Reimbursement for Lost Tomes due to Wrongful use of Kick

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Originally Posted by Alklios

This isn't the thread to to discuss my takeaway from anecdotes about behaviors, if I do that it will be to PMs to better explain situations. Otherwise it's considered derailing from topic of thread title. Yes, a GM decides misbehavior. It is why I'm not bothering posting any screenshots of former abuse. Validation from players will do nothing for me or this thread.

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This forum doesn’t have a direct messaging feature.

That said, you have to understand why you are getting the backlash you are: people don’t trust your story, and that may not matter to you—but you opened this post with it as the primary reason for your proposal. When you start a topic with something like that, and then refuse to clarify, people will be less keen to listen to you. Especially since the only other “evidence” for backing up this suggestion are more anecdotes, and especially when it’s not uncommon for these “abuses” to turn out to not be such on this particular platform. People are allowed to be skeptical of you, and you haven’t done anything to alleviate the skepticism. You’ve only fueled it by dodging the questions.

You brought up your own kick in the opening post. It’s technically not off-topic for people to address the point you’ve reiterated multiple times.

you know the more you try to defend what happened and more you believe you deserve to be compensated for what you did in the duty.

the more people here are not going to care, nor will feel like you deserve anything and feel entitled to anything. continue doing what you do in your life, stop arguing this topic because im starting to feel sorry for you that you care this much about it.

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Originally Posted by Alklios

To those that spoke you can just simply re-q, consider the common situation I already detailed: DPS in queue for near close to half hour for an alliance raid that is new in 5.X patch.

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Originally Posted by Lambdafish

Tomestones aren't hard to get, do a hunt train or some maps to supplement your roulettes, and you will see how easy tomes are to get.

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I'll reiterate...

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Originally Posted by Yukumazi

you know the more you try to defend what happened and more you believe you deserve to be compensated for what you did in the duty.

the more people here are not going to care, nor will feel like you deserve anything and feel entitled to anything. continue doing what you do in your life, stop arguing this topic because im starting to feel sorry for you that you care this much about it.

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So, I'm not certain why people here are so obsessed with having me seek their approval or disapproval for an event. I honestly don't need your validation or anyone's, the point of a thread is to not play a thumbs'up game of approval. It's suggesting a point of consideration for the Dev team and it's up to -you- the poster to discuss or leave it dry. If you don't care how your dollar is used, you don't have to respond. Reimbursement for abuse is not an alien concept.
It's making me question what the priority of players here is just as the GM communicating with me was so adamant that justice will be served to the offender mentioned about 4 times, when I just want my denied currency reimbursed. Simple capitalism.

People being banned is irrelevant to this thread. People being at fault myself or another is irrelevant. The GM decides that, NOT YOU. Please stop derailing my thread.

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Originally Posted by Lambdafish

I'll reiterate...

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I'll reiterate. You don't get alliance raids coins for hunt trains and roulettes as is spelled out in the sentence after. Tomestones aren't the only currency that can be taken away. Alliance raid coins and even gear drops. A problem since the dawn of LFG is premades booting players before an upcoming desired drop, for example. Another example that requires some coverage.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

This forum doesn’t have a direct messaging feature.

That said, you have to understand why you are getting the backlash you are: people don’t trust your story, and that may not matter to you—but you opened this post with it as the primary reason for your proposal. When you start a topic with something like that, and then refuse to clarify, people will be less keen to listen to you. Especially since the only other “evidence” for backing up this suggestion are more anecdotes, and especially when it’s not uncommon for these “abuses” to turn out to not be such on this particular platform. People are allowed to be skeptical of you, and you haven’t done anything to alleviate the skepticism. You’ve only fueled it by dodging the questions.

You brought up your own kick in the opening post. It’s technically not off-topic for people to address the point you’ve reiterated multiple times.

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Whether or not -I- specifically deserved a kick is irrelevant to reimbursement needed for a rampant problem. Even if I were justified to be kicked 9 out of 10 times, the other one needs coverage and it's not just me but thousands of players suffering that a week. We need some coverage for toxic PvE that's weeded out my friend's list real thin. That's why I am suggesting this and only because of GM prompting.

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Originally Posted by Alklios

So, I'm not certain why people here are so obsessed with having me seek their approval or disapproval for an event. I honestly don't need your validation or anyone's, the point of a thread is to not play a thumbs'up game of approval. It's suggesting a point of consideration for the Dev team and it's up to -you- the poster to discuss or leave it dry. If you don't care how your dollar is used, you don't have to respond. Reimbursement for abuse is not an alien concept.
It's making me question what the priority of players here is just as the GM communicating with me was so adamant that justice will be served to the offender mentioned about 4 times, when I just want my denied currency reimbursed. Simple capitalism.

People being banned is irrelevant to this thread. People being at fault myself or another is irrelevant. The GM decides that, NOT YOU. Please stop derailing my thread.

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Your thread is about you being kicked from a duty and demanding compensation. when most of the party is against your decision and you disagree with the party when they party wants sources and reasons of what happened to justify why you deserve compensation despite knowing you don't deserve one.

Again, you don't deserve to be reimbursed. move on start fighting a battle you never had a chance to even participate in.

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Originally Posted by Yukumazi

Your thread is about you being kicked from a duty and demanding compensation. when most of the party is against your decision and you disagree with the party when they party wants sources and reasons of what happened to justify why you deserve compensation despite knowing you don't deserve one.

Again, you don't deserve to be reimbursed. move on start fighting a battle you never had a chance to even participate in.

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The 'party' made it about trying to see if I deserve or not the reimbursement when this thread is voiced to give a resolution to everyone suffering from trolls.
The 'party's' judgments means nothing to me as that is a GM's decision. Your judgment will not help me. It won't sway a GM or developer's decision.
You, the player, have no power to determine guilt or innocence so no consideration has been given to feed the pettiness that is attempting to put me on trial.
I'm speaking on universals, you and 'party' are speaking on individuals. Me. Stop making it about. Me.

All I care about is to hear the pros or cons of having a system, and that's as little as a fourth of the content posted here. Now I am being blamed

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Originally Posted by Alklios

I'll reiterate. You don't get alliance raids coins for hunt trains and roulettes as is spelled out in the sentence after. Tomestones aren't the only currency that can be taken away. Alliance raid coins and even gear drops. A problem since the dawn of LFG is premades booting players before an upcoming desired drop, for example. Another example that requires some coverage.

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You dont lose gear that you won the lot for when youre kicked lmao. The coin is a completion reward. You no kill last boss? Then you no get completion reward.

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Originally Posted by Alklios

The 'party' made it about trying to see if I deserve or not the reimbursement when this thread is voiced to give a resolution to everyone suffering from trolls.
The 'party's' judgments means nothing to me as that is a GM's decision. Your judgment will not help me. It won't sway a GM or developer's decision.
You, the player, have no power to determine guilt or innocence so no consideration has been given to feed the pettiness that is attempting to put me on trial.
I'm speaking on universals, you and 'party' are speaking on individuals. Me. Stop making it about. Me.

All I care about is to hear the pros or cons of having a system, and that's as little as a fourth of the content posted here. Now I am being blamed

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dude your original post is literally you complaining about how you got kicked, how crystal DC is terrible and how you demand to be compensated for the effort you put into the dungeon. now you want to turn this topic around on how the system is being used? please stop playing the victim and using that as a scapegoat. you suddenly are trying to turn it into a topic on GMs and it's rules when you realized how everyone is against your decisions, your complaint. and your lack of sources/explanation of the scenario when everyone was spitting facts at you.

this entire thread is literally about YOU because you made it about YOU. not about the GMs and their system.