Yoshi-P: Flippant dismissal of player criticism is a poor look for a lead developer.

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Originally Posted by Aluja89

You know we have the Grand Masters from the church of Yoshida here when even the mainsub on reddit call this a band aid on a gaping gunshot wound.

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What does this have to do with anything?
You can still think that it's not enough and that we need a bigger overhaul, and also still acknowledge that the comment was completely harmless and made in jest.

Not everyone who disagrees with your outrage or the extent to which you're outraged is a '' Yoshida worshipper ''.
I think Yoshi-P even agrees with it too and would like the system to be better.
Just because a problem exists doesn't mean that we should just read the most obnoxiously awful intent into every word that comes out Yoshi-P's mouth.

If anything it only makes it less likely people will take you seriously when you talk about the problems.

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

You must have never actually read those ‘discussions’ yourself. And if so, I don’t blame you for it either. There are plenty of points presented for years in the healer sub-forum and look what’s devs reactions?

”We really don’t know what to do with healers.” (paraphrasing)

And yet they claimed they read the forum feedback. :rolleyes: How much more dismissive & ignorant they can get now? Do this enough times, and this is what we get: a crowd of jaded healers.

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Tbh I think the Healer issue is a bit more complex than just '' more DPS buttons '', I think it'd require a larger overhaul to solve.
Up the incoming damage drastically especially.
I am hoping that the Savage Dungeons may offer better content for Healers, it makes sense that there would be more consistent incoming damage that requires more healing than single boss Savage fights.

But yeah I don't think that just giving Healers a few extra buttons would actually solve the problem, it'd only solve the monotony of the DPS rotation.
Not the monotony of not having enough actual healing to do, that's an issue with the content and numbers rather than Healers tools.

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Originally Posted by Denji

I repeat: People thought the 2b hrothgar haircut was a joke (even translators) and look where that got us.

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Yes I understand with the haircut. Made me question the dev’s sanity. What I meant was reading the line and the exaggerated “whine” to the last word in the sentence, had me smile as yes, we as a community never seem satisfied. Hence a joke/joking manner.

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Originally Posted by Kolsykol

Tbh I think the Healer issue is a bit more complex than just '' more DPS buttons '', I think it'd require a larger overhaul to solve[…]

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Oh totally. At this point we’re just scraping around for the leftover cookies crumb, if that makes any sense at all.

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Originally Posted by Shenlao

So are you really going to try to argue that the absolute majority of post in those threads isn't completely toxic nonsense of players unnecessarily blaming whatever part of the player demographic they deem to be a danger to their enjoyment while some of them take turns taking shots at the developers? Like I'm like so insanely confident in winning a quote list on how incredibly awful people are in those threads easily. So before you try to tell me I haven't read it maybe check yourself again. And then we have your post here what are you trying to argue? That people are justified being absolute assholes to each other and to the devs just cause they aren't getting what they want? Cause that's what your post looks like and I'm like not on the same page with that.

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I never said nor imply that they’re toxic-free. I’m just adding one potential reason why we’re seeing them from first place. They’re trying to be heard & addressed, and will continue to do so, getting ever louder.

does one really need to keep 3000+ pieces of gear on the OFF CHANCE they MIGHT want it in a glam? good lord stop hoarding

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

does one really need to keep 3000+ pieces of gear on the OFF CHANCE they MIGHT want it in a glam? good lord stop hoarding

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Basically every other MMO with a glamour system has unlimited storage, so yes.

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

does one really need to keep 3000+ pieces of gear on the OFF CHANCE they MIGHT want it in a glam? good lord stop hoarding

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A bit odd complaining about hording in a game where they sell you retainers with more bank slots... lol

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Originally Posted by Jandor

Seems like they know the system isn't great and that this is essentially just sticking a plaster on it. I think it looks pretty good that they can acknowledge and joke about their own shortcomings.

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Makes me feel more like they're trying to brush it under the rug. By putting it out there that they know and putting it out there through a joke they always have that excuse of, "Yes, we acknowledged it, but no you can't take our acknowledgement seriously, we were just joking."

Why can't we just be up front with each other? It leaves no risk for miscommunication and regardless of whether the answer makes everyone happy or not, most people will be somewhat understanding if everything is explained thoroughly along with the answer given. People appreciate honest and upfront communication, and regardless of what you think of the forums, I think the rest of the playerbase is extremely understanding.

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

Makes me feel more like they're trying to brush it under the rug. By putting it out there that they know and putting it out there through a joke they always have that excuse of, "Yes, we acknowledged it, but no you can't take our acknowledgement seriously, we were just joking."

Why can't we just be up front with each other? It leaves no risk for miscommunication and regardless of whether the answer makes everyone happy or not, most people will be somewhat understanding if everything is explained thoroughly along with the answer given. People appreciate honest and upfront communication, and regardless of what you think of the forums, I think the rest of the playerbase is extremely understanding.

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Thing is they've already been open and honest about this stuff. Issue I'd that's not good enough for some people. I want content over an improved (not fixed cause it isnt broken) glamour dresser. Most folks wear the same stuff anyways. It's not uncommon to address something in a joking manner. It keeps things light hearted. If folks are offended or feel the devs are shrugging it off thats their own bit to sort out. Idk what it is but fun n jokes just don't land well in these particular forums and I've no idea why

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

does one really need to keep 3000+ pieces of gear on the OFF CHANCE they MIGHT want it in a glam? good lord stop hoarding

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But those precious warg, imperial, and paglth'an gear... It's so ridiculously annoying to farm them :(

Unless they have other reskin as crafted gear, I can just throw them.

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Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer

Thing is they've already been open and honest about this stuff. Issue I'd that's not good enough for some people. I want content over an improved (not fixed cause it isnt broken) glamour dresser. Most folks wear the same stuff anyways. It's not uncommon to address something in a joking manner. It keeps things light hearted. If folks are offended or feel the devs are shrugging it off thats their own bit to sort out. Idk what it is but fun n jokes just don't land well in these particular forums and I've no idea why

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Mostly because joking at an unhappy, displeased person never works out.