So, why isn't this a thing yet?

Maybe SE will cave in like they did for Male miqote and the other genders being added...We just have to keep at it for 9+ years XD (Personally I think that helped the game a lot )

But lets ask ourselves this: Would adding playable kids really hurt the game much? (Or at least teenagers, so the Tumblr SJW's won't throw a tizzy)

and If so, how and why?

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Originally Posted by Shiro-Koizumi

Maybe SE will cave in like they did for Male miqote and the other genders being added...We just have to keep at it for 9+ years XD (Personally I think that helped the game a lot )

But lets ask ourselves this: Would adding playable kids really hurt the game much? (Or at least teenagers, so the Tumblr SJW's won't throw a tizzy)

and If so, how and why?

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I think a better question would be whether or not the pros outweigh the cons.

Cons: SE is inevitably hurled into a blazing firestorm of controversy for allowing children to be maimed, mauled, and sexualized.

Pros: Some people get to play as a child, for whatever reason.

Seems pretty obvious.

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

There have been some downright disgusting posts.

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Pray tell your thoughts on Rydia and Relmn who are like 8 and 6?
You against that too?
I'm honestly curious how people are up in arms when they literally have had children in plenty of FF games.
Relm is the youngest female playable character in the FF series.

Edit: Correction: Rydia is the youngest, she was 7 in the beginning of FF4.
Relm was 10.
CORRECTION AGAIN: Polom and Parom are 5.

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Originally Posted by Mhikail

Pray tell your thoughts on Rydia and Relmn who are like 8 and 6?
You against that too?
I'm honestly curious how people are up in arms when they literally have had children in plenty of FF games.
Relm is the youngest female playable character in the FF series.

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Rydia grows up, and the last time I checked neither of them as children have the possibility of removing all their clothes or equipping them with something offensive.

Let's not add to the sexualisation of children.. I mean, Lalafells wearing skimpy clothing is really pushing it and the levels of uncomfortable people feel should be a sign that adding children into the game so creeps can mess around with them is probably not the best idea.

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Originally Posted by Yellow

Rydia grows up, and the last time I checked neither of them as children have the possibility of removing all their clothes or equipping them with something offensive.

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She was still a child and Relm doesn't grow up.
Hope is like 14? I'm just saying it's not rare for a kid to be in games like this.
The fix for the children thing is alter they undressed clothing so it doesn't look gross.
Other gear would need to modified. I think they won't do it because there would be too much alterations for the children 'race'.
All I want is a race that ACTUALLY isn't a human look alike...again you're dealing with too much alterations.
If people really want kid races, they need to make them like teenagers. Elin was cute to me, but people were absolutely sickening about them.
I don't wanna see that here too so...I'm more concerned on how people treat the kids than the fighting aspect.

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Originally Posted by MisterLucie

I think a better question would be whether or not the pros outweigh the cons.

Cons: SE is inevitably hurled into a blazing firestorm of controversy for allowing children to be maimed, mauled, and sexualized.

Pros: Some people get to play as a child, for whatever reason.

Seems pretty obvious.

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I think SE would be fine, 1.0's failure of a launch couldn't kill them I don't think a bunch of pissed off moms and dads will either XD.

I still think teenagers around Alphinaud's age is a perfect middle ground. Everyone wins that way.

Also kid's aren't these precious angels that need protecting and shielding all the time, Most kids nowadays are rotten little punks who swear worse than a drunken sailor hooked on crystal meth.

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Originally Posted by Shiro-Koizumi

I think SE would be fine, 1.0's failure of a launch couldn't kill them I don't think a bunch of pissed off moms and dads will either XD.

I still think teenagers around Alphinaud's age is a perfect middle ground. Everyone wins that way.

Also kid's aren't these precious angels that need protecting and shielding all the time, Most kids nowadays are rotten little punks who swear worse than a drunken sailor hooked on crystal meth.

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But what does SE get out of suffering through all the bad press? What does introducing this playable child race do for them? They get nothing positive out of it.

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Originally Posted by Mhikail

Pray tell your thoughts on Rydia and Relmn who are like 8 and 6?
You against that too?
I'm honestly curious how people are up in arms when they literally have had children in plenty of FF games.
Relm is the youngest female playable character in the FF series.

Edit: Correction: Rydia is the youngest, she was 7 in the beginning of FF4.
Relm was 10.

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Aren't Palom & Porum like... 5?

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Originally Posted by MisterLucie

But what does SE get out of suffering through all the bad press? What does introducing this playable child race do for them? They get nothing positive out of it.

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Teenagers or at least Alphinauds body type then? I haven't heard anyone really complain about him other then him being a bossy punk XD

Just seems like a good middle ground. No backlash and It'd be an optional thing to fantasia to.

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Originally Posted by MaethusXion

Aren't Palom & Porum like... 5?

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I corrected it.
But as Shiro and I said, Teenagers such as Alp and his twin would be the best choice.
Or the Twin WHM's.
So if we do see kids, expect them to be around 16 in physical stature.
Hell, even that CNJ leader dude is around his height and he's like a billion years old lol.

And you can't complain about teenagers in combat. Alphinauds gotten his ass tossed about a couple times in the story, even for a book mage he can hold his own.

I dunno about children as playable characters, but if we ever get legit personal housing, I could see being able to hire children from various races to take care of things like managing your garden when you're gone or something.

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Originally Posted by Shiro-Koizumi

And you can't complain about teenagers in combat. Alphinauds gotten his ass tossed about a couple times in the story, even for a book mage he can hold his own.

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And he's also an NPC. There's a difference between PC and NPC.

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Originally Posted by Nestama

And he's also an NPC. There's a difference between PC and NPC.

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This.

People don't realize that children being IN games isn't a problem. It's making them playable that is. You can't dress Rydia or Alphie up in slutty clothes and start roleplaying them as sex workers. Something that WOULD happen if children became playable.

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

This.

People don't realize that children being IN games isn't a problem. It's making them playable that is. You can't dress Rydia or Alphie up in slutty clothes and start roleplaying them as sex workers. Something that WOULD happen if children became playable.

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I think.. your mind is much worse then the OP's and those of the threads. Please seek help.

Seriously, if you think of a child in video game and your mind immediately goes to that... *THAT* is the issue here. They are also not children, they are not even human. Who cares?

I am starting to wonder about some people.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

I think.. your mind is much worse then the OP's and those of the threads. Please seek help.

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Wow... it's irrational, personal attacks like these that really make the forums shine. Crawl back to your cave/bridge.

FYI, I didn't accuse the OP or anyone in this thread of intending to abuse the idea of playable children in this way. But it WOULD happen, and that's a good enough reason to not even allow the possibility.


EDIT: By the way, accusing someone who exposes a problem of committing that same action is disgusting, despicable, and repulsive, not to mention irrational and moronic.

That would be like accusing someone who wants to ban/strictly control guns because they are used in murders of being a murderer themselves.

It's not that it will happen, it's that it can. Anyway, I find it incredibly stupid to picture multiple kids being the hero (and insulting to storyline characters playing the antagonist role... hell, even protagonists). I feel it's better to leave them as NPC's only and leave the heroic/stressful work to the adults (this including 18 year old teenagers).

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

Wow... it's irrational, personal attacks like these that really make the forums shine. Crawl back to your cave/bridge.

FYI, I didn't accuse the OP or anyone in this thread of intending to abuse the idea of playable children in this way. But it WOULD happen, and that's a good enough reason to not even allow the possibility.


EDIT: By the way, accusing someone who exposes a problem of committing that same action is disgusting, despicable, and repulsive, not to mention irrational and moronic.

That would be like accusing someone who wants to ban/strictly control guns because they are used in murders of being a murderer themselves.

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By your logic. We should ban violence. It will never happen if we ban violence.

Also, the first thing you came up with... "was that" can you really blame me?

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Originally Posted by Nestama

It's not that it will happen, it's that it can. Anyway, I find it incredibly stupid to picture multiple kids being the hero (and insulting to storyline characters playing the antagonist role... hell, even protagonists). I feel it's better to leave them as NPC's only and leave the heroic/stressful work to the adults (this including 18 year old teenagers).

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Not really, a teenager being a hero sounds pretty cool. It is actually quite popular for many books.

I don't want to play anything under 10. However I would love to have a character who is a teenager.

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Originally Posted by Syphin_Polaris

Stating what some people WOULD do in this day and age isn't cause to "seek help". Maybe no one in this thread would, but some people, somewhere, would start doing things along those disgusting lines. Ignoring the elephant in the room doesn't make it go away, in a matter of speaking. Sure the OP (hopefully) was just innocently thinking it was adorable and nothing more, but then there is the.... questionable side of the world....

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The people who are afraid of it are empowering it. Hysteria and Fear breeds curiosity. Try instead of thinking of the bad things - think of the good things, as a roleplayer I can think of numerous situations where this can help (LEGIT) role-players.

In Star Wars Galaxies, you could mold and create child-like characters if you wanted. Due to how complex the character creation was however they never got any flak for it. That was because it was an option, it wasn't an intended effect, some people most likely DID do bad with it, and did do things like slavery and did things with it. If people "do" do that with them, that is not SEs fault, that is the players. SE cannot be blamed for it, the heroes were intended for a different reason. Unlike games where its intended for you to be the bad guy and kill people. That is why in games like Skyrim you cannot hurt children, but those games also lack teenagers.

Online Interactions are not rated, nore can they ever be.

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

The lack of logical reasoning continues...

In the future, please refrain from ever starting a post with "by your logic", because you are clearly incapable of following logic or creating accurate analogies.

Violence in media is not illegal. Children (and the depiction of children) in sexual situations is.

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There is no part of the story, any at all. I have done it all, where your character is put in a "sexual" situation. So this isn't an issue. If people "role-play" it, know that role-playing is not a feature of the game. It has nothing to do with the story and it is "not" supported, at all. It is an afterthought. SE cannot be flaked for something that is not a feature of the game. It is a byproduct of players, not SE.

Now, if SE had role-playing as a feature to the game. As in - it was something they developed content for and supported and moderated. That would be an entirely different issue. However, then it would have no story to it at all.

There is no player made content to this game. It is a story-driven MMO.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

I think.. your mind is much worse then the OP's and those of the threads. Please seek help.

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Stating what some people WOULD do in this day and age isn't cause to "seek help". Maybe no one in this thread would, but some people, somewhere, would start doing things along those disgusting lines. Ignoring the elephant in the room doesn't make it go away, in a matter of speaking. Sure the OP (hopefully) was just innocently thinking it was adorable and nothing more, but then there is the.... questionable side of the world....

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

By your logic. We should ban violence. It will never happen if we ban violence.

Also, the first thing you came up with... "was that" can you really blame me?

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The lack of logical reasoning continues...

In the future, please refrain from ever starting a post with "by your logic", because you are clearly incapable of following logic or creating accurate analogies.

Violence in media is not illegal. Children (and the depiction of children) in sexual situations is.

Just give up with this guy, most of his posts in the forums as is are whines or lack of all logic anyways. I'm done here.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

There is no part of the story, any at all. I have done it all, where your character is put in a "sexual" situation. So this isn't an issue. If people "role-play" it, know that role-playing is not a feature of the game. It has nothing to do with the story and it is "not" supported, at all. It is an afterthought. SE cannot be flaked for something that is not a feature of the game. It is a byproduct of players, not SE.

Now, if SE had role-playing as a feature to the game. As in - it was something they developed content for and supported and moderated. That would be an entirely different issue. However, then it would have no story to it at all.

There is no player made content to this game. It is a story-driven MMO.

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LMAO
ROFLMAO

Seriously, I couldn't stop laughing for a good minute there. My wife was wondering what was going on.

"Role-playing is not a feature of this game and is not supported"... Are you for real? Luckily, it appears you've hit your post limit for the day, so we won't have to suffer your irrationality for a little while at least.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

There is no part of the story, any at all. I have done it all, where your character is put in a "sexual" situation. So this isn't an issue. If people "role-play" it, know that role-playing is not a feature of the game. It has nothing to do with the story and it is "not" supported, at all. It is an afterthought. SE cannot be flaked for something that is not a feature of the game. It is a byproduct of players, not SE.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNOWeegrsjc
lol

Remember one thing, always. Roleplaying can go to limits you can't understand, and it's not SE's fault, it's not fault of any developer, and CAN HAPPEN EVERYTHING AND EVERYWHERE...! But, it's only role-play, who cares?... Look at my lalafell, she believes herself to be the lalafell goddess, and master of the Lalafell Twelve. (Twelve holy lalafell of each job she recruited as royal guard...)

Am I , the player, sick for that my character wants to take control of Eorzea and be Archbishop Version Lalafell?... Gods I'm not!... But it's funny to roleplay, it doesn't affect anyone, even less those who don't care about roleplay. (My whole static is 'no-RP' zone, because my lalafell's attitude is not exactly pleasant in raiding, teehe... She's annoying. So I just STFU and follow orders like a good normal soldier when raid, lalafell is not herself during raid content.)

I was roleplaying a quiet dragon guy from the start of heavensward, was so boring roleplay that I felt i lose some of the enjoyment that I could have got if feeling the hype with the little lalafell... So went back to her, because there are two types of roleplayers, mostly, those who like to roleplay a lot 'slice-of-life' stuff, and others who like to roleplay weird-strange-funny stuff. Weird characters doesn't mean weird sick players behind. (I mean, really, I don't want to conquer Eorzea myself, I swear! )

My roleplay ======

http://files.sharenator.com/90045.jpg

And remember, roleplaying only affects to those who also roleplay, or are fine with it. In game, some people just writes to me as the player, I know it automatically when they say "Neko" because was first char name and they associate it with the player now.

PS: My lalafell has enslaved already four kitties, miqo'te shall not take her lightly!...

PS2: Sorry my English.

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http://puu.sh/iAWbb/7f7605fef1.jpg

Like, seriously, is there a valid reason for which loliqo'tes are not playable yet?

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did anybody else check behind her? there is also a Miqo'te child in Revanant's Toll. does anybody else find it odd that they have no tail showing? o.o

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Originally Posted by Wildsprite

did anybody else check behind her? there is also a Miqo'te child in Revanant's Toll. does anybody else find it odd that they have no tail showing? o.o

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they have a tail. its a little stub

Hopefully they add more child versions of each race

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Originally Posted by Nestama

It's not that it will happen, it's that it can. Anyway, I find it incredibly stupid to picture multiple kids being the hero (and insulting to storyline characters playing the antagonist role... hell, even protagonists). I feel it's better to leave them as NPC's only and leave the heroic/stressful work to the adults (this including 18 year old teenagers).

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they were proving a point that kids can be heroes because someone said they don't work in games or die which isn't true. here have another.

http://lparchive.org/Phantasy-Star-4...-Star-4277.jpg

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Originally Posted by DracotheDragon

i am terrorfied to question why your mind aims straight for that,

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Because they are being realistic, the world is a vampire mis amigos, and while we see a cute harmless character model, someone out there will /em some disgusting stuff if this character model existed and I'd rather avoid that and the confrontation I know I'd get embroiled into if I saw it.

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

LMAO
ROFLMAO

Seriously, I couldn't stop laughing for a good minute there. My wife was wondering what was going on.

"Role-playing is not a feature of this game and is not supported"... Are you for real? Luckily, it appears you've hit your post limit for the day, so we won't have to suffer your irrationality for a little while at least.

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I also look forward to him/her surpassing his post limit for the day. Equivalent to the joy on Fred's face when the whistle blows in the opening scene from flintstones.

This society we live in makes me sad... Instead of beating the disease and trying fight it so we get get more options and a more diverse world, we accept it and do our best to ignore it...

Limiting ourselves because of other people's bad intentions, while at the same time pretending we're defending a cause when in reality we're just trying to shove the disease into a hole.

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Originally Posted by Necato

She doesn't appear to everyone though. (Probably a quest to do ?...) I was talking to the NPC next to her when a player asked me if I could move a little so they can screenshot her... Never saw her on my screen, I was photobombing without knowing it XD

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Do the Children Doma Adventurers Guild quest in Mor'dhona. (Daycare!)

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Originally Posted by Zeonx

they were proving a point that kids can be heroes because someone said they don't work in games or die which isn't true. here have another.

http://lparchive.org/Phantasy-Star-4...-Star-4277.jpg

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Well, I was just crushed as I got ready to ask if that was Shining Force as I didn't recall that unit, but I see it says phantasy star in the link....sad me. lol

I am kinda shocked this got revived (and not locked with all the arguing) but for the most part she is random and usually at night, best bet is if you dont see her wait till about Sunset or just after then go into Idyllshire.

Wasn't there a dev response to this?

I can understand completely children being unplayable.

However, in many FF games teenagers are. Teenagers should be able to be played.

And before anyone says something like: Teenagers can't be heroes! Why?

We have Lalafell.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

Wasn't there a dev response to this?

I can understand completely children being unplayable.

However, in many FF games teenagers are. Teenagers should be able to be played.

And before anyone says something like: Teenagers can't be heroes! Why?

We have Lalafell.

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I think the response was "lalafells heads are too big to be considered children" but that is without hunting through 32 pages. xD

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Originally Posted by AlphaFox

I think the response was "lalafells heads are too big to be considered children" but that is without hunting through 32 pages. xD

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Yeah, but it was something with Halfbreed Miqo'te and Lalafells.

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Originally Posted by ThinkPInk

Is cuter the new term for childlike? Call it what it is. Hopefully this will never be implemented.

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Technically speaking. Yes Childlike qualities are always Cute.. thats where the visuals comes from. Look up a cute widdle hammer and compare it to a human baby. They'd both have rounded and pudgy features as well as short in stature usually.

Didn't Yoshi said that was not a child? What about cross-lalafell race? I've seen a super cute lalafell-like child with roegadyn hair/nose on the ending of Heavensward...

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Originally Posted by Fevelle

Didn't Yoshi said that was not a child? What about cross-lalafell race? I've seen a super cute lalafell-like child with roegadyn hair/nose on the ending of Heavensward...

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That was what I thought but I can't find where he said it..

I swear he said this picture was actually a "Half Lalafell, Half Miqo'te."

I was fairly certain that during the lore panel at one of the conventions, MCKF confirmed children to be appearing in the expansion.
So I don't think they're halflings.