Ungendered sit poses, please?

I certainly hope people who are fighting tooth and nail in the '' let me hide people's glamours '' thread and supporting such a feature aren't in here being against this suggestions, because after all, this won't affect you in any way.

Overall I wouldn't mind this, but I think it is overall a positive thing that different races and genders have uniqueness to them outside of just appearance. If you seek to play a female character with more neutral emotes, that already exists in race+gender combinations that get played the least among female characters. But nevertheless, I don't really have any reasonable arguments against this suggestion beyond preserving uniqueness and that some races and genders get played even less as one of their main appeal can be potentially implemented for the most popular race+gender combinations.

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Originally Posted by Tehmon

I certainly hope people who are fighting tooth and nail in the '' let me hide people's glamours '' thread and supporting such a feature aren't in here being against this suggestions, because after all, this won't affect you in any way.

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I certainly hope someone isn't conflating two seperate situations and understands that just because someone can be against removing gender/role/race restrictions from items doesn't mean they are against additional items for those genders/roles/races that are still unique. Or the fact that it would affect everyone because it would be applied to everyone, but I'm sure there's no one here trying to do that or anything.

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Originally Posted by Joven

I certainly hope someone isn't conflating two seperate situations and understands that just because someone can be against removing gender/role/race restrictions from items doesn't mean they are against additional items for those genders/roles/races that are still unique. Or the fact that it would affect everyone because it would be applied to everyone, but I'm sure there's no one here trying to do that or anything.

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It's an option that you wouldn't need to apply to yourself, even if it's available to you.

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Originally Posted by VerdeLuck

Especially when changing your charcter costs real money or a couple hundred hour grind to make a new one, it feels terrible to get stranded on one that just straight up has less.

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I propose a solution then, give everyone access to everything.

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Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer

It's a request to get rid of the uniqueness we already have for uniqness you personally want.

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If that is the case, then the request to unlock content is still a request for uniqueness. What it isn't is asking to get rid of options that we already have. Roes would still have their emotes if they were available to Miqote.

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Roe emotes should stay roe emotes, same for every other race. Same for genders to. Thats a big part of what makes them unique. If I want male emotes I'll play a male character.
(Also where in the current game does everyone look like robots exactly?)

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In a game with only 5 or so idle poses per character that are arbitrarily tied to body type, you don't have to look very hard to find repetition. That's the problem with limiting things to Roes or Hyurs, or whatever and what leads to instances where the same idle pose stands out because a dozen people are using it as if they were robots.

Clearly not everyone feels the same way on emotes and poses, but I think I made it clear that the point isn't to take away uniqueness.

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This isn't real life.

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It's certainly inspired by real life in a number of ways. All player characters are essentially human or have human traits, and the game attempts to capture the variety seen in people physically in the character creator. All I want is the same to go for personalty. I don't know how you design your own characters but I tend to put a little bit of me into them. In a lot of cases I play the most "normal" race in a game, but in the case of FF14 the mannerisms were so far off I've felt better represented by characters with cat ears and a tail for instance.

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It's a game with visions in place from people in a whole other country n culture. Yall need to understand this. I'd love to have a female version of Snows outfit but I'm not gonna waste my time hoping or asking for it as it's a male outfit. I can accept this and move on to the 100s of other things I can wear. Maybe I'm just old school

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You make it sound like asking for what you want is a bad thing. The forum exists partially to receive feedback and apply it to the game. What gave us Viera? Asking. What gave us more variety in outfits? Asking. What gave us more glam plates and dresser space? Asking. Where would we be without making requests? Probably a much worse iteration of FF14.

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Originally Posted by Nyxs

This is what ppl are like now. So not surprising. “Whaaaa everything be neutral or we cry and riot!”

People need to stop this cringe behaviour. We do not need to conform to their ideals of neutrality and including everyone for everything. People need to stop pushing it on people.

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I don't know why you want to make this political. People ask for something they want, a completely reasonable act, and then there are comments like yours that have to paint it as a conspiracy theory or something. I don't know what ideals you're talking about or who we're conforming to. I just want to enjoy my video game.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

This isn't about having more options, this is about you thinking you have some sort of entitlement to having access to everything because you're a paying subscriber somehow grants you that privilege.

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Why is it that asking for something is conflated with demanding to have it? Where is the entitlement exactly in trying to improve something you enjoy? Why is there a limit to what we can ask for?

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Originally Posted by Tehmon

It's an option that you wouldn't need to apply to yourself, even if it's available to you.

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With the way Cpose is you can't just select the pose you want. You have to cycle through each pose before you get to the one you want which means you would have to use that pose at some point whether you wanted to or not.

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Originally Posted by Joven

With the way Cpose is you can't just select the pose you want. You have to cycle through each pose before you get to the one you want which means you would have to use that pose at some point whether you wanted to or not.

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Oh my god. Typing /cpose would take a few seconds.

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Originally Posted by Tehmon

Oh my god. Typing /cpose would take a few seconds.

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And me having your glamour turned off wouldn't affect you. What's your point?

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Originally Posted by Joven

And me having your glamour turned off wouldn't affect you. What's your point?

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I WAS NEVER AGAINST THAT OPTION! I merely said that there are arguments to be made from both sides.

My point is that the entire '' it won't affect you '' argument is very convenient when it's a feature you want, but oh my does that argument not apply when it's a feature you for some reason disapprove of. Afterwards it's definitely a feature that actually does affect the player in some arbitrary reason you've decided and thus cannot be implemented. And on that note, you just come off as a troll and/or dishonest.

But if '' I might have to use this emote for 2 second as I type /cpose '' is actually a thing that thoroughly would affect you and your '' self-expression '' and that's the hill you are willing to die on, that's fine.

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Originally Posted by Tehmon

I WAS NEVER AGAINST THAT OPTION! I merely said that there are arguments to be made from both sides.

My point is that the entire '' it won't affect you '' argument is very convenient when it's a feature you want, but oh my does that argument not apply when it's a feature you for some reason disapprove of. Afterwards it's definitely a feature that actually does affect the player in some arbitrary reason you've decided and thus cannot be implemented. And on that note, you just come off as a troll and/or dishonest.

But if '' I might have to use this emote for 2 second as I type /cpose '' is actually a thing that thoroughly would affect you and your '' self-expression '' and that's the hill you are willing to die on, that's fine.

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Because one (hide glam) is a feature that would only affect and be visible those who choose to use it while the other (poses) would be applied across the board and as such will be actively visible for those who wish not to use it, regardless if it's 2 seconds or 20 minutes.

And again, I'm not against more options, just the idea that every emote, pose, what have you has to or needs to be applied to every race/gender.

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Originally Posted by PyurBlue

I don't know why you want to make this political. People ask for something they want, a completely reasonable act, and then there are comments like yours that have to paint it as a conspiracy theory or something. I don't know what ideals you're talking about or who we're conforming to. I just want to enjoy my video game.

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It's REAL funny how they keep coming into these threads with CLEAR political motivations, telling folks their non gender confirming characters look "bad" and are an"eyesore" and anybody who has no problem with it is "cringe". Then they turn around and claim it's actually everybody else who is echoing politics where they don't belong. Why? In their mind a male character EXISTING in a dress = political. A female EXISTING and using a masculine sit pose = Political. Pure, unfettered projection.