala Server, Bayohne? Don't you think Hiir is cute?

http://www.gwcdn.com/albums/images/4...2ae5003968.jpg

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Originally Posted by Fiosha_Maureiba

(and preferably not in his lock out Paladin when you become a Dark Knight quest, hehe)

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That was only possible 10 games ago brah.

Sorry bout that.

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Originally Posted by OskarHelvig

We'll cross that bridge when we get to it. I for one would love to transfer over to an RP server given the chance. I play this game to RP, and most of my friends are RPers. I suppose it would be a lot harder for the light RPers or people with a lot of non-RP friends they are super close with who wouldn't want to go along with them. /shrug Everyone has to make their own choices. If you're a lot closer to the OOC community then yeah I guess it doesn't make much sense to move lol.

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^ This. I'm pleased to see the response and I will also be joining the designated RP server when that time comes! /joy

Personaly I say "Bah" to further fragmenting the communities. I like my server to have a mix of everything, NA, JP, EU, Roleplayers, Casual players, Hardcore players...ect.

I'd rather not everyone be huddled into their own little corner where they feel safe and warm.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

Personaly I say "Bah" to further fragmenting the communities. I like my server to have a mix of everything, NA, JP, EU, Roleplayers, Casual players, Hardcore players...ect.

I'd rather not everyone be huddled into their own little corner where they feel safe and warm.

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unfortunately special interest groups dont agree with that, they want to feel special by having something of their own
its why unofficial servers for certain things work real well, you can get everyone together still, but once they designate a server new and official all the special interests will run to it

I worry that if a new server is created for role-playing, the majority of the role-playing community will stay on Balmung with their friends, and there will only be a tiny community on the new server which may eventually die out.

If a new server is made, I won't know what to do honestly. I would want to be where the larger RP community is, but how will I know which to choose?

I can see that splitting everyone up and defeating the purpose of the RP server.

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Originally Posted by Nabiri

I worry that if a new server is created for role-playing the majority of the role-playing community will stay on Balmung with their friends, and there will only be a tiny community on the new server which may eventually die out.

If a new server is made, I won't know what to do honestly. I would want to be where the larger RP community is, but how will I know which to choose?

I can see that splitting everyone up and defeating the purpose of the RP server.

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thats not nesisarily a bad thing though

if the community is on an unofficial server, ad its doing well, then why should it need an official server at all?

anyone who really cares will research the server they want to go to if they have those special interests anyway(such as roleplaying, or specific timezones and such)

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

unfortunately special interest groups dont agree with that, they want to feel special by having something of their own
its why unofficial servers for certain things work real well, you can get everyone together still, but once they designate a server new and official all the special interests will run to it

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Except when you don't have it recognized, communities spread around all servers and grow thin, and die out. To avoid that you need people on the same server. You just don't get it, being part of the majority non-RP playerbase, how essential it is to have all RPers on one server for the community to thrive, not to just linger, but thrive. Your arguments don't get too much traction because this ignorance of the topic at hand is evident in each post.

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Greetings,

Apologies for the delay, I know you've all been waiting on a response to this topic.

There aren't any plans to designate a roleplay server for the upcoming World Merge. However, Yoshida did tell us "I also like roleplaying, so with the launch of version 2.0 we'll prepare a roleplay server." :)

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Thank you SO much for this response, Bayohne! You're right, many of us were on pins and needles!

It would have been nice to put this in place now, but I think I can see the reasoning behind waiting. With 2.0 there will be a lot of server restructuring and even more upheaval than we're about to go through. But the idea right now is to consolidate the reduced playerbase to maximize the opportunity for group play. At least with the upcoming merge setup, there is still the opportunity for those in the know to come to Balmung and join the RP community there if they would like to. We just need to get the word out.

In regards to splitting up the community, it's too bad we didn't have a few official server designations right from the start. But we didn't, so now we can only go forward. I believe the least disruptive option would be to take the server that the community and its friends has already designated as the unofficial RP server (Besaid/Balmung) and just make it official. It would keep an already established server community together. However, as it has been stated, that is possibly unfair to some who play there and do not want to be on a RP server (though, it begs the question, if you are so vehemently opposed, why are you there?). So, we may very well see come 2.0 that the official roleplay server will be a brand new world, much like Ragnarok.

If the designated RP server is indeed a new world, we'll all have some decisions to make. For me, I see it being very simple. I came here from FFXI where I carried over my old linkshell. I chose Besaid because it was where the RP community was going, and I knew that being on a server with such a friendly, helpful and mature community would give my linkshell the greatest chance for longevity. And unless I have some major objections from members of my linkshell, the RP server is where we'll be going.

Again, thanks Yoshi-P and Bayohne for bringing us this information. It's a matter that's very important to me. I did not subscribe in January, but when the server merges gave everyone cause for concern and the possibility to finally officially designate a roleplay server presented itself, it was enough to get me to lay down money to make my voice heard.

This is fantastic news. :cool:

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Originally Posted by OskarHelvig

Except when you don't have it recognized, communities spread around all servers and grow thin, and die out. To avoid that you need people on the same server. You just don't get it, being part of the majority non-RP playerbase, how essential it is to have all RPers on one server for the community to thrive, not to just linger, but thrive. Your arguments don't get too much traction because this ignorance of the topic at hand is evident in each post.

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Ok, so you have 2 choices in the end then

1) Go unofficial only and have everyone who joins attempt to flock to the server, and have a wide variety of players, not only RPists, and no one would get seperated from their friends ever since they wont be forced to move to an official server

2) Go official, everyone who wants to RP goes to the official server, those who do not want to sever ties dont, and then we hear complaints about how the community is now split because you were forced to make a chocie due to having a special interest group.


Either way, you end up with players complaining about 1 thing or another. Either they complain that the server isnt official(which it wont be cuz its unfair to force players onto an official server for a special interest) or you get complaints that people were split up(which is by choice since its your choice to go to an official server so you chose to be split from friends if you do it)



There is no ignorance, its all pretty much fact, people are already complaining about it(go look, seriously, they have) so its a lose lose situation for complainers
but either way, the RP community will survive, the difference is basicaly how you do it


The problem with your posts at this point is no matter what I say you will go out of your way to bash me, and thats not ignorance on my part, but just immaturity on your part. I have been giving ALOT of positive feedback but you apperently just dont care

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

The problem with your posts at this point is no matter what I say you will go out of your way to bash me, and thats not ignorance on my part, but just immaturity on your part. I have been giving ALOT of positive feedback but you apperently just dont care

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TheVedis, it's difficult to see that positivity when you 1) amusedly call us RPists 2) openly admit that you troll roleplayers in public and 3) go on a tirade like this.

I've tried to defend what's fair for everyone, but with attitudes like this, it's hard not to prefer that SE officially designate Balmung the RP server and leave it up to the haters to transfer if they're not happy. I seriously can't see how an official designation would change your gameplay, other than make it harder for you to openly insult the RP community.

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TheVedis, it's difficult to see that positivity when you 1) amusedly call us RPists 2) openly admit that you troll roleplayers in public and 3) go on a tirade like this.

I've tried to defend what's fair for everyone, but with attitudes like this, it's hard not to prefer that SE officially designate Balmung the RP server and leave it up to the haters to transfer if they're not happy. I seriously can't see how an official designation would change your gameplay, other than make it harder for you to openly insult the RP community.

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1) I will now and forever call them RPists, sorry, but if you have no sense of humor thats not my fault
2) I only troll RPists who are at my linkshells spot in Uldah or who are in the middle of a damn camp(broken water mostly back in the day)
3) Ive been more then civil, and reasonable, and others bash me cuz i dont agree with their views, then i get called out as being in the wrong? Yeah, sounds like the 13 forums to me.

Dont look at my attitude, go back and seriously take a look at those who respond to anyone who doesnt agree with their views in these type of threads. People do not want discussions, they dont even want answers, they want praise, and I dont give that so im labeled as a forum troll, and the bad guy(i swear im not trolling people most of the time, and when i do, its usualy more in a comedic sense)

As ive stated in my views since the begining almost in this thread

If you want your own server, fine, dont force people into it though, this view is the most universaly fair to EVERYONE. And for posting it, i have instead been bashed by several people who are claiming its not fair they have to be the ones to transfer off due to them wanting something special done for them.

This is fantastic news. Thank you for the reply, Bay!

I just think it's a shame people are so dire to seperate themselves from the rest of the community. I bet people are just waiting for the JP and NA servers to emerge as well.

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To be blunt we shouldn't be segregating people just because it's what they feel comfortable with, everyone should be able to co-exist on the same server.

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Greetings,

Apologies for the delay, I know you've all been waiting on a response to this topic.

There aren't any plans to designate a roleplay server for the upcoming World Merge. However, Yoshida did tell us "I also like roleplaying, so with the launch of version 2.0 we'll prepare a roleplay server." :)

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There is no reason to do this, the RPing groups that are on Besaid, are staying, so Balmung will be the new "RP" server, we already have one designated -.-

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Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa

There is no reason to do this, the RPing groups that are on Besaid, are staying, so Balmung will be the new "RP" server, we already have one designated -.-

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but they cant dub it official cuz itd be unfair to those who dont want it to be "official" thats why they will eventualy try and make one specificaly for RP thats called the roleplaying server

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Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa

There is no reason to do this, the RPing groups that are on Besaid, are staying, so Balmung will be the new "RP" server, we already have one designated -.-

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Right, because the people who are currently playing the game are the only people who will ever be playing the game. Nope, there aren't ever going to be any new customers coming ever again, certainly not any new customers who might be unaware of what the community's unofficially designated RP server is...

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Originally Posted by Rhianu

Right, because the people who are currently playing the game are the only people who will ever be playing the game. Nope, there aren't ever going to be any new customers coming ever again, certainly not any new customers who might be unaware of what the community's unofficially designated RP server is...

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With all due respect, most found it with little to no problem. :] If someone truly wants to RP, then I don't think it will escape them to type "FFXIV RP" into Google. The #1 result is the RPC website (www.ffxiv-roleplayers.com). It should be pretty easy, unless you seriously doubt the googling/mental capacities of roleplayers.

She makes a point--you're free to disagree, but no need to be so satirical.

Because if you want to RP, you have to go out of your way to find the community, right? Just like they do in modern MMOs like SWTOR! Oh wait...

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Originally Posted by Rowyne

it's difficult to see that positivity when you 1) amusedly call us RPists 2) openly admit that you troll roleplayers in public and 3) go on a tirade like this.

I've tried to defend what's fair for everyone, but with attitudes like this, it's hard not to prefer that SE officially designate Balmung the RP server and leave it up to the haters to transfer if they're not happy. I seriously can't see how an official designation would change your gameplay, other than make it harder for you to openly insult the RP community.

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Yeah, thats kind of funny to me Rowyne, when several of us were on the side of RPers, and I for one made several posotive comments about my experiences with you folks on my server, just to be insulted, bashed and labels for disagreeing with you here. Any negativity you and your fellow RPist get from this point on from us, you brought on yourselves.

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Originally Posted by Mychael

If someone truly wants to RP, then I don't think it will escape them to type "FFXIV RP" into Google.

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No. Players should not be required to do any research whatsoever prior to starting up the game and creating their character. That's not user-friendly.

I don't doubt people's ability to use google, but the fact is doing so shouldn't be necessary. A game should be intuitive enough that you can just jump right in and start playing immediately, without having to do any work to prepare beforehand.

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Originally Posted by Rhianu

No. Players should not be required to do any research whatsoever prior to starting up the game and creating their character. That's not user-friendly.

I don't doubt people's ability to use google, but the fact is doing so shouldn't be necessary. A game should be intuitive enough that you can just jump right in and start playing immediately, without having to do any work to prepare beforehand.

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Yet you expect players to do research to find the server with the largest player base of there language? Or any other Specific group?